George Floyd Protests

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Of course not...that just zero hedge

I didn't know Zerohedge was an Onion type of site.  I just googled it and it says "far right libertarian leaning"  I didn't think the two had that much in common but I guess they do...

yeah it's Alex Jonesian

Indifference

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Of course not...that just zero hedge

I didn't know Zerohedge was an Onion type of site.  I just googled it and it says "far right libertarian leaning"  I didn't think the two had that much in common but I guess they do...

yeah it's Alex Jonesian

So not true. More accurate better info then cnn/msnbc

Gern Blansten

Indifference said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Of course not...that just zero hedge

I didn't know Zerohedge was an Onion type of site.  I just googled it and it says "far right libertarian leaning"  I didn't think the two had that much in common but I guess they do...

yeah it's Alex Jonesian

So not true. More accurate better info then cnn/msnbc

lol...good one

Indifference

Gern Blansten said:

Indifference said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Of course not...that just zero hedge

I didn't know Zerohedge was an Onion type of site.  I just googled it and it says "far right libertarian leaning"  I didn't think the two had that much in common but I guess they do...

yeah it's Alex Jonesian

So not true. More accurate better info then cnn/msnbc

lol...good one

Truth hurts.

Gern Blansten

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Gern Blansten

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-thursday/index.html

A juror was dismissed in Kyle Rittenhouse's homicide trial Thursday morning after he told a joke to a deputy earlier this week about the police shooting of Jacob Blake.

The incident occurred when a male juror made a joke about the shooting while being escorted to his car, Judge Bruce Schroeder said.

"I'm going to summarize what I remember, what I was told," Schroeder said. "He was telling a joke ... he told the officer ... he made a reference about telling a joke about 'Why did it take seven shots to shoot Jacob Blake,' something to that effect."

Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger took particular issue with the incident.

"The joke is in bad taste, there are a plethora of bad jokes out there with everything to do with all this, this is one of them. But I think the rest of this joke, as it were, suggests some sort of racial bias which I think comes into play," he said.

Indifference

In the words of robin Williams it’s ok. Once he released which is due justice take a deep breath and tAke a walk outside.

OnWis97

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Indifference

I could never be so judgemental.  But ok.

Gern Blansten

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

The police saw him carrying that rifle and didn't stop to question.  That's insane

mickeyrat

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

The police saw him carrying that rifle and didn't stop to question.  That's insane

young white male. its ok.

static111

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

The police saw him carrying that rifle and didn't stop to question.  That's insane

young white male. its ok.

You are so "woke" Mickey...*s*

mickeyrat

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

The police saw him carrying that rifle and didn't stop to question.  That's insane

young white male. its ok.

You are so "woke" Mickey...*s*

yeah. still awake. about to go to sleep though.... I work nights.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

The thing that bugs me isn't his age or going across the state line with a gun (the only things likely to get him into trouble) because this could have been a local adult. It's the "pre-emptive self-defense" element of it that really concerns me. It really looks like he went there hoping to shoot someone; looking for an excuse. You can make an argument about self-defense, but I really hope this doesn't become a right-wing trend; go into protests with a gun and just wait until someone takes a step your direction and shoot them.

The worst part? He's likely to be a cop some day. Yeah, he totally strikes me as a guy that's going to be all about protecting and serving and not at all interested in the power and the ability to kill a few people.

Agreed... A result of insane gun laws 

It's not insane gun laws.  He is 17 and is not allowed to own that rifle.  He took it across state lines which is another no no.  He won't get murder but the book will be thrown at him for the rifle violation.

The police saw him carrying that rifle and didn't stop to question.  That's insane

I won't argue that.  That is a case of sociology majors to explore.

gimmesometruth27

the defense just called rittenhouse to testify. he is on the stand right now.

Ledbetterman10

He has an annoying voice. 

