Well, I cannot change my answer to the poll officially, but I am no longer sitting this one out.
Voting for Kamala!
I’ll trade ya poll selections.
Aren't you PA?
Yeah, Joe lost a swing-vote. I'll be voting third party. Kamala was the deal-breaker for me. Rice, Warren, or whoever would've been fine, I guess.
Might as well just get this out of the way in one post, rather than hanging around here putting on a façade that I'll voting for Biden. I don't feel a voter is obligated to vote for anyone. Rather, I feel it's the obligation of the candidate to earn the voter's vote. And the Democrats in general, and Biden in particular, have done nothing to earn my vote (neither have Trump and the GOP for that matter). I know, to vote third-party in Pennsylvania is to the benefit of Trump. Well it's too bad that the system sucks and you can not vote for someone (I won't be voting for Trump) and it can still benefit that person. And really, despite the fact that I don't like the Democratic Party (or liberalism in general), and I think Biden is a walking corpse and puppet, I was still willing to vote for him, unless he picked Harris.
So what's my beef with Harris you may ask. Well I don't like her grandstanding, her race-baiting, or the fact that she locked up so many people for marijuana offenses. I just in general don't like her. Now you might also ask, what about Trump? A simple search through my posts over the past two or so weeks will show that I've said on a few occasions that Trump is the worst president ever, which he is. I don't like him either. So I'm not going to vote for either. I didn't like John Kerry, but I voted for him because Bush was the worst president ever (or so I was told at the time). I didn't like Hillary, but I voted for her because Trump is Trump. I done with that stuff. I'm voting for candidates I like. I don't like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, or Mike Pence. And I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into voting for Biden based on Trump's historic awfulness. Though, I will feel a bit a guilt as I waste my vote on some third-party candidate or goofy write-in vote. But I'd rather feel guilty for wasting a vote than feel like a whore for voting for someone I dislike...again.
Also, I don't think my Biden winning Texas prediction is going to pan-out now.
If you feel a third-party candidate is a wasted vote - then you understand that there are only two candidates who have a chance at victory. Based on that, whether you like it or not, to spoil your ballot or to vote third party, would mean to exert 50% of what you could have to eliminate a Trump presidency. Again, whether you like it or not, Biden and Trump are now inextricably linked, in that the loss of one indicates the victory of the other. That means choosing not to vote Trump, is already a help to Biden - but because of some internal pride, you can't find it in you to double your efforts.
It’s actually sorta double-edged In my case. I’m a conservative, so someone like me would typically vote for the Republican candidate. So under that premise, my third-party or write-in vote hurts Trump and benefits Biden. But Trump’s the worst and I would never vote for him...hence “Biden” as my poll selection in this thread. So under the premise that I’m someone that would never check the box next to Trump, my third-party or write-in vote hurts Biden and benefits Trump. Hence why I’ve (understandably and predictably) have been getting so much shit here today. If I was a conservative that’s loves the GOP and Trump, I might be getting praised for voting third-party. But as a conservative that that doesn’t like the GOP and Trump, everyone seems pissed that I’m not voting Biden. In large part because they disagree with the reason I’m changing my mind being based mainly on the running-mate pick.
Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
Local dem. headquarters had a waiting list for yard signs. Wtf?
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I think maybe I’ll drop off some bottled water, soda, and some snacks tomorrow at the local dem. headquarters I mentioned above. Maybe talk to someone about buying some Biden/Harris stickers and signs in bulk to share with people. They didn’t even have a sticker. Goodnight.
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Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
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Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
Thanks for the clarification on that, but nevertheless, I still don’t agree with Biden’s stance (according to that link) to end cash bail.
Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
Thanks for the clarification on that, but nevertheless, I still don’t agree with Biden’s stance (according to that link) to end cash bail.
Why do you support a cash bail policy? It does nothing more than reinforce economic inequities already inherent in the criminal justice system, and contribute to the horrific rate of incarceration in the US, since many low risk people don't have the money for bail and may wait weeks or months (or years) in pretrial custody.
If you're really concerned about releasing potentially violent criminals, then you should be in favour of bail reform from a money-based to a risk-based system.
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I think maybe I’ll drop off some bottled water, soda, and some snacks tomorrow at the local dem. headquarters I mentioned above. Maybe talk to someone about buying some Biden/Harris stickers and signs in bulk to share with people. They didn’t even have a sticker. Goodnight.
