At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the summer festival circuit wasn't shut down completely. Simply too many people in too confined of an area. A couple infected people in one of those crowds could lead to 1000s of cases. Lots of the festival goers are also travellers making a high risk of transporting it globally.
I'm not personally freaked about this as it seems to be similar mortality as other bad pandemics, but global leaders are going to be wanted to be seen as proactive in this case as the risk is very real if not taken seriously.
1993-08-12 - Edmonton, AB, Convention Centre
2003-05-30 - Vancouver, BC, General Motors Place
2005-09-04 - Calgary, AB, Pengrowth Saddledome
2005-09-05 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
2009-08-08 - Calgary, AB, Canada Olympic Park
2009-09-21 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
2009-09-22 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
2011-09-23 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
2013-11-30 - Spokane, WA, Spokane Arena
Would you guys say its time to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?
2005-9-12 London, ON
2006-5-09 Toronto
2007-8-03 (ed w/ ben harper) chicago / 2007-8-05 chicago
2008-8-12 (ed solo) toronto
2009-10-08 (ed solo) Albany
2011-9-11 Toronto / 2011-9-12 Toronto
2013-7-16 London, ON / 2013-7-19 Chicago / 2013-10-12 Buffalo
2016-5-11 Toronto, On / 2016-5-13 Toronto, On
I don't really remember this many people being this worked up over SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu, etc. I did have a stroke in 2017 and my memory can be clouded sometimes but I really don't recall this much hysteria.
I don't really remember this many people being this worked up over SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu, etc. I did have a stroke in 2017 and my memory can be clouded sometimes but I really don't recall this much hysteria.
Did those spread as quickly though? I
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The prep for this reminds me of people buying plastic sheeting and duct tape to keep the anthrax out after 9/11.
I don't really remember this many people being this worked up over SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu, etc. I did have a stroke in 2017 and my memory can be clouded sometimes but I really don't recall this much hysteria.
Did those spread as quickly though? I
novel H1N1 was basically in community transmission before they even knew it existed. It was everywhere. And it was doing almost exactly the opposite of what this novel corona is doing. Novel H1N1 showed no real discriminatory targeting, severe to critical cases were not restricted to high indices of elderly people, or those with underlying conditions.
Thus far all the data for COVID implies it is harshly discriminatory.
Everyday that goes by we are creeping closer to spring/summer months and the numbers in NA are looking very good right now for the tour and our health. This is a fluid situation that changes by the day. Right now I am confident the tour is going to be a go but if the news flips as it could at any minute that tune would obviously change. Also Canada and the US are massive countries land wise. If something is going on in Vancouver or Miami that in no way should affect the tour imo. If they shut down shows they should be done on a city to city basis imo.
As for the Europe tour I would not use what they are doing right now and think that will in anyway be a predictor for the summer tour. If anything precautionary measures being made today bode well for a tour in the summer minimizing the spread of the virus and hopefully make for a quicker recovery in the coming months.
A second case in California of someone getting under unknown reasons. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this tour ends up getting canceled, but I really hope not!!
This virus could become a pandemic. I hope to God it doesn't but it certainly has the potential. Pandemics spread and kill people all over the world. The idea is to get ahead of it, if it shows the potential to become a pandemic, steps need to be taken. If that means, limiting air travel, stopping large groups of people getting together (concerts, sporting events) from gathering, that's what it takes. Your desire to see PJ does not override the safety of people. Look up the history of pandemics. It's not pretty. I have tickets to both LA shows. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if those plans have to be cancelled. I'm an optimistic person, but I'm not messing with a pandemic. For those who say it's like the flu, do you realize how many people every year die from the flu??? And this is a new strain of the virus. Don't dismiss it.
I don't really remember this many people being this worked up over SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu, etc. I did have a stroke in 2017 and my memory can be clouded sometimes but I really don't recall this much hysteria.
I don't really remember this many people being this worked up over SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu, etc. I did have a stroke in 2017 and my memory can be clouded sometimes but I really don't recall this much hysteria.
Did those spread as quickly though? I
Do they look worried?
I was there. It was after the outbreak, if memory serves, not during. Midsummer. And AC/DC stole the show.
