They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.
It didn’t need mentioned.
But it kinda does. The US is in this position because the government was incapable, or unwilling to act sooner. On top of that, they have done a terrible job about maintaining calm and educating the public. With SARS, or ebola threats, (maybe even Zika?) those respective admins urged calm, educated the public and worked with diagnostic and medical supply companies to make sure supplies and and testing kits were in order to best serve the communities. The CDC gave guidance to hospitals and doctors. They led. This admin has prioritized the markets over the public health. they are now behind the eightball and have to drastically catch up. On top of all of that the main concern of the president is the keep the numbers low, whether realistically or artificially. He admitted to this on national TV.
This is getting cancelled, Yes because its a concern, sicknesses spread, happens every year, but also because the government has failed to act in a responsible and articulate manner. So its worth mentioning.
So it’s the government’s fault?? Lol.
I wouldn't be laughing.
I do disagree with their decision to postpone but they have every right to speak up.
We all should keep in mind in situations like this the US is closer to a 3rd world nation than Europe, Canada and Australia in dealing with a health issue.
We have 30 million uninsured and millions more with insurance that are likely to not be tested due to cost. We have a president actively slowing down test availability because he thinks it will "hurt the numbers."
We have a pro corporate economy that rewards employers who deny paid sick leave, which may force tens of millions into the workplace and mass transit potentially spreading the virus. Hysterical.
I understand it but its not like it's the norm at this point.
It's going to be next couple days. Some pretty large, well-respected universities in the northeast have already announced this morning that they're putting a halt to large gatherings of 100 people and prohibiting university related travel through mid-April. There's definitely going to be a carryover effect to other venues, universities, corporations, sports leagues. It's not like the number of new COVID-19 cases is slowing down. Would you rather have Pearl Jam announce it now and get ahead of it or wait until closer to the last minute?
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Baltimore Holiday Inn reservation cancelled. Sucks. Not the way I wanted to start the day but there are plenty of people having a worse morning.
Maryland has declared a state of emergency. Tell them to look on the Internet.
Yeah someone said in an earlier post that their Baltimore hotel said they'd refund only if Maryland declares a state of emergency. Hopefully that person is aware that it's been declared so they can get their money back.
Don't know about that but I booked a refundable rate early thanks to Dimi's hints. No charge for me but it still sucks.
I understand it but its not like it's the norm at this point.
It's going to be next couple days. Some pretty large, well-respected universities in the northeast have already announced this morning that they're putting a halt to large gatherings of 100 people and prohibiting university related travel through mid-April. There's definitely going to be a carryover effect to other venues, universities, corporations, sports leagues. It's not like the number of new COVID-19 cases is slowing down. Would you rather have Pearl Jam announce it now and get ahead of it or wait until closer to the last minute?
Administrations fuck up the response to major issues all the time, this isn't new. Who cares if they mentioned what is the truth right now. Are you the same people who defended the lack of response to Katrina? There are definitive steps and actions that can be taken prior to an all out pandemic. While the health of the stock market is important, it shouldn't be more important than the actual health of real people. This admin seems to be focusing on the effect instead of the cause and hoping it all just goes away when the weather warms up. Fucking stupid.
This is terrible for everyone. It's not like this isn't a huge hit financially for Pearl Jam. Months of planning, logistics and labor involved to get this tour up and now, all for naught. Sure, they can probably eat the cost better than a lot of their fan base, but there is an impact.
Just got off the phone with Spirit Airlines. They are giving me a full credit to be used within 6 months for my NON-REFUNDABLE ticket. They did say that you HAVE to call them directly. Cancelling on-line will NOT issue you a credit.
Just got off the phone with Spirit Airlines. They are giving me a full credit to be used within 6 months for my NON-REFUNDABLE ticket. They did say that you HAVE to call them directly. Cancelling on-line will NOT issue you a credit.
That's nice of them, except it's likely that people won't use their refund within six months because the virus will probably be worse by then, and less people will travel.
Just got off the phone with Spirit Airlines. They are giving me a full credit to be used within 6 months for my NON-REFUNDABLE ticket. They did say that you HAVE to call them directly. Cancelling on-line will NOT issue you a credit.
That's nice of them, except it's likely that people won't use their refund within six months because the virus will probably be worse by then, and less people will travel.
Just got off the phone with Spirit Airlines. They are giving me a full credit to be used within 6 months for my NON-REFUNDABLE ticket. They did say that you HAVE to call them directly. Cancelling on-line will NOT issue you a credit.
That's nice of them, except it's likely that people won't use their refund within six months because the virus will probably be worse by then, and less people will travel.
Yep, that’s why I’m not cancelling flights for a few weeks. Hoping they’ll outright cancel flights and they’ll just have to refund me. If not, I’ll cancel in a few weeks and my 6 month credit (if I get one) will get me until oct
Just got off the phone with Spirit Airlines. They are giving me a full credit to be used within 6 months for my NON-REFUNDABLE ticket. They did say that you HAVE to call them directly. Cancelling on-line will NOT issue you a credit.
That's nice of them, except it's likely that people won't use their refund within six months because the virus will probably be worse by then, and less people will travel.