Very cool! I need to look into how I can support my local Dem HQ. Thanks for the motivation!
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I think maybe I’ll drop off some bottled water, soda, and some snacks tomorrow at the local dem. headquarters I mentioned above. Maybe talk to someone about buying some Biden/Harris stickers and signs in bulk to share with people. They didn’t even have a sticker. Goodnight.
Very cool! I need to look into how I can support my local Dem HQ. Thanks for the motivation!
Thank you. I’m excited. Its really the least I can do in the most important election of my lifetime, but it’s something. I wouldn’t be able to live with the guilt of not doing a little something to help out. 🤙🏻✌🏻
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Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
Thanks for the clarification on that, but nevertheless, I still don’t agree with Biden’s stance (according to that link) to end cash bail.
Why do you support a cash bail policy? It does nothing more than reinforce economic inequities already inherent in the criminal justice system, and contribute to the horrific rate of incarceration in the US, since many low risk people don't have the money for bail and may wait weeks or months (or years) in pretrial custody.
If you're really concerned about releasing potentially violent criminals, then you should be in favour of bail reform from a money-based to a risk-based system.
Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
What do you mean when you are saying ending cash bail for violent crimes? Are you arguing that no bail set for any violent crimes?
You’re quoting the wrong post, but no, it’s Biden who wants to end cash bail. I was listing Biden stances I disagree with in response to Lerxst1992. I was trying to say that for violent offenses, absolutely not, and gave the example of the guy in NYC that was released and shot two people. But I didn’t type it out too clearly as I look back at it and it did read like I was saying I was for it. Biden, according to the link Lerxst1992 posted, wants to end cash bail in general. I’d be for it in certain cases (drug offenses for example), but not overall like this suggests Biden is....
If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
Thanks for the clarification on that, but nevertheless, I still don’t agree with Biden’s stance (according to that link) to end cash bail.
Why do you support a cash bail policy? It does nothing more than reinforce economic inequities already inherent in the criminal justice system, and contribute to the horrific rate of incarceration in the US, since many low risk people don't have the money for bail and may wait weeks or months (or years) in pretrial custody.
If you're really concerned about releasing potentially violent criminals, then you should be in favour of bail reform from a money-based to a risk-based system.
Also, completely agree that a speedier legal system would be preferable but realistically there are a number of factors that show it down. Complex investigations take time but unfortunately the defence counsel often tries to drag it out as long as possible in the hope that delay can lead to witnesses recanting or dropping out of sight, charges being dropped, or that they can show that the individual has not been criminally involved since the offence so should get a light sentence.
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someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
I'm with you....it's insane.
It seems like a lot of the anti-democrat chatter I see on FB or tiktok refers to democrats and non-working, poor, lazy, etc. Yet most of the tRump signs I see are in front of very lower class houses, trailers, etc.
I can't believe those people give up their money like that. But their fundraising arm knows how to get $5-$10 from them every week rather than the $100 at one time.
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someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
I doubt the campaign is just putting yard signs in people’s yards without permission, but anything is possible. Your last comments are exactly why I am concerned. I would say mostly in rural areas, and not only signs, it’s the Trump flags, and they are everywhere. I don’t even want to mention what the channel looks like when it’s packed with boaters heading out to the lake.
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someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
I doubt the campaign is just putting yard signs in people’s yards without permission, but anything is possible. Your last comments are exactly why I am concerned. I would say mostly in rural areas, and not only signs, it’s the Trump flags, and they are everywhere. I don’t even want to mention what the channel looks like when it’s packed with boaters heading out to the lake.
the administration is lawless and the campaign is helping kanye west spoil things for biden. do you think the campaign is going to think twice about planting signs in yards without permission?
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someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
I doubt the campaign is just putting yard signs in people’s yards without permission, but anything is possible. Your last comments are exactly why I am concerned. I would say mostly in rural areas, and not only signs, it’s the Trump flags, and they are everywhere. I don’t even want to mention what the channel looks like when it’s packed with boaters heading out to the lake.
the administration is lawless and the campaign is helping kanye west spoil things for biden. do you think the campaign is going to think twice about planting signs in yards without permission?
Lol, hell no, I was just guessing in that particular case.
