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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,097
    edited March 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  
    Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

    Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
    Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.
    I never teach from my desk, I am always roaming around and interacting with the students.  last week I was like, fuck that!  I taught from my desk and set up a perimeter.  lol
    You snowflakes with your safe spaces :P 

    Edit: fully joking if unclear
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,365
    Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.
    Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
    Thanks


    Based on the last line of this article, it would appear to be just the Fed right now.

    "Some states are making changes due to the coronavirus. In California, individuals will have until June 15 to both file and pay their state taxes."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/treasury-secretary-says-tax-filing-deadline-moved-to-july-15/ar-BB11sUeS?ocid=ientp

    Thanks!
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,012
    Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.
    Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
    Thanks


    Based on the last line of this article, it would appear to be just the Fed right now.

    "Some states are making changes due to the coronavirus. In California, individuals will have until June 15 to both file and pay their state taxes."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/treasury-secretary-says-tax-filing-deadline-moved-to-july-15/ar-BB11sUeS?ocid=ientp

    Thanks!

    Don't take my word for any of this however, definitely do your own research!
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,383
    benjs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  
    Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

    Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
    Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.
    I never teach from my desk, I am always roaming around and interacting with the students.  last week I was like, fuck that!  I taught from my desk and set up a perimeter.  lol
    You snowflakes with your safe spaces :P 

    Edit: fully joking if unclear
    I am such a snowflake lol.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.
  • bbiggs said:
    When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

    I think there is a decent chance of this happening before Monday.
    However, without the govt taking the stance of calling off all payments/collections for things this very well could be the death knell for small business as we know it.
    A buddy who was the COO just facilitated a company-wide layoff, including himself.  The only chance they have to survive and resume services after this all sugars out -- and the only way people can continue to function is if the govt takes some drastic steps.

    Buckle up, folks. 

    I hope I am wrong.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,510
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?


    In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

    Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

     Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

    Make more sense now?


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    I get where your coming from, but your anger is misdirected going after an individual poster you know nothing about. You got it completely wrong with your comfort rants.

    So knock it off.

    you are still personally attacking someone who was at ground zero of this pandemic this week. Message received.
    Personally attacking? Not even close.

    We all have our own situations to deal with, it doesn't excuse your behavior. 
    For typing the word comfort? That's a "rant?" Considering where I've  been and what ive faced this week that could be taken as a personal attack. But I'm chilling. We are all facing stress. Most of us not from an ICU thankfully. 

    Misinformation and false sense of security is dangerous with a mostly asymptomatic & highly contagious disease.  Apparently that factual statement needs to still be said. That's a rant?

    One of the most dangerous rumors spreading currently is the " my friend is a doctor and he says this is overblown." Comments like those were rampant on this topic 36 hours ago. Am I ranting or stating facts?

    The Logans Run scenario, also prevalent on this topic, is also very dangerous.  Evidently the FL Republican governor agrees as he shut down the beaches that the young adults were packing this week. Are those rants or stating facts? 


  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,510
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    for perspective:
    SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths
    H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent
    Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent
    Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

    I don't trust the corona virus mortality rate, because we have no idea how many people have it. I expect the numbers in the US to sky rocket once more testing becomes available.

    That could be a double edged sword. The total cases will go up first as testing increases while the mortality rate declines. That could create false optimism as there is usually a 3 week window from positive test result to onset of severe symptoms.

    We need to be extremely careful and scientific in how we try to understand this crisis.
  • PapPap Posts: 28,733
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    bbiggs said:
    When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

    I think there is a decent chance of this happening before Monday.
    However, without the govt taking the stance of calling off all payments/collections for things this very well could be the death knell for small business as we know it.
    A buddy who was the COO just facilitated a company-wide layoff, including himself.  The only chance they have to survive and resume services after this all sugars out -- and the only way people can continue to function is if the govt takes some drastic steps.

    Buckle up, folks. 

    I hope I am wrong.

    There has to be a moratorium put in place.  It seems to be the only way to avoid a collapse on some level.
  • PapPap Posts: 28,733
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  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Posts: 1,019
    bbiggs said:
    When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.
    At Costco we've already put a limit on some food. Rice, milk, eggs etc.
    We limit how many people are in the warehouse at a time too but really we need to go to cardholder only. These groups of families coming in...jeesh. They bring all the kids and the grandparents. People here apparently just aren't understanding social distancing.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    bbiggs said:
    When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

    I think there is a decent chance of this happening before Monday.
    However, without the govt taking the stance of calling off all payments/collections for things this very well could be the death knell for small business as we know it.
    A buddy who was the COO just facilitated a company-wide layoff, including himself.  The only chance they have to survive and resume services after this all sugars out -- and the only way people can continue to function is if the govt takes some drastic steps.

