Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    same with the 60 minutes interview. and every journalist out there. every single time he brings up hunter they should be clapping back with the nepotism. is ivanka and jared qualified? not one iota. how about cozying up to china and then ivanka gets a shitload of patents approved in china right after? FFS is there any journalist out there that is prepared to actually ask him tough questions? i haven't seen it. if you actually have the guy one on one where he can't just move on, ask these goddamn questions. profiting off white house business at his properties. the list is endless, and it's all been verified. the media is complicit at every step of his rise to power and during. 

    how about defrauding kids with cancer with their charity and how they are banned from ever operating one ever again? jesus, where are the real journalists?

    peppering him with the same questions about masks for 5 minutes is useless. 
    I really don't understand how he wasn't removed by 25th amendment.  Rosenstein apparently tried to get the votes very early and couldn't do it.  I really thought the Mattis/Kelly/Tillerson crew was going to make it happen.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,090
    Biden

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    same with the 60 minutes interview. and every journalist out there. every single time he brings up hunter they should be clapping back with the nepotism. is ivanka and jared qualified? not one iota. how about cozying up to china and then ivanka gets a shitload of patents approved in china right after? FFS is there any journalist out there that is prepared to actually ask him tough questions? i haven't seen it. if you actually have the guy one on one where he can't just move on, ask these goddamn questions. profiting off white house business at his properties. the list is endless, and it's all been verified. the media is complicit at every step of his rise to power and during. 

    how about defrauding kids with cancer with their charity and how they are banned from ever operating one ever again? jesus, where are the real journalists?

    peppering him with the same questions about masks for 5 minutes is useless. 
    I really don't understand how he wasn't removed by 25th amendment.  Rosenstein apparently tried to get the votes very early and couldn't do it.  I really thought the Mattis/Kelly/Tillerson crew was going to make it happen.
    because the republicans who initially laughed at his candidacy turned into spineless shills that cared only about power and not about the country. they obviously didn't think it would come back to bite them in the ass, but with guys like lindsay "if we elect trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it" graham now fighting for their political lives, i say "fuck you and good riddance". 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    I mean you can watch it between now and the 25th. To think I could be at a Vote for Change-type show in South Philly right now, if not for a once-in-100-year global pandemic.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    look at your calendar
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    edited October 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Voted in person last Friday.  Took a whole of 10 minutes from the time I left my house to pressing the “cast ballot” button.  Easy Peesy!  
    if biden wins, i sincerely hope he enacts some type of election reform. not just the electoral college (if he can), but also presidential elections at the state level. these asshole republicans being allowed to basically suppress the vote and gerrymander their areas so they never lose is absurd. 
    The gerrymandering is a little absurd, I agree, but I don’t see the electoral college going away and I don’t think it should.  It may need some reform, but we are not a direct democracy and our union of states would not function too well in that environment in my opinion.

    one reform is proportional electoral votes....

    would mean a more national focus on more states than just a handful....
    Agree 100% with each area in a given State getting the portioned proper electoral votes.  Liberals would not like that. Note that while the house has more Democrats by number, by State as a group side more Republican 26-23-1

    So, yes. Every State should do it like Maine and Nebraska and parcel out the electoral votes by State region.


    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    Biden
    Nonsense about "areas". Land doesn't vote, people do. If EC were to follow proportional areas of people per capita then it would reflect like the House. The nonsensical part has, and always will be, the Senate.

    Another part of this is the gerrymander, which is a gigantic problem.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Biden
    static111 said:
    Just saw a poll down here in Texas that shows Biden leading by 1.   If he takes Texas it’s all over.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    Yeah I got unfriended by someone for pointing that out (re:Trump kids).  He didn't like things to distract from his misinformation campaign and echo chamber.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    look at your calendar
    Yeah, I mean it makes total sense to release a 2016 concert on the 30th anny of your first concert. ;)  Extremely weird to me.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    I mean you can watch it between now and the 25th. To think I could be at a Vote for Change-type show in South Philly right now, if not for a once-in-100-year global pandemic.
    Yeah I don't have much interest in a 2016 show.  Now if they were playing a live show...I'm done for that.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited October 2020
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    same with the 60 minutes interview. and every journalist out there. every single time he brings up hunter they should be clapping back with the nepotism. is ivanka and jared qualified? not one iota. how about cozying up to china and then ivanka gets a shitload of patents approved in china right after? FFS is there any journalist out there that is prepared to actually ask him tough questions? i haven't seen it. if you actually have the guy one on one where he can't just move on, ask these goddamn questions. profiting off white house business at his properties. the list is endless, and it's all been verified. the media is complicit at every step of his rise to power and during. 

    how about defrauding kids with cancer with their charity and how they are banned from ever operating one ever again? jesus, where are the real journalists?

    peppering him with the same questions about masks for 5 minutes is useless. 