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Voters See Harris as More Moderate Than Trump or Pence
Slim majority approves of Biden’s choice, which generated more buzz than 2016 Tim Kaine pick
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), former Vice President Joe Biden's newly selected running mate, speaks Wednesday at a campaign rollout event in Delaware. New polling shows most voters approve of her selection, which has generated significantly more buzz and enthusiasm than Sen. Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton's VP pick four years ago. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
37% of voters heard “a lot” about presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s selection of Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) as his running mate; 17% heard a lot about the Kaine pick four years ago.
After hearing about Harris’ background and policy positions, 53% approved her selection.
Following the pick, 50% of likely voters said they had a favorable view of Biden, his highest rating since mid-June.
While President Donald Trump and his re-election campaign have sought to brand Sen. Kamala Harris, the newly named Democratic vice presidential candidate, as a radical liberal, that framing is being met with some initial skepticism among voters, new Morning Consult/Politico polling shows.
The poll, conducted the day after former Vice President Joe Biden selected the California Democrat as his running mate, found that voters placed Harris just to Biden’s ideological left — and to the right of where voters placed Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in a Morning Consult poll conducted early this year.
The Trump campaign’s attempt to frame Harris as a radical who would be the one actually pulling the strings in a Biden administration also faces another roadblock: Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are perceived as more extreme than either candidate on the Democratic ticket and, by a smaller margin, are further from voters’ ideal candidates, according to another ideological test conducted by Morning Consult last month.
The Wednesday poll of 1,990 registered voters, which had a margin of error of 2 percentage points, also found that Harris’ policy record — including her support for raising taxes on the rich and placing restrictions on gun ownership, as well as her implementation of racial bias training for police officers while serving as San Francisco’s district attorney — inspired the most positive reception.
Less powerful were messages regarding her age (55 years old), her Christian denomination (Baptist) and her college alma mater (Howard University, a historically Black university in Washington, D.C.). More than 3 in 5 voters said the biographical traits had no impact on their views.
The strongest knocks against Harris had to do with immigration policies: 42 percent said her support for providing undocumented immigrants with government-funded health care gave them them a less favorable view of the California Democrat, while 41 percent said the same of her support for decriminalizing illegal border crossings. Her backing of both issues was indicated in hand-raise questions during a June 2019 Democratic primary debate highlighted this week by the Trump campaign.
After hearing more than two dozen contentions for and against Harris, 53 percent of voters — including 86 percent of self-identified liberals, 84 percent of Democrats and a 48 percent plurality of independents — said they approved of Biden’s decision, statistically unchanged from the answers received prior to the message test.
The news of Harris’ placement on Biden’s ticket made a bigger initial splash than Hillary Clinton’s selection of Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) as her running mate against Trump in 2016. In Harris’ first full day on the ticket, 37 percent of voters said they had seen, read or heard “a lot” about Biden’s selection, compared with 17 percent who said they’d heard a lot about Clinton’s choice four years ago.
The news had strongest resonance among Democrats, 45 percent of whom heard a lot about it (up 24 points from the 2016 announcement), while a third of Republicans and 27 percent of independent voters said the same.
Democrats were pleased with Biden’s selection: 88 percent said it made them hopeful, and roughly 4 in 5 said it made them confident, proud, happy or excited. Among Black voters and liberals, the sentiment was roughly the same. While Trump has portrayed Harris as a candidate who will weaken Biden, calling her “my No. 1 draft pick,” nearly half of Republicans (45 percent) said they were worried by Biden’s choice.
Harris was already a prominent figure in American politics, with 79 percent of voters at least recognizing her name in a survey conducted ahead of Biden’s selection. The latest survey found 94 percent of voters had heard of her following the announcement, and 45 percent view her favorably (up 12 points) while 37 percent hold unfavorable views (up 3 points).
Morning Consult polling of 3,820 likely voters conducted Wednesday found 50 percent have favorable views of Biden and 46 percent have unfavorable views, his best marks since mid-June. That survey also has a 2-point margin of error.
Like Biden, Harris is more popular than Trump or Pence, and more than half of moderate voters (52 percent) and a plurality of suburban voters (45 percent) have favorable views of her.
Researchers have repeatedly found vice presidential nominees have little impact on the outcome of elections, though some in Trump’s orbit have suggested that 2020 may defy that as they raise questions about Biden’s age and whether or not he’ll seek a second term.
The survey found that for half of voters (49 percent), Biden’s choice would make no impact on their vote. It was most likely to have a “major impact” for Black Americans (43 percent), who turned out at a lower rate in 2016 for the first time in 20 years.
