It is interesting how people are totally okay with a virus that kills 2 out of every 100 people getting into the US because the flu also kills people. Like we shouldn’t try to stop something because other things might kill us anyway.
It’s a fluid situation, and not one that most of us are qualified to predict.
For the NA tour, I take some comfort from the fact that a PJ show is no different from an NHL or NBA game, in terms of venue/crowd gathering, and it seems unlikely the leagues will suspend operations next month. And if they do, that would mean the health risk is so high that concerts should be the furthest thing from our minds.
Wouldn’t there be a lot more people at a PJ show with all the floor seats? But I see your point, of they cancel concerts we’d be pretty close to a large quarantine.
Not that its a perfect comparison, but concerts and sporting events werent all cancelled in Toronto during the 2003 Sars outbreak. I remember going to shows at the Scotiabank arena (then the Air Canada Centre) right in the middle of it. Lots of people wore masks on the subway and on the streets, but life still went on.
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I would say there is nothing anyone can do right now and hope this does not become a pandemic , also please note the CDC puts out alerts on anything , same with SARS ( they said be prepared for disruption in the US ) , I am not saying it is not possible but they are also not saying this is certain right now but we should be prepared.
Also I have to say I find it a little funny that the idea of a global pandemic that some think could kill 2% of the population and the biggest concern is if you get to see Pearl Jam or not.
It is interesting how people are totally okay with a virus that kills 2 out of every 100 people getting into the US because the flu also kills people. Like we shouldn’t try to stop something because other things might kill us anyway.
I dont think that is what anyone is saying. I read it as some people are treating this like the next plaque but at the same time no one is worried daily about the flu. Seems out of proportion. Others claiming it has a much higher death rate than the flu and we should be freaking out. I am in the camp where I say its scary because we just don't know yet. We can't trust the numbers in China. The number of infected may actually be much higher, which would make the death percentage meaningless.
Either way, it would suck to have to now fight 2 different "flus" every year that never go away, even if the death rate ends up being lower on this one. That seems like a likely outcome from what I've read and heard.
I'm keeping up on this pretty closely because I'm leaving for Japan in a couple of weeks. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in the discussion. It's either the scariest thing ever or no big deal at all.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
I'm keeping up on this pretty closely because I'm leaving for Japan in a couple of weeks. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in the discussion. It's either the scariest thing ever or no big deal at all.
Yeah, there’s no discussion of the middle ground because it’s boring. Stay reasonably current with the news, pay attention to public health officials, and otherwise keep living life. I’d venture to say that this is what most of us are doing, but I guess some people find it much more interesting to discuss the extremes.
I'm keeping up on this pretty closely because I'm leaving for Japan in a couple of weeks. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground in the discussion. It's either the scariest thing ever or no big deal at all.
Yeah, there’s no discussion of the middle ground because it’s boring. Stay reasonably current with the news, pay attention to public health officials, and otherwise keep living life. I’d venture to say that this is what most of us are doing, but I guess some people find it much more interesting to discuss the extremes.
Agree with the middle ground being more of the silent type on this. Wait and see and hope for the best for the tour and more importantly everyone's health and well being.
Also I have to say I find it a little funny that the idea of a global pandemic that some think could kill 2% of the population and the biggest concern is if you get to see Pearl Jam or not.
Right. The bigger concern should ne whether any of the 2% would be low member number 10 clubbers and how much our seniority could improve.
It is interesting how people are totally okay with a virus that kills 2 out of every 100 people getting into the US because the flu also kills people. Like we shouldn’t try to stop something because other things might kill us anyway.
I'd be a lot less worried if we had an administration we could trust, but they'll lie because they're more concerned about reversing the dropping stock market than containing this thing.
It is interesting how people are totally okay with a virus that kills 2 out of every 100 people getting into the US because the flu also kills people. Like we shouldn’t try to stop something because other things might kill us anyway.
there is literally nothing you can other than wrap yourself in a bubble or wait and follow guidelines. It is not a matter of being okay, it is a virus of the same family of virus as the common cold, it will spread, no matter what. Also the 2% mortality rate is compromised by the fact that data is fast moving and wait for it... this is a novel virus. ie it is NEW. the flash point of fear would be if the mortality rate of those infected was starting to rise and the virus was particularly fast mutating and changing. Their is no evidence at all of the latter yet.
I wasn’t concerned about the corona virus until yesterday. I think there is a decent chance this could impact the tour. This virus mostly effects people 35+ which is the band and the population attending the show. Not good.
Will post my St Louis floor seats on F2F then and see Baby Shark Live instead
I'd be a lot less worried if we had an administration we could trust, but they'll lie because they're more concerned about reversing the dropping stock market than containing this thing.
I would say there is nothing anyone can do right now and hope this does not become a pandemic , also please note the CDC puts out alerts on anything , same with SARS ( they said be prepared for disruption in the US ) , I am not saying it is not possible but they are also not saying this is certain right now but we should be prepared.
Also I have to say I find it a little funny that the idea of a global pandemic that some think could kill 2% of the population and the biggest concern is if you get to see Pearl Jam or not.
The question in the thread was whether we thought Coronavirus would impact the PJ tour. One could have asked the same question in 2015 about whether terrorism would impact the band touring in Europe (it did). It didn't mean anyone thought the concerts were a bigger deal than terrorism (or in this case coronavirus). Asking the question probably means that you are more concerned about coronavirus versus the "this ain't no big deal, only 10% of the world population is quarantined" crowd.
They have cancelled the Ireland v Italy rugby game in 2 weeks. St Patrick's day might possibly follow suit. Then we have the Euros too in June July. Who knows what might happen. If it gets worse by summer the tour will be 100% cancelled. Even the slightest risk cannot be taken with Corna. I hope to god its stopped and vaccinated against. The various governments are very worried About 'mass gatherings' of people
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People really need to pay attention..
Some of you can't even win a lottery with a 68% chance but this is gonna get you?
:puts tinfoil hat on:
Also none of you find it suspicious that the CDC is issuing these stern warnings after proposed cuts to their budget?
But I see your point, of they cancel concerts we’d be pretty close to a large quarantine.
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2007-8-03 (ed w/ ben harper) chicago / 2007-8-05 chicago
2008-8-12 (ed solo) toronto
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2011-9-11 Toronto / 2011-9-12 Toronto
2013-7-16 London, ON / 2013-7-19 Chicago / 2013-10-12 Buffalo
2016-5-11 Toronto, On / 2016-5-13 Toronto, On
I would say there is nothing anyone can do right now and hope this does not become a pandemic , also please note the CDC puts out alerts on anything , same with SARS ( they said be prepared for disruption in the US ) , I am not saying it is not possible but they are also not saying this is certain right now but we should be prepared.
Also I have to say I find it a little funny that the idea of a global pandemic that some think could kill 2% of the population and the biggest concern is if you get to see Pearl Jam or not.
I am in the camp where I say its scary because we just don't know yet. We can't trust the numbers in China. The number of infected may actually be much higher, which would make the death percentage meaningless.
Either way, it would suck to have to now fight 2 different "flus" every year that never go away, even if the death rate ends up being lower on this one. That seems like a likely outcome from what I've read and heard.
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The question in the thread was whether we thought Coronavirus would impact the PJ tour. One could have asked the same question in 2015 about whether terrorism would impact the band touring in Europe (it did). It didn't mean anyone thought the concerts were a bigger deal than terrorism (or in this case coronavirus). Asking the question probably means that you are more concerned about coronavirus versus the "this ain't no big deal, only 10% of the world population is quarantined" crowd.
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