Spring Tour Postponed - Letter from the Band

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  • ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,282
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    Yes, because we wouldn't want to respectfully disagree on an open forum. Free speech until someone disagrees with you, huh?
    You aren't respectfully disagreeing.  You are being openly dismissive and employing logical fallacies left and right, and telling people to go back to their bunkers for simply having a realistic and reasonable view on the current situation of the world


  • SS209208 said:
    As a person with multiple health issues thanks for making that tough decision. I will miss having the energy recharge me, but glad the decision was taking out of my hands. Sorry for those who have made travel plans, but the weight of this health crisis is too heavy for the band to take on.

    All about you then, huh?
  • Darth Lizard KingDarth Lizard King Posts: 82
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  • All about you then, huh?
    Are you serious right now?  "Oh those people who may be seriously impacted by a virus there is no vaccine for are really making it all about them right now"
  • I can answer that one: if Mr. Obama was in office, he never would have gutted the epidemic response team, because he started the damn thing, he would not be on FOX News every other day talking out his ass about crap he knows nothing about and he would have responded proactively so there would be enough testing kits so people could receive proper treatment.

    If you are done with the band and their propaganda, thats too bad. At least they believe in whats right and fair and they stand behind those beliefs. They have a conscience. And thats a fuck ton more than a lot of other bands can say.
    "Mr Obama..." what a suck-up
  • "Mr Obama..." what a suck-up
    Please stop trolling, jesus
  • Darth Lizard KingDarth Lizard King Posts: 82
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  • Look at Johnny Gatekeeper laying down the law. Go back to pulling pud and let the people speak.
    Look at you, apparently looking for people to argue with. 
  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    If the band truly, truly didn't like what Eddie did, they would have sacked him the day after he wore a shirt with a coat hanger on it - or writing "pro-choice" on his arm back in 1992

    I think the assertion that the rest of the band is feeling like they are held hostage by Ed's political beliefs sounds more like fan fiction to me
    “Held hostage” might be too strong of a description.  But I’m fairly certain none of them are very passionate about politics.  And I think if you asked them off-the-record if they’d rather just play without the political banter every night, they would say “yes”.  
  • Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 751
    Yes, because we wouldn't want to respectfully disagree on an open forum. Free speech until someone disagrees with you, huh?

    "But my freedom of speech!" is like the ultimate code for "I've got nothing but need to have the last word anyway"
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  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    You're probably right, they likely all hate the guy and haven't made enough money in their careers to retire. C'mon man, seriously? Are you just trolling?
    I didn’t say anything about “hating” him.  Try to keep up here.  Nodding along and playing is good for business, so why rock the boat, right?  We can discuss this more at the Dave Matthews show.  
  • ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,282
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    Ultimately what is done is done.  PJ is not the first or last band who will postpone their events, and in the meantime Italy as a whole is in lockdown
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  • That's one of the saddest sentences I've ever read. You're gatekeeping people who don't sit around posting on an online forum all day? Take a good, hard look in the mirror and try to remember what happened to the life you wanted.
    I mean to be fair people such as you seemingly prefer to pick arguments with many people here tonight so is your life that much more enviable than those you are bitching about right now?
  • You don't even know what a fallacy is. What an embarrassment.
    What a troll
  • Are you serious right now?  "Oh those people who may be seriously impacted by a virus there is no vaccine for are really making it all about them right now"
    Then they should stay home, shouldn't they? Why ruin it for everyone else?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
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    All about you then, huh?
    Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself now. Have you stopped for 2 seconds to think about the band in all of this? People in my area (the band's, too) are dying. In my county we have 20 dead. One was a mid-50's guy with underlying health conditions. The band is in the age demographics, and we know at least Mike has underlying health conditions, and likely a compromised immune system due to Chrohns. So quit making this all about you. This thing is just getting started. People who need testing can't get it. We don't have vaccines, don't have antiviral treatments and the best we can do is slow this thing down. That's done with personal hygiene, and social distancing. Companies here are having workers work from home. Schools and entire school districts are closing. The band is living this right now, even if you're not. Grow up.
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    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Then they should stay home, shouldn't they? Why ruin it for everyone else?
    I mean it is very easy to have such a mindset if one does not fully understand the scientific scope of the situation
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  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    You aren't respectfully disagreeing.  You are being openly dismissive and employing logical fallacies left and right, and telling people to go back to their bunkers for simply having a realistic and reasonable view on the current situation of the world


    The current situation is a mess.  It’s a global issue and nobody seems to have any good answers yet.  However, our government restricted travel to China months ago when they were mocked for doing so.  Instead of trying to make it sound like our government failed, we should look at the truth and see they’ve done about as well as anyone could have expected given the circumstances.  
  • ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,282
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    Mix in some punctuation. You write like a serial killer.
    Why so angry tonight, Darth?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,307
    MC185899 said:
    Funny...I haven’t seen Mike McCready wearing a pussy hat at Bernie rallies, have you?  The rest of the band is held hostage by Eddie because he’s the meal ticket.  Jeff Ament’s side project probably wouldn’t pay as well.  Neither would the “Boom Gaspar Trio”.  So they have no choice but to play along.  

    Does Dave Matthews spend a lot of shows talking down to his audience in a similar fashion?  I’m tired of being lectured by a guy who didn’t even complete High School.  I’m ready to just enjoy a good show instead.  I’ll get a ticket for you, too.  
    Maybe doesn't wear the hat himself, but this seems close enough, lol.
    Your comments are out there man. I don't know how you can keep being a fan. If I thought the things you think, there is no way I could still be a big enough fan to pay for a 10C membership. But okay, enjoy the fan club!

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    MC185899 said:
    The current situation is a mess.  It’s a global issue and nobody seems to have any good answers yet.  However, our government restricted travel to China months ago when they were mocked for doing so.  Instead of trying to make it sound like our government failed, we should look at the truth and see they’ve done about as well as anyone could have expected given the circumstances.  
    They absolutely did fail. We still don't have adequate tests for those who need them. They could have jumped out in front on this and taken help from the WHO and Germany regarding testing but we didn't. And we continue to see bumbling and lack of planning. We're behind and trying to catch up. The best we can do now is try to slow the spread. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,849
    Please stop trolling, jesus
    Honestly, it’s probably unreasonable to expect anything else. Lizards really do have very small brains. 
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  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76

    Let’s face reality: the last album was god-awful and the new album seems to be more of the same.  Eddie’s voice is almost totally shot, too.  I’m just glad I got to see them a bunch when they were fun and powerful and energetic. They are now a relic and a novelty act.  
  • ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,282
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    MC185899 said:
    Let’s face reality: the last album was god-awful and the new album seems to be more of the same.  Eddie’s voice is almost totally shot, too.  I’m just glad I got to see them a bunch when they were fun and powerful and energetic. They are now a relic and a novelty act.  
    I mean, why be here then, if I may genuinely ask with all due respect?  I can't imagine with that mindset that your money is being well spend paying for 10C if you don't want anything the band has to offer anymore lol
  • This thread has gone straight to the dumpster unfortunately, I remember when this thread used to be about this tour being postponed
  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    PJ_Soul said:
    Maybe doesn't wear the hat himself, but this seems close enough, lol.
    Your comments are out there man. I don't know how you can keep being a fan. If I thought the things you think, there is no way I could still be a big enough fan to pay for a 10C membership. But okay, enjoy the fan club!

    Oy vey!  <insert vomiting sounds>

    I really wish you hadn’t posted that.  
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