And while research has shown that voters are not the best arbiters of their own intentions, the survey also found Harris has swayed more voters in the immediate aftermath of her selection than Kaine did four years ago: By a 10-point margin, voters said they were now more likely than less likely to vote for Biden, compared with a 5-point positive impact on voting intent following Clinton’s VP pick four years ago.
Morning Consult’s daily tracking of the contest found Biden leads Trump 51 percent to 43 percent among likely voters, statistically unchanged from polling conducted ahead of the announcement.
someone mentioned yard signs earlier and since this was not directly related to the post i did not quote it.
interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
I doubt the campaign is just putting yard signs in people’s yards without permission, but anything is possible. Your last comments are exactly why I am concerned. I would say mostly in rural areas, and not only signs, it’s the Trump flags, and they are everywhere. I don’t even want to mention what the channel looks like when it’s packed with boaters heading out to the lake.
the administration is lawless and the campaign is helping kanye west spoil things for biden. do you think the campaign is going to think twice about planting signs in yards without permission?
So which conspiracy theories are ok to believe again?
Report: Jared Kushner Met With Kanye West Last Week
Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor, met in private with Kanye West in Colorado last weekend, the New York Times reported, fueling speculation about a link between the Trump and West campaigns as the rapper scrambles to get onto the ballot in several states.
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KEY FACTS
West tweeted about the meeting on Twitter Tuesday night but did not elaborate about details in a follow-up interview with the Times.
Multipleoutlets reported that GOP political operatives—some with links to Trump—are working to help West get on the ballot in at least half a dozen states, driving speculation that the rapper could be coordinating with the Trump campaign to spoil Joe Biden’s shot at the White House.
In an interview with Forbes last week, West seemed to indicate his presidential run was in part driven by a motivation to damage Biden’s chances: “I’m not denying it; I just told you,” West said.
West is working to meet requirements to get on the ballot in several states, but due to missed deadlines, it is mathematically impossible for West to win enough votes (270) in the Electoral College.
Kushner met with West while traveling with his wife, Ivanka, who accompanied her husband to the meeting, the Timesreports.
West was camping with his family at the time, but West’s spouse, Kim Kardashian West, did not participate in the meeting.
KEY BACKGROUND
West failed to garner enough signatures to appear on the ballot in California, missing last week’s deadline. Even if West wins out in the states he has qualified for—which include Arkansas, West Virginia, Ohio, Vermont Oklahoma, Illinois, Colorado and Missouri—and states with upcoming filing deadlines, he would not have enough Electoral College votes to capture the White House. West could still have an outsize impact on the race, however, in battleground states, playing spoiler to Trump or Biden. West is slated to appear on the ballot in Ohio, traditionally a battleground state, and has filed paperwork to appear on the ballot in Wisconsin, a state Trump won by less than one point in 2016.
TANGENT
The Wisconsin state Democratic party challenged West’s election filing in the state, arguing the paperwork was submitted late and included phony signatures. Milwaukee bank attorney Joseph Santeler filed a second challenge in the state, making the same objections as the state party. West’s campaign says the rapper still deserves to be on the ballot in Wisconsin despite filing the paperwork 14 seconds late.
WHAT TO WATCH FOR
West could also appear on the ballot in Arizona, Minnesota and Georgia, which all have upcoming filing deadlines and could prove crucial to Trump or Biden.
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Saw this on the Red Mosquito forum. Pretty cool/weird/crazy/unbelievable. Him talking about his relationships with the band (Jeff and Matt in particular) will give ya a laugh.
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If you're referring to a story posted on here a few days back re: the guy released who then shot two people, that's not an example of a bail problem. The police released him because they no longer had evidence to charge or hold him, as their witness recanted.
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Why do you support a cash bail policy? It does nothing more than reinforce economic inequities already inherent in the criminal justice system, and contribute to the horrific rate of incarceration in the US, since many low risk people don't have the money for bail and may wait weeks or months (or years) in pretrial custody.
If you're really concerned about releasing potentially violent criminals, then you should be in favour of bail reform from a money-based to a risk-based system.
Very cool! I need to look into how I can support my local Dem HQ. Thanks for the motivation!
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But yeah, in the case used as an example in that article, I don’t think bail should be set for someone that steals a backpack.
