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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    People's brains have been so poisoned by partisan punditry that it's a "trap" to ask a Presidential candidate who's been credibly accused of sexual assault to address it
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    Journalism exists specifically to shine a light on stories like a Presidential candidate being accused of sexual assault
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,126
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    The only appropriate place Biden should address this directly is under oath with the opportunity to depose Tara and her "witnesses." I thought Tara wanted to be heard in a "fair and objective way?"
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Biden
    JW269453 said:
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    Why are Democrats are held to a higher standard than Republicans when it comes to this kind of stuff?
    There should be one standard, a human standard and political affiliation should have nothing to do with it.
    One guy has 20+ accusers, one guy has 1. I agree that obviously there is a human standard that we all need to live up to. Just seems outrageous that one party, who used to care about family values, doesn't give a shit about everything Trump is accused of yet acts holier than thou when discussing this alleged transgression against Biden. 

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    The only appropriate place Biden should address this directly is under oath with the opportunity to depose Tara and her "witnesses." I thought Tara wanted to be heard in a "fair and objective way?"
    Since when has the judicial system in the US been fair and objective?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    The only appropriate place Biden should address this directly is under oath with the opportunity to depose Tara and her "witnesses." I thought Tara wanted to be heard in a "fair and objective way?"

    Is that possible? Is there a statute of limitations?

    Ugh, it's going to be a long year.  I'm already burned out on "they only care when it's a Republican" coming from people who only care when it's a Democrat.  (Even if it is true to a degree). 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    The only appropriate place Biden should address this directly is under oath with the opportunity to depose Tara and her "witnesses." I thought Tara wanted to be heard in a "fair and objective way?"

    I don't think that would work out the way you think it would. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    It's both. He needs to be asked about this and, if he continues not to be, he should at least issue a statement personally (which I assume/hope would be a categorical denial).
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    No matter what question he is asked, we will hear it didn't go far enough. No matter what statement he makes, we will hear that is wasn't strong enough. His words will be parsed and hours of cable news will be filled. It's a losing battle either way, which is why it is such an effective trap.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    JimmyV said:
    No matter what question he is asked, we will hear it didn't go far enough. No matter what statement he makes, we will hear that is wasn't strong enough. His words will be parsed and hours of cable news will be filled. It's a losing battle either way, which is why it is such an effective trap.  
    Now you're torching a straw man
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    CNN out here laying traps


  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    No matter what question he is asked, we will hear it didn't go far enough. No matter what statement he makes, we will hear that is wasn't strong enough. His words will be parsed and hours of cable news will be filled. It's a losing battle either way, which is why it is such an effective trap.  
    Now you're torching a straw man
    No, I'm describing the reality of what will happen. It is exactly how news cycles work. You really think his issuing a statement or calling a press conference will make this go away? No chance. He would be pouring gasoline on a small fire.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    On a completely different note, goodness gracious


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,869
    edited April 2020
    Biden
    he should avoid talking about it at all costs for as long as possible.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    he should avoid talking about it at all costs for as long as possible.
    The crazy part is that this is even an option. He shouldn't have a choice. A reporter should have asked him by now.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    CNN out here laying traps


    CNN wanting video of Biden addressing the story proves my point. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    JimmyV said:
    pjl44 said:
    CNN out here laying traps


    CNN wanting video of Biden addressing the story proves my point. 
    Which point?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    pjl44 said:
    CNN out here laying traps


    CNN wanting video of Biden addressing the story proves my point. 
    Which point?
    That Biden addressing this will only make it cable news fodder and a bigger story. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,662
    I'm sitting this one out
    JimmyV said:
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    pjl44 said:
    CNN out here laying traps


    CNN wanting video of Biden addressing the story proves my point. 
    Which point?
    That Biden addressing this will only make it cable news fodder and a bigger story. 
    You think CNN has it out for Biden?

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