Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

washed in black

mpedone said:

washed in black said:

sp1984 said:

 

ETA - probably going to eat AirCanada tickets. :( 

@sp1984 Have you spoken to Air Canada yet? I was supposed to fly Newark to Toronto on AC a week from today and haven't yet called to see what my options are.

She is probably on her way home (and then to bed), so I'll answer for her - she did get through. No refund, but they're essentially crediting us the cost of the tickets. We have until next January to use the credit (I'm guessing 1 year from the date we booked), and there will be a $100 rescheduling fee.

Thanks for the response @mpedone

HesCalledDyer

Glad they are honoring the tickets but what a bitch move.  The media has blown this thing so god damn far out of proportion and everyone is drinking the Kool-Aid by the barrel.  There is nothing more the media and the government in this country love more than watching everyone lose their fucking minds over something simple.  It's a god damn virus, not the zombies from 28 Days Later.  You're more likely to die of cancer, a car accident, heart disease, a stray bullet, or the actual flu but let's postpone a tour and quarantine the whole country over fucking SARS LIte.

BSully

I understand the decision even though I don't like it. If they are going to postpone, do it now instead of a few days before. Hopefully in a few months things will settle down and we can do this again!

pbultimate

Any company that doesnt give a full refund on any type of reservation deserves public shaming. 

Times are different right now

CantKeepmedown

Unless you are out a bunch of $$ on this, why would anyone be so angry?  Over a concert that is more than likely going to be rescheduled?  People need to get a grip.

xjoshfromworkx

Hate this is happening because of irrational fear pushed by the media, completely stupid. I just hope the STL rescheduled date falls on weekend still, but I don't think we'll see these rescheduled dates until 2021.

The shitty icing on this shitty cake is going to be if I can't take my Euro trip in May as well because of all this mess.

rgambs

HesCalledDyer said:

Glad they are honoring the tickets but what a bitch move.  The media has blown this thing so god damn far out of proportion and everyone is drinking the Kool-Aid by the barrel.  There is nothing more the media and the government in this country love more than watching everyone lose their fucking minds over something simple.  It's a god damn virus, not the zombies from 28 Days Later.  You're more likely to die of cancer, a car accident, heart disease, a stray bullet, or the actual flu but let's postpone a tour and quarantine the whole country over fucking SARS LIte.

Panicking is a poor choice, but you have to understand that the precautions people are taking because of the hype are what contain epidemics.  SARS, MERS, Ebola...people act like they are innocent puppies that get hyped into Cujos...No.  They are fucking dangerous and it's only the extra caution that keeps pandemics at bay.  

jadakid

To properly recognize many of the posters here, the band should book a new opening act for the reschedule dates: Me First and the Gimme Gimmes.  

Tim Simmons

DewieCox said:

EarlWelsh said:

PJINFLA said:

Nice job blaming the government

They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.

It didn’t need mentioned. 

But it kinda does. The US is in this position because the government was incapable, or unwilling to act sooner. On top of that, they have done a terrible job about maintaining calm and educating the public. With SARS, or ebola threats, (maybe even Zika?) those respective admins urged calm, educated the public and worked with diagnostic and medical supply companies to make sure supplies and and testing kits were in order to best serve the communities. The CDC gave guidance to hospitals and doctors. They led. This admin has prioritized the markets over the public health. they are now behind the eightball and have to drastically catch up. On top of all of that the main concern of the president is the keep the numbers low, whether realistically or artificially. He admitted to this on national TV. 

This is getting cancelled, Yes because its a concern, sicknesses spread, happens every year, but also because the government has failed to act in a responsible and articulate  manner. So its worth mentioning.  

mace1229

I’m hoping for not a summer tour here, as ive already made summer plans and will likely miss it. And I imagine in a month or 2 when they actually would announce it many more would be in the same boat by then. 
Hoping for 1 long fall tour that combines both legs.

Tim Simmons

PP193448 said:

It’s a virus, like the Flu, so it’s easily transmitted person to person. They are working on vaccines.  What kind of clear message do you need...
We could close the borders and limit travel.  But that would be racist, right.

We can maybe not take down signs at immigration courts informing immigration of prevention methods. 

But mainly stressing to the public how dangerous this can be to the elderly and immunocompromised, having a clear plan to deal with this as it rapidly spread in China in January, and mainly stressing how to minimize the spread of it rather than worrying about making sure the optics of the numbers infected/dead are the most important thing to manage in this crises.   