10 points if anyone can spot me in the crowd.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
The issue today is that we have the ability to prevent transmission. The influenza flu pandemic 1918 killed an estimated 50+ million people world wide. A few reasons this was so widespread was because of lack of knowledge. People in Chicago had more knowledge of the sickness than say people in Philadelphia. So there was no panic in Philadelphia when they threw a huge parade. A large group of people, in close contact, during a pandemic. Look up the numbers for Philly during that time. News didn't travel so fast back then. Obviously today, prevention efforts and knowledge is readily available. It would be wise to use those tools.
I have been trying to point out the significance of this virus for a while now. I get why some folks mock it. They don't understand it and they don't want to. They want to see Pearl Jam.
I want to see Pearl Jam too. I have ~$4k invested in international air fare, hotels, trains. I have the best seats I've ever had for 4 shows (including two GA shows). I REALLY want these shows to happen. I'm willing to show up in goggles and a mask and rock out if needed.
THAT SAID: I felt it was prudent to try to raise awareness to discuss the possibility this event could interrupt some or all shows. I'm glad some folks understood that initially and I'm glad even more do now.
You holdouts, I ain't mad at ya.
Let's all just Keep our fingers crossed this tapers off, stays chill, and THE SHOWS GO ON! 🤘🏼
Memphis '94 / Charlotte '96 / Birmingham '98 / Knoxville '98 / Memphis '00 / Nashville '00 / Nashville '03 / St. Louis '04 / Nashville Ryman N1 '09 (EV solo) / Nashville Ryman N2 '09 (EV solo) / Memphis '09 (EV solo) / New Orleans Jazzfest '10 / St Louis '10 / Memphis '12 (EV solo) / Memphis '14 / Boston Fenway N1 '16 / Boston Fenway N2 '16 / Chicago Wrigley N1 '18 / Chicago Wrigley N2 '18 / Ottawa '22 / Quebec City '22 / Nashville '22 / St Louis '22
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The issue today is that we have the ability to prevent transmission. The influenza flu pandemic 1918 killed an estimated 50+ million people world wide. A few reasons this was so widespread was because of lack of knowledge. People in Chicago had more knowledge of the sickness than say people in Philadelphia. So there was no panic in Philadelphia when they threw a huge parade. A large group of people, in close contact, during a pandemic. Look up the numbers for Philly during that time. News didn't travel so fast back then. Obviously today, prevention efforts and knowledge is readily available. It would be wise to use those tools.
Bingo.
Memphis '94 / Charlotte '96 / Birmingham '98 / Knoxville '98 / Memphis '00 / Nashville '00 / Nashville '03 / St. Louis '04 / Nashville Ryman N1 '09 (EV solo) / Nashville Ryman N2 '09 (EV solo) / Memphis '09 (EV solo) / New Orleans Jazzfest '10 / St Louis '10 / Memphis '12 (EV solo) / Memphis '14 / Boston Fenway N1 '16 / Boston Fenway N2 '16 / Chicago Wrigley N1 '18 / Chicago Wrigley N2 '18 / Ottawa '22 / Quebec City '22 / Nashville '22 / St Louis '22
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Positive tests are going to flow in this next week :(. ..... now that the CDC is actually starting to do their jobs.
Positives in an Oregon elementary school ( staff) , two in WA including a Seattle children's hospital, 700 people in quarantine in MA, possible case in Brooklyn released without testing.....
Mistakes like this by the CDC are what is going to cause this to become a full blown epidemic here:
to suggest that Americans turn off their TVs and bury their heads in the sand when they're worried about a global health pandemic is Orwellian, counterproductive, dangerous, and would be repeating China's mistake,"
In positive news if China's numbers are correct their numbers have started to swing the other way. Hopefully South Korea and Italy can get there as well and China remains on this course. Long term this is the news we want to be hearing.
THAT SAID: I felt it was prudent to try to raise awareness to discuss the possibility this event could interrupt some or all shows. I'm glad some folks understood that initially and I'm glad even more do now.
You holdouts, I ain't mad at ya.
