Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    This does not surprise me at all.... young white voters are teh ones that care about racial identity, more than older voters AND members of the actual minority groups. 
    https://reason.com/2020/04/22/poll-50-percent-of-white-democrats-are-bothered-biden-is-an-old-white-man-most-black-and-hispanic-democrats-dont-care/
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    This does not surprise me at all.... young white voters are teh ones that care about racial identity, more than older voters AND members of the actual minority groups. 
    https://reason.com/2020/04/22/poll-50-percent-of-white-democrats-are-bothered-biden-is-an-old-white-man-most-black-and-hispanic-democrats-dont-care/
    This does not surprise me either. It seems they are just practicing what they paid to have preached to them.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,533
    I'm sitting this one out
    Doesn't sound very sympathetic. 


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,533
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,533
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Why are the Bidenbrosises acting like this @Halifax2TheMax ? The Bidenbrosises sure are a plague and Biden has to speak up and dissociate from them publicly. 


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,064
    Why are the Bidenbrosises acting like this @Halifax2TheMax ? The Bidenbrosises sure are a plague and Biden has to speak up and dissociate from them publicly. 


    “Counterpunch?” Like Mario Kart cafeteria tour rainbow road employment KISS godsecki 4 or 5, slab o heart attack on a sunny day insert gif here, bro?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,064
    2008? You a playa, yo bro? brokartsisesmarioohohohohoh? Took you and Sven awhile, 2008? The Swedish Way, right? Like Saab?

    KISS gif
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,533
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Why are the Bidenbrosises acting like this @Halifax2TheMax ? The Bidenbrosises sure are a plague and Biden has to speak up and dissociate from them publicly. 


    “Counterpunch?” Like Mario Kart cafeteria tour rainbow road employment KISS godsecki 4 or 5, slab o heart attack on a sunny day insert gif here, bro?
    All of these atempts at disparaging. 

    What does that make you?

    [  ] Standard Bidenbuddybroisese
    [  ] Just another internet tough guy that needs some fresh air
    [  ] Creed-fan that can't accept that PJ outlived his favorite band.
     

    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,064
    Why are the Bidenbrosises acting like this @Halifax2TheMax ? The Bidenbrosises sure are a plague and Biden has to speak up and dissociate from them publicly. 


    “Counterpunch?” Like Mario Kart cafeteria tour rainbow road employment KISS godsecki 4 or 5, slab o heart attack on a sunny day insert gif here, bro?
    All of these atempts at disparaging. 

    What does that make you?

    [  ] Standard Bidenbuddybroisese
    [  ] Just another internet tough guy that needs some fresh air
    [  ] Creed-fan that can't accept that PJ outlived his favorite band.
     

    It’s Beiber. Justin. What did you do with/to him?

    You a playa? Bro?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,064
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


    Or the 16% of Bernie primary supporters who voted Team Trump Treason in the general in 2016. Thanks "dems."
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    I'm sitting this one out
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


    Or the 16% of Bernie primary supporters who voted Team Trump Treason in the general in 2016. Thanks "dems."
    Ian Anderson>George Jean Nathan

    (And I was a theatre arts major.)
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,064
    dankind said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


    Or the 16% of Bernie primary supporters who voted Team Trump Treason in the general in 2016. Thanks "dems."
    Ian Anderson>George Jean Nathan

    (And I was a theatre arts major.)
    Thick as a brick. Do you love in the sink?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    I'm sitting this one out
    dankind said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


    Or the 16% of Bernie primary supporters who voted Team Trump Treason in the general in 2016. Thanks "dems."
    Ian Anderson>George Jean Nathan

    (And I was a theatre arts major.)
    Thick as a brick. Do you love in the sink?
    Depends on the partner.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dankind said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Roger Waters talking heavy shit about Biden. Quick burn all your Floyd albums!!!
    After seeing a show on the Us + Them tour a few years ago I would have thought he'd back a shoe as long as it was running against Trump. Maybe he hasn't got the AMT memo about not supporting Biden means you support Trump...quick, start a Roger Waters thread so a specific few can go rant on and on about him.

    news flash. not voting for Biden IS a vote for trump to stay in office.
    Maybe where you live. I have the luxury of (not) voting my conscience where I live. 
    no you don't

    No matter where you live and no matter how it looks...

    ...leave your starters in.  Keep knocking down three-pointers even if you think you have a 20-point lead in the final seconds.  It's not over until it's over.  And even if Biden sails by in your state, it's nice to add one more to the popular vote margin to get under a narcissist's skin.

    And just saying you have the luxury to skip tells me you actually want Biden to win.  If that's what  you want, vote for it.
    I like your analogy. 
    I don't want to get under anyone's skin. A narcissist already suffers from a psychological ailment. Why would I want to make anything worse for such a person, which likely would only make such a person worse of a person?

    And anyone who runs for office is a narcissist. Some cases are just more extreme than others.