PP193448

Tim Simmons said:

DewieCox said:

EarlWelsh said:

PJINFLA said:

Nice job blaming the government

They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.

It didn’t need mentioned. 

But it kinda does. The US is in this position because the government was incapable, or unwilling to act sooner. On top of that, they have done a terrible job about maintaining calm and educating the public. With SARS, or ebola threats, (maybe even Zika?) those respective admins urged calm, educated the public and worked with diagnostic and medical supply companies to make sure supplies and and testing kits were in order to best serve the communities. The CDC gave guidance to hospitals and doctors. They led. This admin has prioritized the markets over the public health. they are now behind the eightball and have to drastically catch up. On top of all of that the main concern of the president is the keep the numbers low, whether realistically or artificially. He admitted to this on national TV. 

This is getting cancelled, Yes because its a concern, sicknesses spread, happens every year, but also because the government has failed to act in a responsible and articulate  manner. So its worth mentioning.  

So it’s the government’s fault??   Lol. 

pjsteelerfan

mace1229 said:

I’m hoping for not a summer tour here, as ive already made summer plans and will likely miss it. And I imagine in a month or 2 when they actually would announce it many more would be in the same boat by then. 
Hoping for 1 long fall tour that combines both legs.

I would not bet on these rescheduled dates happening in 2020

PP193448

Tim Simmons said:

PP193448 said:

It’s a virus, like the Flu, so it’s easily transmitted person to person. They are working on vaccines.  What kind of clear message do you need...
We could close the borders and limit travel.  But that would be racist, right.

We can maybe not take down signs at immigration courts informing immigration of prevention methods. 

But mainly stressing to the public how dangerous this can be to the elderly and immunocompromised, having a clear plan to deal with this as it rapidly spread in China in January, and mainly stressing how to minimize the spread of it rather than worrying about making sure the optics of the numbers infected/dead are the most important thing to manage in this crises.   

True.  But we can also blame people and their own actions to cause this to spread.  I recently read where a man who was known to be infected, disregarded self quarantine and went to his daughters dance recital at her school.  Complete selfishness and disregard for other people’s health safety.  Should we demand the government be responsible and quarantine infected people??  Imagine the lawsuits... 

pbultimate

My wife just said...dont cancel yet. Wait a week. Maybe they’ll unpostphone 🤦‍♂️

DewieCox

Tim Simmons said:

Super weird that people have a problem with Ed calling out the government. 

Hey man, it’s ok to not slurp up everything he spits out. I don’t even disagree with him/them, it just feels forced in and makes it seem like making sure their opinion is out there is as/more important as the reason for the postponement. 

rgambs

PP193448 said:

Tim Simmons said:

DewieCox said:

EarlWelsh said:

PJINFLA said:

Nice job blaming the government

They definitely didn’t BLAME the government, only pointed out the less than stellar job Dr. Don is doing of handling the situation.

It didn’t need mentioned. 

But it kinda does. The US is in this position because the government was incapable, or unwilling to act sooner. On top of that, they have done a terrible job about maintaining calm and educating the public. With SARS, or ebola threats, (maybe even Zika?) those respective admins urged calm, educated the public and worked with diagnostic and medical supply companies to make sure supplies and and testing kits were in order to best serve the communities. The CDC gave guidance to hospitals and doctors. They led. This admin has prioritized the markets over the public health. they are now behind the eightball and have to drastically catch up. On top of all of that the main concern of the president is the keep the numbers low, whether realistically or artificially. He admitted to this on national TV. 

This is getting cancelled, Yes because its a concern, sicknesses spread, happens every year, but also because the government has failed to act in a responsible and articulate  manner. So its worth mentioning.  

So it’s the government’s fault??   Lol. 

You shouldn't misrepresent someone's detailed and measured comments with a summary that lacks depth, integrity, and honesty. It isn't fair to them and it makes you look intellectually shallow.

RobZ

Tim Simmons said:

Super weird that people have a problem with Ed calling out the government. 

He calls out "our" government, yet cancels Canada?  Yeah, that's a chicken shit move.....

Celticskemba8

GR42159 said:

I’m probably in the minority, but I was super jacked about the US portion of the spring tour beginning right as the album was being released.  I wish PJ would instead release a Gigaton B-Sides album on 3/27, then the real thing just days before they start the US tour dates as originally planned - whenever those are.  It’s delayed gratification for sure, but there is something magical about hearing the songs live from an album released less than a week prior.  

I was going to Quebec which is before the album was coming up. It would have been amazing to be there to hear some songs for the first time that anyone has heard them. 

primussucks

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