"Gigaton" and its tracks on the charts

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Week 4 updates completed.

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Updated for all charts except Hot Rock Songs and Rock Digital Song Sales.

"Superblood Wolfmoon" added.

what dreams

It's hard to believe the song was released five weeks ago. Where does time go?

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Update completed.

The Juggler

I don't follow this stuff any more. It seems like Dance has petered out a bit? I don't expect SBWM to have any impact what so ever.

I am curious how Dance compares with other new music from PJ's contemporaries though? Could you give us some comparisons if you have the time?

Thanks!

igotid88

The Juggler said:

I don't follow this stuff any more. It seems like Dance has petered out a bit? I don't expect SBWM to have any impact what so ever.

I am curious how Dance compares with other new music from PJ's contemporaries though? Could you give us some comparisons if you have the time?

Thanks!

Green Day's single Oh Yeah which wasn't well received has gone up the charts. When it looked like it was also going to do nothing. But they've been promoting like crazy 

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In its sixth week, Green Day's "Oh Yeah" moves up to No. 6 on the Alternative chart, No. 7 on the Mainstream Rock chart and No. 2 on Rock Airplay.  In its sixth week, "Clairvoyants" drops to No. 19 on Alternative, No. 26 Mainstream and No. 14 Rock Airplay.

There really isn't anyone else on the charts right now that is a "contemporary" of Pearl Jam's.  If you're talking about other rock bands with large fan bases, Coldplay's "Orphans" hit No. 1 on the Alternative chart and is still on the chart after 19 weeks.  If you consider the Strokes a "contemporary"-- albeit one that never had the commercial success of Pearl Jam or Coldplay-- their "Bad Decisions" is just impacting the charts now.

Dlmartin1984

The song has steadily been climbing on AltNation on SiriusXM. This week it was #3. If you aren’t familiar with the station, they are notoriously way out(months) in front of alternative/alt rock long before songs hit local radio waves. 

The Juggler

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In its sixth week, Green Day's "Oh Yeah" moves up to No. 6 on the Alternative chart, No. 7 on the Mainstream Rock chart and No. 2 on Rock Airplay.  In its sixth week, "Clairvoyants" drops to No. 19 on Alternative, No. 26 Mainstream and No. 14 Rock Airplay.

There really isn't anyone else on the charts right now that is a "contemporary" of Pearl Jam's.  If you're talking about other rock bands with large fan bases, Coldplay's "Orphans" hit No. 1 on the Alternative chart and is still on the chart after 19 weeks.  If you consider the Strokes a "contemporary"-- albeit one that never had the commercial success of Pearl Jam or Coldplay-- their "Bad Decisions" is just impacting the charts now.

I’m not even aware of Green Day’s new song. How have they been promoting it? Late night shows? 

Why the hell doesn’t PJ promote this song/upcoming album? I don’t get it. 

KN219077

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

jimjam1982

Green Day is probably spending money to promote their album and songs because their upcoming tour was too ambitious and there are a ton of empty seats at these stadiums. Green Day was down to pay for promotion or play half full stadiums.

PJ doesnt need to spend any money doing that. The fanbase will carry the album sales and the tour is almost sold out except some behind the stage upper deck seats at a few shows.

NEweather

KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

( yeah- kinda listen to radio-but it's past the time for a revolution with radio. Bust outta the "formula-genre - this is what the masses want"  corp. decisions".  Break it Open-I know you can...I can feel it. )

The Juggler

KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

I don't know...pride plays a factor too. I remember being at the show the week Lightning Bolt debuted at #1. Ed spent a considerable amount of time gloating about it...It still means a lot to them. How could it not, if you used to be as big as they were?

radar

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Polish Radio LP3: 1st place (as of February 16th)
https://www.polskieradio.pl/9,Trojka/340,LP3

Two weeks later and DOTC remains on the first place in Polish radio 

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KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

Yes!  Believe it or not, the aggregate radio audience is still much larger than the streaming audience.  (One illustration: the number one song at radio this week had a total audience of 101 million.  The most-streamed song was streamed 48 million times.)  Radio is free and it is everywhere.  People listen in cars, homes, offices, restaurants, etc.

Artists still receive royalties when songs are played on the radio or streamed, so it's not like there's no financial incentive to get your song played and streamed.  Plus, hits have a long shelf life and generate revenue essentially forever, so it's very lucrative to have hits.  Granted, Pearl Jam is not really in the business of making "hits," per se.

Just to give you an example of this in practice, Arizona Zervas got a $12 million deal on the strength of his hit "Roxanne."  The general feeling in the industry is that it's a good deal for the record company even if he never has another hit because that one hit will generate revenue for years-- royalties, film/TV synchs, publishing, etc.

KN219077

Great response! I wasn’t being as sarcastic as that question sounded. I listen to the radio, but I also still buy cd’s...so I’m not the right person to ask. Young people own a shockingly low amount of music, I’m probably in that last generation that isn’t procuring their music through a subscription.

KN219077

The Juggler said:

KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

I don't know...pride plays a factor too. I remember being at the show the week Lightning Bolt debuted at #1. Ed spent a considerable amount of time gloating about it...It still means a lot to them. How could it not, if you used to be as big as they were?

Absolutely ! DMB even gave away free albums with a ticket to their summer tour to ensure 8 straight number one albums and securing the record.

igotid88

KN219077 said:

The Juggler said:

KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

I don't know...pride plays a factor too. I remember being at the show the week Lightning Bolt debuted at #1. Ed spent a considerable amount of time gloating about it...It still means a lot to them. How could it not, if you used to be as big as they were?

Absolutely ! DMB even gave away free albums with a ticket to their summer tour to ensure 8 straight number one albums and securing the record.

Starting this year Billboard won't count those anymore. Also artists have where you buy merch and get a digital download of the album.  I think those won't count anymore 

KN219077

igotid88 said:

KN219077 said:

The Juggler said:

KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

I don't know...pride plays a factor too. I remember being at the show the week Lightning Bolt debuted at #1. Ed spent a considerable amount of time gloating about it...It still means a lot to them. How could it not, if you used to be as big as they were?

Absolutely ! DMB even gave away free albums with a ticket to their summer tour to ensure 8 straight number one albums and securing the record.

Starting this year Billboard won't count those anymore. Also artists have where you buy merch and get a digital download of the album.  I think those won't count anymore 

I don’t think they should count, it’s kind of a lame way to get a number one album.  DMB would have likely got it anyway based on their track record. It will be interesting to see if Gigaton sells more than 150-200k in its first week.

The Juggler

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KN219077 said:

I’m guessing because album sales are such a minimal percentage of an artists income that they’d probably rather just not. Do people still listen to the radio?

Yes!  Believe it or not, the aggregate radio audience is still much larger than the streaming audience.  (One illustration: the number one song at radio this week had a total audience of 101 million.  The most-streamed song was streamed 48 million times.)  Radio is free and it is everywhere.  People listen in cars, homes, offices, restaurants, etc.

Artists still receive royalties when songs are played on the radio or streamed, so it's not like there's no financial incentive to get your song played and streamed.  Plus, hits have a long shelf life and generate revenue essentially forever, so it's very lucrative to have hits.  Granted, Pearl Jam is not really in the business of making "hits," per se.

Just to give you an example of this in practice, Arizona Zervas got a $12 million deal on the strength of his hit "Roxanne."  The general feeling in the industry is that it's a good deal for the record company even if he never has another hit because that one hit will generate revenue for years-- royalties, film/TV synchs, publishing, etc.

I can't be the only person who had to google "Arizona Zervas" right?