I will start again with - Biden is going to win/has won/whatever tense you want to use. And regardless of what Trump says or does, he will remain Pres until 1/20/21 when Biden is inaugurated.
That being said, the reason Az could be a concern is because the one place Trump has a legitimate legal argument is PA. The legislature is given the right to set election law. By PA law, ballots must be received by Election Day. The governor, then “approved” by a judge, they extended the receipt date by 3 days. Can’t do that without legislative approval. So, legally speaking, any ballots received after election day are illegal. Trump has a better than 50/50 chance of all those ballots being thrown out by LAW. And if election officials didn’t segregate those ballots, they run the risk of ALL the associated ballots (even technically legal ones) being thrown out. Now, I wonder how many ballots that is. That’s never been made clear as opposed to other states, PA has been less transparent about their process. But I suspect if the bulk were received by Election Day, the governor would have stated that (if he did an I missed it, ok). So, if the number is not too big, even this may not matter.
Now, it does not appear such an issue (Legal) exists in any of the other states. So, even when the inevitably find the miscast ballots (they will, they always do and just bc of the volume of mail ins will be greater), it won’t be in the thousands. I think WI had like 150 margin change toward Trump in 2016 recount. Even extrapolating for volume, that wouldn’t be near enough to change anything.
so, in regards to the statement of illegal ballots, Trump is technically correct. So, if you believe in laws, you really need to stop saying there aren’t any. Now, courts will decide if they are legal, but as it stands today, by PA law, there are some ballots that are illegal (defined as : against the law) being counted in PA. That much is crystal clear.
And all that may not matter if Biden doesn’t need PA which actually appears to be the case. That’s also why Roberts was smart not to get involved pre-election. He can successfully keep the SC out of it if there’s no impact. That’s actually a criteria for SC to take a case in the first place. But if it goes to SC, Trump has a good chance to win because, again, technically speaking according to law, he’s right. But that will only impact PA. The rest he needs ballot level proof for.
I feel sorry for you if you really typed that out. But more likely you cut and pasted a interwebbery google search and selectively edited it, thinking you’re on to changing minds. Well, some, maybe, but not enough. Welcome to the HORROR! Boo!
Again- if it wasn't clear - I don't think any of it matters. But, there is a potentially legit legal issue there (And only there). My guess is it doesn't get very far because it winds up not even mattering. But, I find it funny that people just want to stay ignorant on Facts. I didn't actually say anything controversial. I actually point to the need to back up their claims of Fraud if they have it (which, again I point out is not signficant),
And, in case it got lost - I was not saying the COUNTING after data is illegal. It's just narrowly about votes received after Election Day. Which is a clear legal matter. But, again, again - my guess is that's not proportionately significant.
So, I'm not sure what you're trying to say I'm dredging up here. What about what I said was wrong? If there is something factual incorrect, please enlighten me.
Now, you can say that law is stupid (i actually think it is - how can you expect something postmarked Election Day and received by Election Day? Even the most efficient post office wouldn't have the happen?) But, we have lots of stupid laws nobody ever thinks about until they need to think about them. Should that law be changed? Certainly. But, you should be frightened if Executive and Judicial Branch can do that without legislative approval. I think that's been part of the drum beat for the last 4 years, hasn't it?
But, feel free to stay ignorant.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Better than 50/50 chance by LAW? Are you a judge in PA, specializing in their law?
Agreed. I should not have stated that. I should have said - he has a chance. I have no idea the likelihood. I was ascribing a higher chance b/c if it mattered, it will end up in the SC where he would seem to have at least a 50/50 chance. IF that occurs what do you think his chances would be?
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Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I will start again with - Biden is going to win/has won/whatever tense you want to use. And regardless of what Trump says or does, he will remain Pres until 1/20/21 when Biden is inaugurated.
That being said, the reason Az could be a concern is because the one place Trump has a legitimate legal argument is PA. The legislature is given the right to set election law. By PA law, ballots must be received by Election Day. The governor, then “approved” by a judge, they extended the receipt date by 3 days. Can’t do that without legislative approval. So, legally speaking, any ballots received after election day are illegal. Trump has a better than 50/50 chance of all those ballots being thrown out by LAW. And if election officials didn’t segregate those ballots, they run the risk of ALL the associated ballots (even technically legal ones) being thrown out. Now, I wonder how many ballots that is. That’s never been made clear as opposed to other states, PA has been less transparent about their process. But I suspect if the bulk were received by Election Day, the governor would have stated that (if he did an I missed it, ok). So, if the number is not too big, even this may not matter.