    I have no faith in the political systems of the US; every branch is blighted. Lost it in 4th grade, when I started reading newspapers daily and history books (outside of the text assigned to the class) for research projects. I stopped saying the pledge of allegiance that year, and I've never looked back. I fought teachers, principals (philosophically) and peers (physically) every school year thereafter because of my stance to sit. My nonvote is a more grown-up vote of no confidence than sitting for the pledge, since that's not something we're forced to do anymore. It's not a country or a process that I want to support by pretending to believe in its bought and paid for institutions of structural racism, sexism and classism. Just because I might think one candidate is marginally better than another doesn't override my core personal philosophical convictions. 

    I don't want Biden to win. I don't want Trump to win. So I don't do anything to make either of those things happen.

    How do you dare tell me that I'm my father's son
    When that was just an accident of birth?
    I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
    'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth.

    --Jethro Tull, "Wind-Up"


    Or the 16% of Bernie primary supporters who voted Team Trump Treason in the general in 2016. Thanks "dems."
    Ian Anderson>George Jean Nathan

    (And I was a theatre arts major.)
    https://youtu.be/0Bi4uOi3OOw

    Joe Biden>Donald Trump
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,643
                                           Help me.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,175
    Biden
                                           Help me.

    Well said.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JimmyV said:
                                           Help me.

    Well said.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    Gigity


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    Who would have guessed that Biden would be strong in PA.  Shocking. 
  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Really illuminating article on the enormous difference between Democrats and Republicans (and why you should never ever vote for the latter).

    https://terikanefield-blog.com/the-limits-of-sadopopulism/

  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    Really illuminating article on the enormous difference between Democrats and Republicans (and why you should never ever vote for the latter).

    https://terikanefield-blog.com/the-limits-of-sadopopulism/

    tldr:
    Democrats use gov't as a tool to promote unity and equality
    Republicans use gov't as a tool to promote hierarchy and division
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,175
    Biden
    Hi! said:

    He's right. Even before corona it was less than 100% that we would have an election in the fall of 2020. And people who think that sounds crazy need to step back and really look at the last few years. So much of what Trump and the GOP have done would have sounded crazy even a few years ago, yet it all happened. This is no different.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    Really illuminating article on the enormous difference between Democrats and Republicans (and why you should never ever vote for the latter).

    https://terikanefield-blog.com/the-limits-of-sadopopulism/

    This is a good article. I agree with the point made about how the pandemic is a big reason why Biden is leading Trump with seniors. To me, this is more important than the fact that he's underperforming with the young folks. Seniors vote!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,533
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    (CNN)Newly surfaced video from 1993 appears to feature the mother of Tara Reade, a woman who accused presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden of sexual assault, calling into a cable TV show to seek advice around the time of the alleged assault.

    In a "Larry King Live" segment that aired on August 11, 1993, on CNN, an unnamed woman calls in to the show with her location identified on the screen as San Luis Obispo, California. The show was about the cutthroat nature of Washington, DC, politics and media.
    "Yes, hello. I'm wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington?" she asks. "My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him."
    Larry King responds: "In other words, she had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn't tell it?"
    "That's true," the caller says.
    The woman does not mention sexual assault or harassment, nor does she describe in any detail what "problems" she might be referring to. Her daughter's name and Biden are also not mentioned.
    In a phone interview with CNN Friday night, Reade told CNN that she is certain the voice in the video belongs to her mother, Jeanette Altimus, who died a few years ago.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html


    So, eh, @Kat and @Halifax2TheMax you still stand by these? 


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,643
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
                                           Help me.

    Well said.



    Thanks for the tip. Mine was set to 3. I was trying to edit an old draft that the quote box held onto. And I’m guessing the system hides, not deletes, after 3 levels deep. So I literally got lost in the sea of empty boxes.

    This comment was brought to you by Trump  Hypodermic Disinfectant. 

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    (CNN)Newly surfaced video from 1993 appears to feature the mother of Tara Reade, a woman who accused presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden of sexual assault, calling into a cable TV show to seek advice around the time of the alleged assault.

    In a "Larry King Live" segment that aired on August 11, 1993, on CNN, an unnamed woman calls in to the show with her location identified on the screen as San Luis Obispo, California. The show was about the cutthroat nature of Washington, DC, politics and media.
    "Yes, hello. I'm wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington?" she asks. "My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him."
    Larry King responds: "In other words, she had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn't tell it?"
    "That's true," the caller says.
    The woman does not mention sexual assault or harassment, nor does she describe in any detail what "problems" she might be referring to. Her daughter's name and Biden are also not mentioned.
    In a phone interview with CNN Friday night, Reade told CNN that she is certain the voice in the video belongs to her mother, Jeanette Altimus, who died a few years ago.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html


    So, eh, @Kat and @Halifax2TheMax you still stand by these? 


    1. Why does she respect him if he raped her. 
    2. No one has said it's impossible that Biden touched her neck OR even that she left because she felt uncomfortable in some way.
    3. There's no accusation here at all,  even against Biden.  What if Reade was upset with the chief of staff, the head admin,  the janitor? Where in there does anyone accuse Biden of anything that gets close to rape?
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