Yep, that’s why I’m not cancelling flights for a few weeks. Hoping they’ll outright cancel flights and they’ll just have to refund me. If not, I’ll cancel in a few weeks and my 6 month credit (if I get one) will get me until oct
My wife just canceled our Delta tickets for spring break with the kids. Delta gave us 1 year to reschedule flights, but the clock started when we booked the tickets in January, not yesterday or the actual date of intended travel in April. Read the fine print.
havent the experts said the warmer weather will slow down the virus and summer travel should be okay? But I agree, 6 months credit wont do us much good, we've already booked our summer travel
West jet has just announced rescheduling, refund policy in light of corona virus impacts. Looks like customers might be able to get refunds. Hopefully other airlines will follow suit so fans affected by cancellations can get some money back!
Waiting on a call back right now, but their policy is only until march 31st. So I'm not sure why that deadline is set by them.
Also, my hotel that was NON-REFUNDABLE are also giving me a full refund. I just mentioned the virus and they immediately said ok. As for the Spirit credit, i'm just glad i got anything at all from them. Delta gave me a full refund, i thought Spirit being so cheap wouldn't care.
I've seen several airlines have a march 31 deadline. My guess is they are just hoping it gets better and will extend the deadline as needed. As much as it sucks for us, airlines are losing a ton of money over this too. Many airlines struggle as it is, and refunding flights for a month or 2 might wipe out a lot of their profits. Not that I feel sorry for them, I can just understand why they are slowly extending the deadline
havent the experts said the warmer weather will slow down the virus and summer travel should be okay? But I agree, 6 months credit wont do us much good, we've already booked our summer travel
They hope warmer weather and increased sun exposure will slow the virus down, but it's a new virus and we don't know yet. It's worth remembering that the most famous pandemic, the so-called Spanish Flu, flourished in the summer.
They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.
It didn’t need mentioned. Only serves to further the divide.
The key word there is further.
Crisis like these demand quality leadership. Every American has every right to demand it.
What we dont need is a president more concerned about "how the numbers hurt him" and not the families dealing with this illness.
If someone like Vedder is bullied into silence then who speaks up?
The divide is built in to human nature. People don’t see things the same and everyone has their biases and reasons for their beliefs.
There are better ways to speak up than deflecting the blame in a nearly blameless situation.
I don’t want Eddie Vedder as a spokesman on health crises nor do I want some famous right winger with a mic downplaying it. I want people that know wtf they’re talking about.
Unless you are out a bunch of $$ on this, why would anyone be so angry? Over a concert that is more than likely going to be rescheduled? People need to get a grip.
For me its like this.
Money lost Blowing some prime vacation picks at my work to secure dates in March Family arrangements with family members who made arrangements from their work that are going to be hard to change Not able to make the fall tour due to no vacation allowed at my job from Sep to Dec. Being hyped to see the best band in the world only to have it taken away 8 days before the tour starts
This one stings a lot especially when my country has fared as well as it has so far with this virus. I disagree with their decision for the shows up here but it is what it is and will probably be selling 4 GA's for the Canadian shows at some point when the shows get announced for the fall. Here is to hoping that the Euro tour can be saved.
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So far Pear Jam is the only band to postpone a tour in the US. Sorry but doesnt seek like it is necessary as they are the only ones doing it.
If you didn't already know the entirety of SxSW has been cancelled.
I wouldn't be laughing.
I do disagree with their decision to postpone but they have every right to speak up.
We all should keep in mind in situations like this the US is closer to a 3rd world nation than Europe, Canada and Australia in dealing with a health issue.
We have 30 million uninsured and millions more with insurance that are likely to not be tested due to cost. We have a president actively slowing down test availability because he thinks it will "hurt the numbers."
We have a pro corporate economy that rewards employers who deny paid sick leave, which may force tens of millions into the workplace and mass transit potentially spreading the virus. Hysterical.
Would you rather have Pearl Jam announce it now and get ahead of it or wait until closer to the last minute?
Of all the people who know the least about M4A (I dont support Sanders fwiw) I'd trust information from doctors the least.
They have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and have gotten basic things about ACA and M4A completely wrong.
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This is terrible for everyone. It's not like this isn't a huge hit financially for Pearl Jam. Months of planning, logistics and labor involved to get this tour up and now, all for naught. Sure, they can probably eat the cost better than a lot of their fan base, but there is an impact.
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But I agree, 6 months credit wont do us much good, we've already booked our summer travel
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Not that I feel sorry for them, I can just understand why they are slowly extending the deadline
It's worth remembering that the most famous pandemic, the so-called Spanish Flu, flourished in the summer.
I don’t want Eddie Vedder as a spokesman on health crises nor do I want some famous right winger with a mic downplaying it. I want people that know wtf they’re talking about.
Money lost
Blowing some prime vacation picks at my work to secure dates in March
Family arrangements with family members who made arrangements from their work that are going to be hard to change
Not able to make the fall tour due to no vacation allowed at my job from Sep to Dec.
Being hyped to see the best band in the world only to have it taken away 8 days before the tour starts
This one stings a lot especially when my country has fared as well as it has so far with this virus. I disagree with their decision for the shows up here but it is what it is and will probably be selling 4 GA's for the Canadian shows at some point when the shows get announced for the fall. Here is to hoping that the Euro tour can be saved.