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brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.Or do what Wavy Gravy did and name the boy something beyond gender neutral: Howdy Do-Good Gravy Tomahawk Truckstop Romney.It seems fucked up to me to not acknowledge a kids gender. Why set them up to have their heads messed with that way? That doesn't mean you can't let them express themselves in individual ways. As a toddler, I had a girl doll for a few years, a typical "girls toy". I didn't care, I liked dragging it around along with my blanket. I was Schroeder with a doll. Some time later on, I discovered that it was more interesting to make model airplanes, attach them to a string, and fly them around in a circle with lit firecrackers attached to the fuselage. Given the chance, kids figure out what shit works for them.0 -
cincybearcat said:ecdanc said:cincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:dignin said:HughFreakingDillon said:Spiritual_Chaos said:HughFreakingDillon said:to me, the infinitesimal reality of your child wanting/needing to transition at some point in life does not require everyone to start from a position of neutrality. as mcgruff said, i think that could be incredibly confusing to a kid who by default is highly likely going to identify as the traditional gender that goes with the biological sex they are born with.
to me that's like preparing your budget based on the possibility of winning the lottery. it just doesn't make sense.
we as a society have a long way to go in acceptance and normalization of those that want/need this in their lives, but I think it could be detrimental long term for everyone to take this road.
I have problems seeing the big deal here.
I mean. My niece loved Frozen. And I thought she still did. Then she said she HATED FROZEN and only loved pokemon. So I adjusted and started teasing her about her still having Olaf bedsheets.
But I already stated: starting from a point of neutrality, where 99.9% of all other kids are one or the other, could be incredibly harmful. The benefits just do not outweigh the cons on this. I think neutral gender kids could end up being confused when there was no actual need for it to begin with.
and I can't imagine having a FORCED identity crisis at 5 years old when I wouldn't have had one to begin with.Gotta give the guy a break though, 1st kid, 9 months I think? Regardless very young. He had no clue. It’s all Parenting book bullshit.
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ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.
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ecdanc said:cincybearcat said:ecdanc said:cincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:dignin said:HughFreakingDillon said:Spiritual_Chaos said:HughFreakingDillon said:to me, the infinitesimal reality of your child wanting/needing to transition at some point in life does not require everyone to start from a position of neutrality. as mcgruff said, i think that could be incredibly confusing to a kid who by default is highly likely going to identify as the traditional gender that goes with the biological sex they are born with.
to me that's like preparing your budget based on the possibility of winning the lottery. it just doesn't make sense.
we as a society have a long way to go in acceptance and normalization of those that want/need this in their lives, but I think it could be detrimental long term for everyone to take this road.
I have problems seeing the big deal here.
I mean. My niece loved Frozen. And I thought she still did. Then she said she HATED FROZEN and only loved pokemon. So I adjusted and started teasing her about her still having Olaf bedsheets.
But I already stated: starting from a point of neutrality, where 99.9% of all other kids are one or the other, could be incredibly harmful. The benefits just do not outweigh the cons on this. I think neutral gender kids could end up being confused when there was no actual need for it to begin with.
and I can't imagine having a FORCED identity crisis at 5 years old when I wouldn't have had one to begin with.Gotta give the guy a break though, 1st kid, 9 months I think? Regardless very young. He had no clue. It’s all Parenting book bullshit.
2) Maybe listen as much as you like to talkhippiemom = goodness0 -
mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.0 -
cincybearcat said:ecdanc said:cincybearcat said:ecdanc said:cincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:dignin said:HughFreakingDillon said:Spiritual_Chaos said:HughFreakingDillon said:to me, the infinitesimal reality of your child wanting/needing to transition at some point in life does not require everyone to start from a position of neutrality. as mcgruff said, i think that could be incredibly confusing to a kid who by default is highly likely going to identify as the traditional gender that goes with the biological sex they are born with.
to me that's like preparing your budget based on the possibility of winning the lottery. it just doesn't make sense.
we as a society have a long way to go in acceptance and normalization of those that want/need this in their lives, but I think it could be detrimental long term for everyone to take this road.
I have problems seeing the big deal here.
I mean. My niece loved Frozen. And I thought she still did. Then she said she HATED FROZEN and only loved pokemon. So I adjusted and started teasing her about her still having Olaf bedsheets.
But I already stated: starting from a point of neutrality, where 99.9% of all other kids are one or the other, could be incredibly harmful. The benefits just do not outweigh the cons on this. I think neutral gender kids could end up being confused when there was no actual need for it to begin with.
and I can't imagine having a FORCED identity crisis at 5 years old when I wouldn't have had one to begin with.Gotta give the guy a break though, 1st kid, 9 months I think? Regardless very young. He had no clue. It’s all Parenting book bullshit.
2) Maybe listen as much as you like to talk0 -
ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.