    Buckle up, folks. 

    I hope I am wrong.
    First Merchants announced it is allowing 90 days of deferral, so hopefully they will do so on the business and property loan, that will help tremendously.
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,834
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 
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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,461
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 
    I‘ll be going out for fresh fruit at some point but other than that I‘ll avoid it as long as possible 
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,461
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    JPPJ84 said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?

    Good question.  I have no idea in this current environment.  Something to consider though.  Either way, we're not going anywhere after this run today, so hopefully we're able to dodge it.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,461
    bbiggs said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?

    Good question.  I have no idea in this current environment.  Something to consider though.  Either way, we're not going anywhere after this run today, so hopefully we're able to dodge it.
    I actually bought multivitamin tablets and juice in case fruit runs out and I don’t wanna go out. Doesn’t solve the eating fruit problem but at least I get the vitamin 
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JPPJ84 said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?
    We have a local one, which will hopefully be open this weekend.  Fortunately, I've had no problem getting fresh fruits and vegetables here. Local stores (within walking distance) are busy but not nuts...yet.

    If/when I next go to the market, all I can do is be super careful, DON'T TOUCH MY FACE (damn, that one is tough), and wash the fuck out of my hands when I get home.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,834
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Yeah I have a lot of canned food and stocked up on essentials like toothpaste, toilet paper, soap, etc. Basically the type of stuff that your run out of all the time and just run quickly to a CVS to buy. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,004
    hedonist said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?
    We have a local one, which will hopefully be open this weekend.  Fortunately, I've had no problem getting fresh fruits and vegetables here. Local stores (within walking distance) are busy but not nuts...yet.

    If/when I next go to the market, all I can do is be super careful, DON'T TOUCH MY FACE (damn, that one is tough), and wash the fuck out of my hands when I get home.
    Happy happy, washy washy!
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,004
    NY is on 100% lockdown.  Well reduced workforce.  

    Only essential workers needed.

    I actually have a job that is part of the infrastructure here so I can work at the office for a little while.  It's closing out but after that I don't have anything...
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I stocked up the moment the first case was reported in California. I knew this would happen. I want nothing to do with going to any grocery stores. Total petri dishes at this point. 

    We did the same with non-perishable foods, but we are in need of some other things at this point (fruits, veggies, etc.).  Obviously we could live without them, but it's hard to go on full blown boxed/ canned/ frozen food eating.  It sucks that making a "necessary" visit to the store for "essentials" carries such risk.
    Do you still have farmers markets on the weekend? Maybe that‘d be a better alternative?
    We have a local one, which will hopefully be open this weekend.  Fortunately, I've had no problem getting fresh fruits and vegetables here. Local stores (within walking distance) are busy but not nuts...yet.

    If/when I next go to the market, all I can do is be super careful, DON'T TOUCH MY FACE (damn, that one is tough), and wash the fuck out of my hands when I get home.
    Happy happy, washy washy!
    More like wishy washy :lol:
  • NY is on 100% lockdown.  Well reduced workforce.  

    Only essential workers needed.

    I actually have a job that is part of the infrastructure here so I can work at the office for a little while.  It's closing out but after that I don't have anything...

    Good luck, Chris, and the rest of you in NY. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    bbiggs said:
    Are you guys still making visits to stores as necessary or trying to avoid them?  My wife just ran to the store for some necessities and I feel like I'm sending her into battle, for lack of a better comparison.  So much risk just walking into the damn store right now.  Then you wait and hope no symptoms appear.
    I don’t believe in hoarding and just bought what the needed to begin with. Now nothing has been available, pasta, rice and most dry goods have been gone for over a week. 
    I’ve been going out more than I should probably, been going to Home Depot to stock up on supplies for projects I intend to do while in quarantine. I imagine at some point either those stores will close or it might get so bad I wont want to go out. 
    We have enough basics for about a week, if we can’t get toilet paper, dog food, and other food by then not sure what we’ll do. Order a bidet off amazon for starters. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,383
    We are good with non-perishables but will go out every few days to get bread, fruit and meat.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,543
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  
    Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

    Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
    Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.
    That's a pretty ignorant statement. Why even say such a thing? What does being home schooled have to do with illogical thinking? I think a better statement would have been, anyone who thinks schools won't help spread this must be a Trump supporter.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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