Now, it does not appear such an issue (Legal) exists in any of the other states. So, even when the inevitably find the miscast ballots (they will, they always do and just bc of the volume of mail ins will be greater), it won’t be in the thousands. I think WI had like 150 margin change toward Trump in 2016 recount. Even extrapolating for volume, that wouldn’t be near enough to change anything.
so, in regards to the statement of illegal ballots, Trump is technically correct. So, if you believe in laws, you really need to stop saying there aren’t any. Now, courts will decide if they are legal, but as it stands today, by PA law, there are some ballots that are illegal (defined as : against the law) being counted in PA. That much is crystal clear.
And all that may not matter if Biden doesn’t need PA which actually appears to be the case. That’s also why Roberts was smart not to get involved pre-election. He can successfully keep the SC out of it if there’s no impact. That’s actually a criteria for SC to take a case in the first place. But if it goes to SC, Trump has a good chance to win because, again, technically speaking according to law, he’s right. But that will only impact PA. The rest he needs ballot level proof for.
I feel sorry for you if you really typed that out. But more likely you cut and pasted a interwebbery google search and selectively edited it, thinking you’re on to changing minds. Well, some, maybe, but not enough. Welcome to the HORROR! Boo!
Again- if it wasn't clear - I don't think any of it matters. But, there is a potentially legit legal issue there (And only there). My guess is it doesn't get very far because it winds up not even mattering. But, I find it funny that people just want to stay ignorant on Facts. I didn't actually say anything controversial. I actually point to the need to back up their claims of Fraud if they have it (which, again I point out is not signficant),
And, in case it got lost - I was not saying the COUNTING after data is illegal. It's just narrowly about votes received after Election Day. Which is a clear legal matter. But, again, again - my guess is that's not proportionately significant.
So, I'm not sure what you're trying to say I'm dredging up here. What about what I said was wrong? If there is something factual incorrect, please enlighten me.
Now, you can say that law is stupid (i actually think it is - how can you expect something postmarked Election Day and received by Election Day? Even the most efficient post office wouldn't have the happen?) But, we have lots of stupid laws nobody ever thinks about until they need to think about them. Should that law be changed? Certainly. But, you should be frightened if Executive and Judicial Branch can do that without legislative approval. I think that's been part of the drum beat for the last 4 years, hasn't it?
But, feel free to stay ignorant.
You're correct. All indications coming from counties right now is that the number of votes arriving 'late' will be very small. But the court ruled that it is legal, however isolate them in the event there is another challenge. Every moment it seems less likely to be an issue. I'm more concerned about the PA legislature attempting to circumvent the voters and select their own electors. If it comes down to PA, I'm 100% sure they will try that. And that...would be bullshit.
Better than 50/50 chance by LAW? Are you a judge in PA, specializing in their law?
Agreed. I should not have stated that. I should have said - he has a chance. I have no idea the likelihood. I was ascribing a higher chance b/c if it mattered, it will end up in the SC where he would seem to have at least a 50/50 chance. IF that occurs what do you think his chances would be?
I fully expect the modern version of The God Squad to do whatever Trump wants on any potential election ruling where they can even claim a remote thread of justification.
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Sounds willfully dangerous as we are trying to navigate through a pandemic and deep economic issues.... We deserve better. But monsters going to monster
I will start again with - Biden is going to win/has won/whatever tense you want to use. And regardless of what Trump says or does, he will remain Pres until 1/20/21 when Biden is inaugurated.
That being said, the reason Az could be a concern is because the one place Trump has a legitimate legal argument is PA. The legislature is given the right to set election law. By PA law, ballots must be received by Election Day. The governor, then “approved” by a judge, they extended the receipt date by 3 days. Can’t do that without legislative approval. So, legally speaking, any ballots received after election day are illegal. Trump has a better than 50/50 chance of all those ballots being thrown out by LAW. And if election officials didn’t segregate those ballots, they run the risk of ALL the associated ballots (even technically legal ones) being thrown out. Now, I wonder how many ballots that is. That’s never been made clear as opposed to other states, PA has been less transparent about their process. But I suspect if the bulk were received by Election Day, the governor would have stated that (if he did an I missed it, ok). So, if the number is not too big, even this may not matter.
