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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Biden
    Bentleyspop said:
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
    Nice
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
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    pjl44 said:
    Weep for those with nonfunctional bullshit detectors who allow their minds to be poisoned by grifters like Louise Mensch because life is nothing but Trump rage

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/menschs-list

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/twitter-verification-problem

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch
    You don't have to believe her.  You can read the two documents she sources for yourself.  They are still up and available. All of her stories are about an abusive husband.  She even touts Joe Biden as "sponsor of Violence against Women Act".  
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Weep for those with nonfunctional bullshit detectors who allow their minds to be poisoned by grifters like Louise Mensch because life is nothing but Trump rage

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/menschs-list

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/twitter-verification-problem

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch
    You don't have to believe her.  You can read the two documents she sources for yourself.  They are still up and available. All of her stories are about an abusive husband.  She even touts Joe Biden as "sponsor of Violence against Women Act".  
    I wouldn't spend a second of my day reading a word she wrote. If it's credible and gets picked up by a reputable news outlet, by all means post a link.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    It's like if Gateway Pundit or OANN had a story making the rounds. Sure a blind squirrel may find a nut on occasion, but I'll wait to see if someone with integrity reports on it before even giving it a glance.
  • JimmyV
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    https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1249769354431852545


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    For someone who's "been trying to tell their story since 1993," seems a bit odd. And so much for the lame stream media "not looking into it." Another false narrative tactic by the smear campaigners. A Pakistani news outlet reports on an after midnight podcast, the blogosphere-twitterverse cries for justice and the lame stream media reports on something they had been looking into but decided it might lack "credibility." Anyone remember the outrage over the Rolling Stone story? Sure you do.

    A California woman who last year said Joe Biden touched her neck and shoulders when she worked in his Senate office in 1993 is now accusing him of sexually assaulting her that year in a semiprivate area of the Capitol complex, an allegation the Biden campaign strongly denies.

    The Washington Post has been examining Tara Reade’s allegation over the past three weeks, since she said on a podcast that Biden had pinned her against a wall, reached under her skirt and pushed his fingers inside her. At the time, she was a 29-year-old staff assistant.

    The Post has interviewed Reade on multiple occasions — both this year and last — as well as people she says she told of the assault claim and more than a half-dozen former staffers of Biden’s Senate office.

    In interviews with The Post last year, Reade said that Biden had touched her neck and shoulders but did not mention the alleged assault or suggest there was more to the story. She faulted his staff, calling Biden “a male of his time, a very powerful senator, and he had people around saying it was okay.”

    She acknowledged in more recent interviews that she twice voted for the Obama-Biden ticket, saying she strongly supported their political positions. Since January, Reade has been a vocal supporter of Biden’s former rival Bernie Sanders. She said political considerations played no role in her decision to raise the sexual assault allegation.

    On Thursday, Reade filed a complaint with D.C. police. She told The Post she did so because she is being harassed online and wanted law enforcement to be aware of her claim. A public record of the complaint does not name Biden but says Reade “disclosed that she believes she was the victim of a sexual assault” in 1993.

    Reade said she described the alleged assault soon after it happened to her mother, who died in 2016, and to a friend, a former intern for another lawmaker. In an interview, the friend corroborated Reade’s account of their conversation but declined to be named in this report.

    In another recent interview, Reade’s brother, Collin Moulton, said she told him in 1993 that Biden had behaved inappropriately by touching her neck and shoulders. Their mother urged Reade to contact the police, Moulton said, adding that he felt “ashamed now for not being a better advocate” for his sister. Several days after that interview, he said in a text message that he recalled her telling him that Biden had put his hand “under her clothes.”

    Reade said she told a therapist earlier this year about the alleged assault. The Post asked Reade for the therapist’s notes of that conversation, but she has not produced them.

    The campaign also released a statement attributed to Marianne Baker, who was an executive assistant in the office and one of the supervisors to whom Reade says she made a harassment complaint.

    “In all my years working for Sen. Biden, I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period — not from Ms. Reade, not from anyone,” Baker said. “I have absolutely no knowledge or memory of Ms. Reade’s accounting of events, which would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager. These clearly false allegations are in complete contradiction to both the inner workings of our Senate office and to the man I know and worked so closely with for almost two decades.”

    Reade worked for Biden’s office from December 1992 to early August 1993, according to Senate records. She said that in addition to Baker, she complained about feeling uncomfortable — but not the alleged assault — to two other supervisors in the Senate office: Dennis Toner, deputy chief of staff; and Ted Kaufman, chief of staff. Toner and Kaufman said in interviews that they had no specific recollection of Reade and no memory of such a complaint.

    Flores’s story inspired Reade to offer her own account to her local newspaper, the Union, in Nevada County, Calif, Reade said. The details in that article matched the narrative Reade gave The Post the next day in a telephone interview.

    The Post last year published other accusations of unwanted touching by Biden but not Reade’s. A friend that she said she had told of the harassment did not respond last year to requests for comment. That friend — the same one who in recent days confirmed that Reade told her of the alleged assault — said she had no memory of receiving calls from The Post.

    In the recent interviews with The Post, Reade said she could not remember exactly where in the Capitol complex she was when she met Biden to deliver a gym bag to him. She was wearing a skirt and no stockings because it was a warm day in April or May, she said.

    Reade’s younger brother, Moulton, said she had told him parts of her experience with Biden but not the alleged sexual assault.

    A few days after that interview, Moulton sent the text saying he wanted to clarify his remarks. He wrote that he recalled Reade telling him in the early 1990s that Biden had cornered her and put his hands under her clothes.

