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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,168
    interesting that old kyle knows nothing about different types of bullets. personally i think he is full of shit. he said "a bullet is a bullet". i do not know anything about guns but i know that hollow points are designed to do more damage.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,981
    This trial is crazy. That fucking judge seems to be a Rittenhouse cheerleader.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    Hopefully, at least, this will convince police departments that he's not "alpha" enough to be a cop.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    interesting that old kyle knows nothing about different types of bullets. personally i think he is full of shit. he said "a bullet is a bullet". i do not know anything about guns but i know that hollow points are designed to do more damage.

    Of course he's full of shit: 

    "Outside school, Rittenhouse participated in cadet programs with both the Antioch Fire Department and the Grayslake Police Department, according to department newsletters. The police initiative offers participants from ages 14 to 21 “the opportunity to explore a career in law enforcement” through ride-alongs with officers on patrol and firearms training, according to since-deleted pages on its website."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/27/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-protests/



    There seems to be a pretty direct line from 'police training' to 'oops I murdered someone'
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793

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    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
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    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    A “fiery but peaceful protest” to be exact. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

    Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

    I know this.  Because he shot people.

    If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

    It's that simple.
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    CM189191 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

    Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

    I know this.  Because he shot people.

    If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

    It's that simple.
    When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

    You hope to never have to use it.
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    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
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    I'm giving the kid the benefit of the doubt.  he should get nailed for transferring a firearm though.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,832
    CM189191 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

    Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

    I know this.  Because he shot people.

    If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

    It's that simple.
    When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

    You hope to never have to use it.
      
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,513
    The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
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    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Because that’s what “responsible” gun owners do with their guns, scare and intimidate people. Seems reasonable. And why not?

    If you really believe that people don’t buy guns for the intention of killing people then I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
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    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

    Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

    I know this.  Because he shot people.

    If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

    It's that simple.
    When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

    You hope to never have to use it.
      
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/10/27/charlie-kirk-denounces-violence-mh-orig.cnn

    Is this where I'm supposed to show the people that bought them that didn't want to shoot people?

    Painting everyone with one brush.  I expected more from you.
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    The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
    Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
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    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Because that’s what “responsible” gun owners do with their guns, scare and intimidate people. Seems reasonable. And why not?

    If you really believe that people don’t buy guns for the intention of killing people then I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starting_pistol

    Same planet...
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,981
    And....you can't use a weapon to defend property. Why was he there? To keep people from looting...right?
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    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Because that’s what “responsible” gun owners do with their guns, scare and intimidate people. Seems reasonable. And why not?

    If you really believe that people don’t buy guns for the intention of killing people then I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starting_pistol

    Same planet...
    Yea, because buying a starters pistol is the same as buying a fully functional firearm. What planet you on bro?
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,040
    edited November 2021
    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Because that’s what “responsible” gun owners do with their guns, scare and intimidate people. Seems reasonable. And why not?

    If you really believe that people don’t buy guns for the intention of killing people then I don’t know what planet you’re living on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starting_pistol

    Same planet...
    Yea, because buying a starters pistol is the same as buying a fully functional firearm. What planet you on bro?
    I would imagine you've never done skeet or sporting clays then?
    Edit: Bro...
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    A “fiery but peaceful protest” to be exact. 
    my point remains
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,513
    The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
    Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
    It was the police's responsibility to handle. Even if they were not effective, he and others like him didn't have that responsibility and shouldn't have been there. 
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    CM189191 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

    Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

    I know this.  Because he shot people.

    If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

    It's that simple.
    When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

    You hope to never have to use it.
    Did you purposefully enter into confrontational situations just to test that your intentions were pure?  As a former gun owner and hunter, I would never take a gun into hostile territory looking to provoke others and expect that I should be free from harm in such a situation.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Scare people in what way, that he might use deadly force against them.  Seems reasonable, go to a town that isnt in your state with a firearm to scare people that are protesting against something you don't agree with.  Sure I'm sure the thought of actually using the gun never in 1000 years crossed his mind. Cmon Man!
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    The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
    Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
    It was the police's responsibility to handle. Even if they were not effective, he and others like him didn't have that responsibility and shouldn't have been there. 
    I don't disagree with that.

    Again, none of it happens if police are allowed to do their jobs.

    It's a shitty catch 22.  It doesn't have a right answer that will appease everyone.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    The bottom line is that if he doesn't transport a firearm into another State to provide "assistance" to law enforcement during a protest, none of this happens. He behaved recklessly and dangerously and deserves the punishment that will hopefully come from it.
    Go one step further to the bottom line and if the police would have shut down the protestors then none of this would have happened in the first place...
    It was the police's responsibility to handle. Even if they were not effective, he and others like him didn't have that responsibility and shouldn't have been there. 
    I don't disagree with that.

    Again, none of it happens if police are allowed to do their jobs.

    It's a shitty catch 22.  It doesn't have a right answer that will appease everyone.
    I don't see that the police weren't allowed to do their jobs, more or less that they were overwhelmed.  The lengths that would have to be gone to to get crowds that large into shape would be very authoritarian.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    I absolutely think he wanted to shoot people.
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

    You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...
    It's like nobody here has ever taken a gun out into the streets of a town... out of their own state... during a contentious social uprising/protest... just minding their own business... not looking for trouble and had to kill someone before...damn elites.
    I would venture to guess that he brought it for protection yes, and to hopefully scare people.

    Why people think that guns are bought with the intentions of killing people is like saying all liberals hate guns... Oh wait...
    Scare people in what way, that he might use deadly force against them.  Seems reasonable, go to a town that isnt in your state with a firearm to scare people that are protesting against something you don't agree with.  Sure I'm sure the thought of actually using the gun never in 1000 years crossed his mind. Cmon Man!
    Intimidation would be my first thought, but that is just me.  You see a security guard you think twice about stealing I would imagine?

    If he did intend on harming someone then he got his wish and I can guarantee it is not how he thought it would end.
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