He started a troll-thread about Sweden just because I didn't take his countless oneliner-baits about Sweden in the Democratic Nominee-thread.
This is his MO.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.
He started a troll-thread about Sweden just because I didn't take his countless oneliner-baits about Sweden in the Democratic Nominee-thread.
This is his MO.0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.
He started a troll-thread about Sweden just because I didn't take his countless oneliner-baits about Sweden in the Democratic Nominee-thread.
This is his MO.no, I suggested to you several times to start one. Seems to work well for our Canadian friends. You wouldnt, so I did. now we can all learn.I should hope you dont think my response.I started this thread to stop the hijato Annaflaks and your comments on the dental history wasnt trolling.I started this thread to stop the hijack of the dem thread. Id hoped this discussion would have included the sports angle or at a minimum the facts of biology and physiology.I find it strange though he'llmake statements here utilizing the language of the binary like straw man. surely an english professor could find some way get that point across using nonbinary language.he seems to want it both ways._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:Spiritual_Chaos said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.
He started a troll-thread about Sweden just because I didn't take his countless oneliner-baits about Sweden in the Democratic Nominee-thread.
This is his MO.no, I suggested to you several times to start one. Seems to work well for our Canadian friends. You wouldnt, so I did. now we can all learn.I should hope you dont think my response.I started this thread to stop the hijato Annaflaks and your comments on the dental history wasnt trolling.I started this thread to stop the hijack of the dem thread. Id hoped this discussion would have included the sports angle or at a minimum the facts of biology and physiology.I find it strange though he'llmake statements here utilizing the language of the binary like straw man. surely an english professor could find some way get that point across using nonbinary language.he seems to want it both ways.0 -
ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.0 -
ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.0 -
mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
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dignin said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
Even brought it up to discussion at lunch at work today.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
dignin said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
I'm glad you're finding that. Also there is as bunch of unnecessary shit here. didn't say all were.I appreciate your contributions @oftenreadings and those of that new to me or amt poster @amethgr8. Please keep it up.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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mickeyrat said:dignin said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
I'm glad you're finding that. Also there is as bunch of unnecessary shit here. didn't say all were.I appreciate your contributions @oftenreadings and those of that new to me or amt poster @amethgr8. Please keep it up.0 -
ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:dignin said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
I'm glad you're finding that. Also there is as bunch of unnecessary shit here. didn't say all were.I appreciate your contributions @oftenreadings and those of that new to me or amt poster @amethgr8. Please keep it up.who the fuck do you think you are?how about you post about the history of your evolution in thinking. hmm? might find it helpful to know your words and actions before, when the light bulb dimmer started being turned up. what happened to get you thinking maybe I had been wrong , your difficulty in moving from old to new thinking. how some of the major shifts occured if any. Whats your story human?As a member of AA , we find sharing how we did things far more helpful than saying you must do this or that. Its well I did this and came to this result.Attraction rather than promotion._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:dignin said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:HughFreakingDillon said:so claiming to be rejecting gender norms, which would include, but not limited to, clothing, appearance in general, toys, etc. yet, the choosing of the name needs to be gender neutral. why? if you are so progressive and smashing through the glass ceiling that is gender traditions, why go with what traditional gender roles define as a gender neutral name? isn't that going along with gender norms? what's wrong with cynthia or gladys as a name if the child chooses to be a boy? it shouldn't matter, after all, no matter what the child chooses, if the kid is perfectly comfortable in their own skin and identity at age 3, well, then, what's the problem?
and if the kid wants to change/choose their gender, why does name even matter? let the kid choose! i would imagine name is the least of the issues here.
just name it baby x until it's old enough to crawl to its preferred name on a flash card in between diaper changes.
If you’d ever like to return to a conversation with me, let me know. For now it seems you’re content to keep bludgeoning your straw man.no. I am mocking you. an admitted Man. An arrogant one at that.you want a world where gendered language is a thing of the past dont you? begin here.I noted your choice in not responding to my take on the snl pat character.ok. you dont buy it. will say kinda hard to catch things when I go to sleep and there 100 or more new garbage posts.NOT what I hoped this might be. so thanks for contributing to the shit show.
There were some great posts. Made me think more deeply about things.
I'm glad you're finding that. Also there is as bunch of unnecessary shit here. didn't say all were.I appreciate your contributions @oftenreadings and those of that new to me or amt poster @amethgr8. Please keep it up.who the fuck do you think you are?how about you post about the history of your evolution in thinking. hmm? might find it helpful to know your words and actions before, when the light bulb dimmer started being turned up. what happened to get you thinking maybe I had been wrong , your difficulty in moving from old to new thinking. how some of the major shifts occured if any. Whats your story human?As a member of AA , we find sharing how we did things far more helpful than saying you must do this or that. Its well I did this and came to this result.Attraction rather than promotion.0
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