    I feel like you will like this one! She would destroy Trump. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    look at your calendar
    Yeah, I mean it makes total sense to release a 2016 concert on the 30th anny of your first concert. ;)  Extremely weird to me.
    you know it's the Ten show. it's obviously relevant. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    same with the 60 minutes interview. and every journalist out there. every single time he brings up hunter they should be clapping back with the nepotism. is ivanka and jared qualified? not one iota. how about cozying up to china and then ivanka gets a shitload of patents approved in china right after? FFS is there any journalist out there that is prepared to actually ask him tough questions? i haven't seen it. if you actually have the guy one on one where he can't just move on, ask these goddamn questions. profiting off white house business at his properties. the list is endless, and it's all been verified. the media is complicit at every step of his rise to power and during. 

    how about defrauding kids with cancer with their charity and how they are banned from ever operating one ever again? jesus, where are the real journalists?

    peppering him with the same questions about masks for 5 minutes is useless. 
    I really don't understand how he wasn't removed by 25th amendment.  Rosenstein apparently tried to get the votes very early and couldn't do it.  I really thought the Mattis/Kelly/Tillerson crew was going to make it happen.
    because the republicans who initially laughed at his candidacy turned into spineless shills that cared only about power and not about the country. they obviously didn't think it would come back to bite them in the ass, but with guys like lindsay "if we elect trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it" graham now fighting for their political lives, i say "fuck you and good riddance". 
    But they still would have been in power....Pence would have been POTUS and likely been much more stable.
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    look at your calendar
    Yeah, I mean it makes total sense to release a 2016 concert on the 30th anny of your first concert. ;)  Extremely weird to me.
    and the hoops I have to jump through to watch via Nugs....nah
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After 2016 I am so hesitant to get excited about any poll.
    Very true. We keep hearing this is not 2016 but after Nov 3 comes and goes and if Trump is still the president polls are irrelevant for ever to me. 
    Same....

    It's hard for me because I am surrounded by tRumpsters.  Indiana is just a hotbed of ignorant Fox News addicts.  It just seems like tRump has this in the bag based on what I see around me.

    How these morons focus on Hunter Biden when the tRump children are benefitting directly in plain view just blows my mind.
    same with the 60 minutes interview. and every journalist out there. every single time he brings up hunter they should be clapping back with the nepotism. is ivanka and jared qualified? not one iota. how about cozying up to china and then ivanka gets a shitload of patents approved in china right after? FFS is there any journalist out there that is prepared to actually ask him tough questions? i haven't seen it. if you actually have the guy one on one where he can't just move on, ask these goddamn questions. profiting off white house business at his properties. the list is endless, and it's all been verified. the media is complicit at every step of his rise to power and during. 

    how about defrauding kids with cancer with their charity and how they are banned from ever operating one ever again? jesus, where are the real journalists?

    peppering him with the same questions about masks for 5 minutes is useless. 


    I feel like you will like this one! She would destroy Trump. 
    this is exactly the type of no BS type of reporting that is needed with this admin. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    Biden
    Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?
    I mean you can watch it between now and the 25th. To think I could be at a Vote for Change-type show in South Philly right now, if not for a once-in-100-year global pandemic.
    Yeah I don't have much interest in a 2016 show.  Now if they were playing a live show...I'm done for that.
    That was my point - they would be playing a live show in Philadelphia right now, if not for the pandemic.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Biden
    I can't wait to watch this Philly show....but Cincy has a point. How the fuck they have not gotten together to play virtually during this year when so many other bands have been able to pull it off (who we're not even promoting an album) is beyond me. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    I can't wait to watch this Philly show....but Cincy has a point. How the fuck they have not gotten together to play virtually during this year when so many other bands have been able to pull it off (who we're not even promoting an album) is beyond me. 
    who knows. most of my favourite bands haven't done this. how many have done it that don't need the money? maybe part of their motivation not to do it is to stay out of the way of the ones who do need that income. if they did it, of course we'd all pay for it, but that might mean we wouldn't pay for another one who isn't so fortunate. 

    or maybe they're concerned about travelling in the pandemic. i would imagine most mid-level bands still live in the same city. these guys don't. ed has done a few performances solo. i mean, if mike says he and stone waved at each other from across the street, doesn't that tell you something? if they aren't willing to cross the damn street for a short conversation, why would they be willing to get in a room for 2 hours to play? remember, I'd imagine mike is high risk. and we don't know who else in the PJ world might be as well. 
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