Let's all just Keep our fingers crossed this tapers off, stays chill, and THE SHOWS GO ON! 🤘🏼
Agreed, I think the main problem lies within the testing as many people are being checked when they have "symptoms" that are just that of a common cold or the flu. And I am not downplaying the severity of the matter of it whatsoever, it's good that the precautions are being taken, it's a situation that none of us have faced ever. I have tickets to Toronto and Los Angeles which is sandwiched in between of tickets to both weekends of Coachella. People there don't know what to think/do, I'm pretty much content to the cards will fall where they may, just hoping for a good outcome and preferably a few weeks heads up on if the events will take place. Okeechobee Music Festival is set to take place next weekend in Florida and Ultra Music Festival is in Miami 2 days after Pearl Jam's tour is set to kick off, those events should give an indication on where we are heading (forgot to mention the effect that NCAA March Madness could play into all of this). Come April, if Coachella is cancelled I would assume we would be at the point that the Masters were as well plus any concerts including the NBA Playoffs.
03/20/94 - Ann Arbor 09/22/96 - Toledo 10/16/14 - Detroit 09/26/21 - Dana Point 10/01/21 - Dana Point 10/02/21 - Dana Point 05/06/22 - Los Angeles 05/07/22 - Los Angeles 07/03/22 - Stockholm 07/05/22 - Copenhagen 09/08/22 - Toronto 09/16/22 - Nashville 09/18/22 - St. Louis 09/20/22 - OKC 09/05/23 - Chicago 09/07/23 - Chicago
"Hoax". This is why we are in a much worse position than we ever should be. Testing is what other countries are doing, London has a drive thru test site, not the US. Questioning why we have so few tests for a pandemic, but we have a space force and are increasing nukes is legitimate. Priorities and logic are currently fucked and true knowledge is ridiculed. How can we be confident that this will be handled in an organized and safe manner?
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I'm not personally freaked about this as it seems to be similar mortality as other bad pandemics, but global leaders are going to be wanted to be seen as proactive in this case as the risk is very real if not taken seriously.
2003-05-30 - Vancouver, BC, General Motors Place
2005-09-04 - Calgary, AB, Pengrowth Saddledome
2005-09-05 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
2009-08-08 - Calgary, AB, Canada Olympic Park
2009-09-21 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
2009-09-22 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
2011-09-23 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
2013-11-30 - Spokane, WA, Spokane Arena
2006-5-09 Toronto
2007-8-03 (ed w/ ben harper) chicago / 2007-8-05 chicago
2008-8-12 (ed solo) toronto
2009-10-08 (ed solo) Albany
2011-9-11 Toronto / 2011-9-12 Toronto
2013-7-16 London, ON / 2013-7-19 Chicago / 2013-10-12 Buffalo
2016-5-11 Toronto, On / 2016-5-13 Toronto, On
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
Thus far all the data for COVID implies it is harshly discriminatory.
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
As for the Europe tour I would not use what they are doing right now and think that will in anyway be a predictor for the summer tour. If anything precautionary measures being made today bode well for a tour in the summer minimizing the spread of the virus and hopefully make for a quicker recovery in the coming months.
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
10 points if anyone can spot me in the crowd.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
No gatherings
No offices (work remotely?)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/uk-two-more-patients-in-england-test-positive-for-coronavirus
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I have been trying to point out the significance of this virus for a while now. I get why some folks mock it. They don't understand it and they don't want to. They want to see Pearl Jam.
Strong 2nd Amendment supporter and advocate targeted methods of reducing gun violence, sans-infringement.
Strong 2nd Amendment supporter and advocate targeted methods of reducing gun violence, sans-infringement.
Mistakes like this by the CDC are what is going to cause this to become a full blown epidemic here:
https://abc7ny.com/5974999/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
ugh...
Strong 2nd Amendment supporter and advocate targeted methods of reducing gun violence, sans-infringement.
If people dont want to look at this. More fool them.
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
09/22/96 - Toledo
10/16/14 - Detroit
09/26/21 - Dana Point
10/01/21 - Dana Point
10/02/21 - Dana Point
05/06/22 - Los Angeles
05/07/22 - Los Angeles
07/03/22 - Stockholm
07/05/22 - Copenhagen
09/08/22 - Toronto
09/16/22 - Nashville
09/18/22 - St. Louis
09/20/22 - OKC
09/05/23 - Chicago
09/07/23 - Chicago
This is why we are in a much worse position than we ever should be. Testing is what other countries are doing, London has a drive thru test site, not the US. Questioning why we have so few tests for a pandemic, but we have a space force and are increasing nukes is legitimate. Priorities and logic are currently fucked and true knowledge is ridiculed. How can we be confident that this will be handled in an organized and safe manner?