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interesting story. i live in a pretty nice suburban neighborhood. it is quiet and all of the neighbors are friendly and helpful. there is an elderly couple caddy corner to me that always talks to me when i go get my mail or bring in my trash cans or whatever. they have been critical of trump's corona response. about a week ago i got home from work and they had a brand new trump pence 2020 sign in their yard. i was a little puzzled by this. the next day when i was leaving for work i noticed that the sign had been taken down.
i am not sure if they took it down themselves, or if someone in the neighborhood did it. i have not seen them outside to be able to ask them.
i am wondering if the trump campaign is just putting up signs in the yards of their 2016 voters or if supporters have to request them and put them up themselves.
at any rate, i am seeing more trump signs around here than i did in 2016. i am not sure if that is indicative of anything, but i am definitely scratching my head as to what these people have seen the last 4 years to make them want to support trump in 2020.
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It seems like a lot of the anti-democrat chatter I see on FB or tiktok refers to democrats and non-working, poor, lazy, etc. Yet most of the tRump signs I see are in front of very lower class houses, trailers, etc.
I can't believe those people give up their money like that. But their fundraising arm knows how to get $5-$10 from them every week rather than the $100 at one time.
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https://morningconsult.com/2020/08/13/kamala-harris-vp-polling/
Voters See Harris as More Moderate Than Trump or Pence
Slim majority approves of Biden’s choice, which generated more buzz than 2016 Tim Kaine pick
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), former Vice President Joe Biden's newly selected running mate, speaks Wednesday at a campaign rollout event in Delaware. New polling shows most voters approve of her selection, which has generated significantly more buzz and enthusiasm than Sen. Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton's VP pick four years ago. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)37% of voters heard “a lot” about presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s selection of Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) as his running mate; 17% heard a lot about the Kaine pick four years ago.
After hearing about Harris’ background and policy positions, 53% approved her selection.
Following the pick, 50% of likely voters said they had a favorable view of Biden, his highest rating since mid-June.
While President Donald Trump and his re-election campaign have sought to brand Sen. Kamala Harris, the newly named Democratic vice presidential candidate, as a radical liberal, that framing is being met with some initial skepticism among voters, new Morning Consult/Politico polling shows.
The poll, conducted the day after former Vice President Joe Biden selected the California Democrat as his running mate, found that voters placed Harris just to Biden’s ideological left — and to the right of where voters placed Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in a Morning Consult poll conducted early this year.
The Trump campaign’s attempt to frame Harris as a radical who would be the one actually pulling the strings in a Biden administration also faces another roadblock: Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are perceived as more extreme than either candidate on the Democratic ticket and, by a smaller margin, are further from voters’ ideal candidates, according to another ideological test conducted by Morning Consult last month.
The Wednesday poll of 1,990 registered voters, which had a margin of error of 2 percentage points, also found that Harris’ policy record — including her support for raising taxes on the rich and placing restrictions on gun ownership, as well as her implementation of racial bias training for police officers while serving as San Francisco’s district attorney — inspired the most positive reception.
Less powerful were messages regarding her age (55 years old), her Christian denomination (Baptist) and her college alma mater (Howard University, a historically Black university in Washington, D.C.). More than 3 in 5 voters said the biographical traits had no impact on their views.
The strongest knocks against Harris had to do with immigration policies: 42 percent said her support for providing undocumented immigrants with government-funded health care gave them them a less favorable view of the California Democrat, while 41 percent said the same of her support for decriminalizing illegal border crossings. Her backing of both issues was indicated in hand-raise questions during a June 2019 Democratic primary debate highlighted this week by the Trump campaign.
After hearing more than two dozen contentions for and against Harris, 53 percent of voters — including 86 percent of self-identified liberals, 84 percent of Democrats and a 48 percent plurality of independents — said they approved of Biden’s decision, statistically unchanged from the answers received prior to the message test.
The news of Harris’ placement on Biden’s ticket made a bigger initial splash than Hillary Clinton’s selection of Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) as her running mate against Trump in 2016. In Harris’ first full day on the ticket, 37 percent of voters said they had seen, read or heard “a lot” about Biden’s selection, compared with 17 percent who said they’d heard a lot about Clinton’s choice four years ago.
The news had strongest resonance among Democrats, 45 percent of whom heard a lot about it (up 24 points from the 2016 announcement), while a third of Republicans and 27 percent of independent voters said the same.