    Reade said that in 1993 she filed a complaint with a congressional human resources or personnel office but did not remember the exact name. Her complaint dealt only with the alleged harassment, not the assault, she said.

    The Post could find no record of the complaint, and Reade said she never received a copy. The Senate Office of Fair Employment Practices, which fielded complaints starting in 1992, was replaced under a 1995 law and is now called the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights.

    She occasionally has tweeted positively about Biden, saying in 2017, “My old boss speaks truth. Listen” with a link to a BBC story about Biden calling for the tech industry to help fight cancer.

    Reade told The Post in a recent interview that she tweeted support of him because she admired some things about Biden despite the alleged assault. “Here’s the person I admire, who stands for all I believe in,” she said. “At the same time, that’s what happened to me personally.”

    Full article here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sexual-assault-allegation-by-former-biden-senate-aide-emerges-in-campaign-draws-denial/2020/04/12/bc070d66-7067-11ea-b148-e4ce3fbd85b5_story.html

    Plenty of holes to fall into. File a civil suit, compel witnesses to testify under oath, subpoena documents and release documentary evidence that support your claims. You know, seek justice.

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  • CM189191
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    Bentleyspop said:
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
    Finally!

    Let's hope Bernie's supporters follow suit.
  • Gern Blansten
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    She occasionally has tweeted positively about Biden, saying in 2017, “My old boss speaks truth. Listen” with a link to a BBC story about Biden calling for the tech industry to help fight cancer.


    Not something a victim of sexual assault would say I don't think

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  • OnWis97
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    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
    Finally!

    Let's hope Bernie's supporters follow suit.

    Bernie supporters don't like Trump...but they have an even stronger dislike for "Corporate" dems.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
    Finally!

    Let's hope Bernie's supporters follow suit.

    Bernie supporters don't like Trump...but they have an even stronger dislike for "Corporate" dems.
    I forget, are Corporate Dems part of The Establishment or the Deep State?



  • brianlux
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    Biden
    CM189191 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    CM189191 said:
    Joe Biden wins Alaska Democratic primary

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/joe-biden-alaska-primary-results/index.html

    Did Bernie endorse Biden yet?

    Bernie needs to endorse Biden.
    Here you go..

    Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden For President https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden-president-182333013.html
    Finally!

    Let's hope Bernie's supporters follow suit.
    Yes, please!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Weep for those with nonfunctional bullshit detectors who allow their minds to be poisoned by grifters like Louise Mensch because life is nothing but Trump rage

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/menschs-list

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/twitter-verification-problem

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch
    You don't have to believe her.  You can read the two documents she sources for yourself.  They are still up and available. All of her stories are about an abusive husband.  She even touts Joe Biden as "sponsor of Violence against Women Act".  
    I wouldn't spend a second of my day reading a word she wrote. If it's credible and gets picked up by a reputable news outlet, by all means post a link.
    Why not read Reade's actual words?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Biden
    Has Warren endorsed Biden yet?

    Warren needs to endorse Biden.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    static111 said:
    Has Warren endorsed Biden yet?

    Warren needs to endorse Biden.
    Truth.  Start a campaign.  We know it works. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Has Warren endorsed Biden yet?

    Warren needs to endorse Biden.
    Truth.  Start a campaign.  We know it works. 
    Lol
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Biden
    lol you guys are a hoot. Be safe all. :)

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Well it brings up a curious point.  This allegation has been out there for a year,  shopped to various outlets and lawyers.  There's no doubt that Sanders team has researched it in full.  Yet they never brought it up and he suspended his campaign.  That strikes me as they see it lacks merit.  Sanders will have had oppo research look into this for sure. 
    Here's Bernie's Press Secretary calling the allegations credible


    Burisma isn’t close to being a credible issue.  It damages the integrity of her post.
    Yeah, agree totally on Burisma but that's not the point. We're talking about the sexual assault allegations. We don't have to speculate on what the Bernie campaign thought of them. She's telling us.
    I don’t know that she speaks for the campaign.  She’s listed as “former”.  The fact that she thinks Burisma is credible calls into question her general judgment on the issue.  
    She doesn’t say Burisma (or anything other than the sexual assault allegations, for that matter) is credible.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Weep for those with nonfunctional bullshit detectors who allow their minds to be poisoned by grifters like Louise Mensch because life is nothing but Trump rage

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/menschs-list

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/twitter-verification-problem

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch
    You don't have to believe her.  You can read the two documents she sources for yourself.  They are still up and available. All of her stories are about an abusive husband.  She even touts Joe Biden as "sponsor of Violence against Women Act".  
    I wouldn't spend a second of my day reading a word she wrote. If it's credible and gets picked up by a reputable news outlet, by all means post a link.
    Why not read Reade's actual words?
    Or anything Louise Mensch is linking to. Again, if someone credible wants to report on whatever all that is, I'm all ears.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Weep for those with nonfunctional bullshit detectors who allow their minds to be poisoned by grifters like Louise Mensch because life is nothing but Trump rage

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/menschs-list

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/twitter-verification-problem

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch
    You don't have to believe her.  You can read the two documents she sources for yourself.  They are still up and available. All of her stories are about an abusive husband.  She even touts Joe Biden as "sponsor of Violence against Women Act".  
    I wouldn't spend a second of my day reading a word she wrote. If it's credible and gets picked up by a reputable news outlet, by all means post a link.
    Why not read Reade's actual words?
    Or anything Louise Mensch is linking to. Again, if someone credible wants to report on whatever all that is, I'm all ears.
    https://digitalcommons.law.seattleu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1065&context=thelawyer
    https://archive.li/6ykxK

    There you go.. why let any news source tell you, let alone her.  Read the two primary documents yourself. 

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