Now, it does not appear such an issue (Legal) exists in any of the other states. So, even when the inevitably find the miscast ballots (they will, they always do and just bc of the volume of mail ins will be greater), it won’t be in the thousands. I think WI had like 150 margin change toward Trump in 2016 recount. Even extrapolating for volume, that wouldn’t be near enough to change anything.
so, in regards to the statement of illegal ballots, Trump is technically correct. So, if you believe in laws, you really need to stop saying there aren’t any. Now, courts will decide if they are legal, but as it stands today, by PA law, there are some ballots that are illegal (defined as : against the law) being counted in PA. That much is crystal clear.
And all that may not matter if Biden doesn’t need PA which actually appears to be the case. That’s also why Roberts was smart not to get involved pre-election. He can successfully keep the SC out of it if there’s no impact. That’s actually a criteria for SC to take a case in the first place. But if it goes to SC, Trump has a good chance to win because, again, technically speaking according to law, he’s right. But that will only impact PA. The rest he needs ballot level proof for.
I feel sorry for you if you really typed that out. But more likely you cut and pasted a interwebbery google search and selectively edited it, thinking you’re on to changing minds. Well, some, maybe, but not enough. Welcome to the HORROR! Boo!
Again- if it wasn't clear - I don't think any of it matters. But, there is a potentially legit legal issue there (And only there). My guess is it doesn't get very far because it winds up not even mattering. But, I find it funny that people just want to stay ignorant on Facts. I didn't actually say anything controversial. I actually point to the need to back up their claims of Fraud if they have it (which, again I point out is not signficant),
And, in case it got lost - I was not saying the COUNTING after data is illegal. It's just narrowly about votes received after Election Day. Which is a clear legal matter. But, again, again - my guess is that's not proportionately significant.
So, I'm not sure what you're trying to say I'm dredging up here. What about what I said was wrong? If there is something factual incorrect, please enlighten me.
Now, you can say that law is stupid (i actually think it is - how can you expect something postmarked Election Day and received by Election Day? Even the most efficient post office wouldn't have the happen?) But, we have lots of stupid laws nobody ever thinks about until they need to think about them. Should that law be changed? Certainly. But, you should be frightened if Executive and Judicial Branch can do that without legislative approval. I think that's been part of the drum beat for the last 4 years, hasn't it?
But, feel free to stay ignorant.
Zero positive, baby. Yea, hypothetically, baby. You come around here ‘bout every fore years, amiaight?
It's all data driven. They are going off the idea that Trump has no realistic chance to catch Biden in PA now. I suspect the networks will follow soon.
Its a mathematical certainty at this point, and has been for awhile. The networks (and Biden) are going to be careful not to call it the minute Biden pulls ahead because its bad optics. Its done though.
is there gonna be a live streaming while trump packing from white house?
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And, in case it got lost - I was not saying the COUNTING after data is illegal. It's just narrowly about votes received after Election Day. Which is a clear legal matter. But, again, again - my guess is that's not proportionately significant.
So, I'm not sure what you're trying to say I'm dredging up here. What about what I said was wrong? If there is something factual incorrect, please enlighten me.
Now, you can say that law is stupid (i actually think it is - how can you expect something postmarked Election Day and received by Election Day? Even the most efficient post office wouldn't have the happen?) But, we have lots of stupid laws nobody ever thinks about until they need to think about them. Should that law be changed? Certainly. But, you should be frightened if Executive and Judicial Branch can do that without legislative approval. I think that's been part of the drum beat for the last 4 years, hasn't it?
But, feel free to stay ignorant.
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Sounds willfully dangerous as we are trying to navigate through a pandemic and deep economic issues.... We deserve better. But monsters going to monster
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Its a mathematical certainty at this point, and has been for awhile. The networks (and Biden) are going to be careful not to call it the minute Biden pulls ahead because its bad optics. Its done though.
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