Democrats were pleased with Biden’s selection: 88 percent said it made them hopeful, and roughly 4 in 5 said it made them confident, proud, happy or excited. Among Black voters and liberals, the sentiment was roughly the same. While Trump has portrayed Harris as a candidate who will weaken Biden, calling her “my No. 1 draft pick,” nearly half of Republicans (45 percent) said they were worried by Biden’s choice.
Harris was already a prominent figure in American politics, with 79 percent of voters at least recognizing her name in a survey conducted ahead of Biden’s selection. The latest survey found 94 percent of voters had heard of her following the announcement, and 45 percent view her favorably (up 12 points) while 37 percent hold unfavorable views (up 3 points).
Morning Consult polling of 3,820 likely voters conducted Wednesday found 50 percent have favorable views of Biden and 46 percent have unfavorable views, his best marks since mid-June. That survey also has a 2-point margin of error.
Like Biden, Harris is more popular than Trump or Pence, and more than half of moderate voters (52 percent) and a plurality of suburban voters (45 percent) have favorable views of her.
Researchers have repeatedly found vice presidential nominees have little impact on the outcome of elections, though some in Trump’s orbit have suggested that 2020 may defy that as they raise questions about Biden’s age and whether or not he’ll seek a second term.
The survey found that for half of voters (49 percent), Biden’s choice would make no impact on their vote. It was most likely to have a “major impact” for Black Americans (43 percent), who turned out at a lower rate in 2016 for the first time in 20 years.
And while research has shown that voters are not the best arbiters of their own intentions, the survey also found Harris has swayed more voters in the immediate aftermath of her selection than Kaine did four years ago: By a 10-point margin, voters said they were now more likely than less likely to vote for Biden, compared with a 5-point positive impact on voting intent following Clinton’s VP pick four years ago.
Morning Consult’s daily tracking of the contest found Biden leads Trump 51 percent to 43 percent among likely voters, statistically unchanged from polling conducted ahead of the announcement.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/08/12/report-jared-kushner-met-with-kanye-west-last-week/#70c056423153
Report: Jared Kushner Met With Kanye West Last Week
Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor, met in private with Kanye West in Colorado last weekend, the New York Times reported, fueling speculation about a link between the Trump and West campaigns as the rapper scrambles to get onto the ballot in several states.
KEY FACTS
West tweeted about the meeting on Twitter Tuesday night but did not elaborate about details in a follow-up interview with the Times.
Multiple outlets reported that GOP political operatives—some with links to Trump—are working to help West get on the ballot in at least half a dozen states, driving speculation that the rapper could be coordinating with the Trump campaign to spoil Joe Biden’s shot at the White House.
In an interview with Forbes last week, West seemed to indicate his presidential run was in part driven by a motivation to damage Biden’s chances: “I’m not denying it; I just told you,” West said.
West is working to meet requirements to get on the ballot in several states, but due to missed deadlines, it is mathematically impossible for West to win enough votes (270) in the Electoral College.
Kushner met with West while traveling with his wife, Ivanka, who accompanied her husband to the meeting, the Times reports.
West was camping with his family at the time, but West’s spouse, Kim Kardashian West, did not participate in the meeting.
KEY BACKGROUND
West failed to garner enough signatures to appear on the ballot in California, missing last week’s deadline. Even if West wins out in the states he has qualified for—which include Arkansas, West Virginia, Ohio, Vermont Oklahoma, Illinois, Colorado and Missouri—and states with upcoming filing deadlines, he would not have enough Electoral College votes to capture the White House. West could still have an outsize impact on the race, however, in battleground states, playing spoiler to Trump or Biden. West is slated to appear on the ballot in Ohio, traditionally a battleground state, and has filed paperwork to appear on the ballot in Wisconsin, a state Trump won by less than one point in 2016.
TANGENT
The Wisconsin state Democratic party challenged West’s election filing in the state, arguing the paperwork was submitted late and included phony signatures. Milwaukee bank attorney Joseph Santeler filed a second challenge in the state, making the same objections as the state party. West’s campaign says the rapper still deserves to be on the ballot in Wisconsin despite filing the paperwork 14 seconds late.
WHAT TO WATCH FOR
West could also appear on the ballot in Arizona, Minnesota and Georgia, which all have upcoming filing deadlines and could prove crucial to Trump or Biden.