From what I’ve seen of the trial, the prosecution isn’t doing a good job of poking holes through his self-defense defense. He’ll probably be acquitted. 

Gern Blansten

Ledbetterman10 said:

He has an annoying voice. 

From what I’ve seen of the trial, the prosecution isn’t doing a good job of poking holes through his self-defense defense. He’ll probably be acquitted. 

It's a tough one. I can't say that I believe he wasn't defending himself. 

The overall problem is that he was allowed to be there in the first place and there are no consequences for that.

gimmesometruth27

white privilege is getting in to out-of-state college just months after killing 2 people.

Ledbetterman10

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

He has an annoying voice. 

From what I’ve seen of the trial, the prosecution isn’t doing a good job of poking holes through his self-defense defense. He’ll probably be acquitted. 

It's a tough one. I can't say that I believe he wasn't defending himself. 

The overall problem is that he was allowed to be there in the first place and there are no consequences for that.

He’s charged with some gun crimes I believe that will likely get a conviction. But I doubt the homicides will. 

Ledbetterman10

That crying fit was hilarious. Rarely do you see a meme created live like that. 

Gern Blansten

To me this is just another case that will eventually lead to stricter gun control. Good guys with guns are too hard to define. 

Open carry is absolute bullshit and at some point we will figure that out after more innocent people die.

tbergs

Indifference said:

I could never be so judgemental.  But ok.

What's there to be judgmental about? It's all out in the open. All you have to do is look at the choices and actions he took the night that the shooting occurred. If you don't see a problem with him, or anyone else, doing what they did, then I guess we'll never agree. People that open carry or show up to "support" the police with their own firearm have some emotional and/or physical trauma they never worked through, which probably has led to a psychological disorder making them believe their actions are justified.

I would say it is obvious this kid will never be a cop, but our world doesn't seem to value verbal de-escalation or non-confrontation as much as the right to shoot to kill.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

To me this is just another case that will eventually lead to stricter gun control. Good guys with guns are too hard to define. 

Open carry is absolute bullshit and at some point we will figure that out after more innocent people die.

I have never heard of a rifle being used as "open carry".  if it is then I would agree its bullshit.

tempo_n_groove

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

To me this is just another case that will eventually lead to stricter gun control. Good guys with guns are too hard to define. 

Open carry is absolute bullshit and at some point we will figure that out after more innocent people die.

I have never heard of a rifle being used as "open carry".  if it is then I would agree its bullshit.

Well it is something.  Only 7 states restrict the Open Carry of rifles.  

Gern Blansten

It's just absolute bullshit that the police stand by while vigilante's are running around in front of them with AR-15s.  I realize they were likely understaffed and overwhelmed but it just shouldn't be acceptable.

But again....after many more people die we will figure it out

Merkin Baller

tbergs said:

Indifference said:

I could never be so judgemental.  But ok.

What's there to be judgmental about? It's all out in the open. All you have to do is look at the choices and actions he took the night that the shooting occurred. If you don't see a problem with him, or anyone else, doing what they did, then I guess we'll never agree. People that open carry or show up to "support" the police with their own firearm have some emotional and/or physical trauma they never worked through, which probably has led to a psychological disorder making them believe their actions are justified.

I would say it is obvious this kid will never be a cop, but our world doesn't seem to value verbal de-escalation or non-confrontation as much as the right to shoot to kill.

Yup. 

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

It's just absolute bullshit that the police stand by while vigilante's are running around in front of them with AR-15s.  I realize they were likely understaffed and overwhelmed but it just shouldn't be acceptable.

But again....after many more people die we will figure it out

The counter goes to why did the police watch people cause destruction then...

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

It's just absolute bullshit that the police stand by while vigilante's are running around in front of them with AR-15s.  I realize they were likely understaffed and overwhelmed but it just shouldn't be acceptable.

But again....after many more people die we will figure it out

The counter goes to why did the police watch people cause destruction then...

There was still destruction right?  And people died.