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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
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    Marin vs. Missouri

    There was a strange Covid-19 pattern in the U.S. for much of this spring. The virus was not spreading any faster in communities with low vaccination rates than in those with high vaccination rates.
    How could this have been? There were probably a few reasons. Many less vaccinated areas were in the South, where warm spring weather allowed people to socialize in the relative safety of the outdoors. Natural immunity might also have played a role — because people who have already had this coronavirus have at least some degree of protection against it.

    The pattern helped feed an impression among some Americans that Covid was in retreat, regardless of how much progress a community had made in getting shots into arms. In one poll of Tennessee residents last month, 51 percent agreed with the statement that “the Covid-19 pandemic is largely over.”
    But the pandemic is not over. Covid remains a serious threat to unvaccinated adults, especially those middle-aged or older. And now the surprising trends from the spring may be coming to an end: Cases have begun to rise more rapidly in communities with lower vaccination rates.

    Consider this chart, which looks at the number of new cases in counties across the U.S., grouping counties by the share of residents who have been fully vaccinated:
     

    By The New York Times | Sources: State, county and regional health departments


    A month ago, a chart like this would have looked almost random, with little relationship between caseloads and vaccination rates. Now, there is a clear relationship. (A recent Washington Post analysis came to the same conclusion.)
    The vaccines and Delta

    One likely explanation is that vaccination rates have risen high enough in some communities to crush the spread of Covid. In the spring, these places were still coping with significant outbreaks, but they aren’t anymore.
    In Marin County, just over the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco, for instance, more than 90 percent of people aged 12 and above have received at least one shot. As a result, Marin has virtually extinguished the virus, with only three new confirmed cases per day in recent weeks.

    A second explanation for the new divergence between more and less vaccinated places is the Delta variant. It appears to be making vaccination even more valuable. The vaccines are effective against Delta, sharply reducing the chances of infection and nearly eliminating any chance of serious illness. For unvaccinated people, however, Delta is significantly more contagious than earlier variants.
    Missouri offers the clearest example. Over the past week, it has reported more new Covid cases per capita than any other state, and they are concentrated in rural areas that have low vaccination rates, as Charles Gaba, a health care analyst, has noted. In the parts of the state with high vaccination rates — like the metro areas of Kansas City, St. Louis and Columbia — the number of new cases remains very low.

    Red America’s problem
    There is a political angle to these trends, of course. The places with the lowest vaccination rates tend to be heavily Republican. In an average U.S. county that voted for Donald Trump, only 34 percent of people are fully vaccinated, according to New York Times data. In an average country that voted for Joe Biden, the share is 45 percent (and the share that has received at least one shot is higher).

     

    By The New York Times | Sources: State, county and regional health departments; National Election Pool/Edison Research

    No wonder, then, that the number of new cases keeps falling in Biden counties, while it has begun to rise in Trump counties.

    In previous newsletters, I have pointed out some of the questionable ways that liberal communities have responded to the current phase of the pandemic, such as keeping schools partly closed and insisting on masks for the vaccinated. But conservative communities have their own problems with Covid behavior. Many Republican voters have not taken the disease very seriously and also have irrational fears about the vaccines.
    It’s too early to know whether the recent trends will continue and cases will continue to rise in communities with low vaccination rates. But further increases do seem to be the most likely scenario, based on the experience with Delta in other countries where it is already widespread. Worldwide, cases have risen in recent days, after having fallen for most of the past two months. (You can see the data here.)


    Vaccination is how this pandemic ends. And the Delta variant seems to be raising the human cost of vaccine skepticism.
    More on the virus:

    • Drug overdoses have surged during the pandemic. In response, the Biden administration is embracing harm reduction instead of abstinence, The Times’s Abby Goodnough reports.

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  • a child under 10 passed away from Covid here in winnipeg the other day. just heartbreaking. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    After how many ‘Muricans carried themselves and behaved over the past year and a half, I wouldn’t be eager to work in a public facing position either. People suck.
    No. Not at all. People are on vacation, at concerts, at the beach, shopping , flying, etc… people are making more staying home. That’s the one and only reason. 
    The one and only reason? That’s bs. It’s a reason but there are many others. 

    Like parents having to be home to look after kids who were not at school and for whom they could not find child care.

    Like health care workers who dealt with the stress and fear and pressure for a year and a half and decided it wasn’t worth it. 

    Like people who got laid off from their former positions when their workplaces closed and whose industries haven’t recovered yet. 

    Like people who left positions that pay much more than covid benefits due to daily harassment from customers or clients. 

    Those and other reasons weigh in just as much as the laziness that you assume
     

    Laziness I assume? What’s lazy about staying home and making more money than going to work? I’d take that deal any day. Working sucks. 
    Intake back “the one and only “ line. That is nonsense. There are other reasons as you stated. But IMO, this is the biggest reason. 


    Almost every small business in my neighborhood has a help wanted sign up, including mine. I would get applications the minute I would put that sign up. Now im lucky if one person comes in a week to inquire. I’ve never seen anything like it before. 
    It’s a joke. Nearly every fast food restaurant in my area has a help wanted sign offering $18 or $19/hr starting. meanwhile we extended the unemployment bonus again at the same time.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,853
    a child under 10 passed away from Covid here in winnipeg the other day. just heartbreaking. 
    This kind of shit kills my soul. As a father of 4 and lost 1 child you can never recover. Ever.
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    a child under 10 passed away from Covid here in winnipeg the other day. just heartbreaking. 
    This kind of shit kills my soul. As a father of 4 and lost 1 child you can never recover. Ever.
    Me too and I’m so sorry for your loss….and your right, the death of a child…worst thing in the world 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,853
    edited June 2021
    Thank you. I think at the time you go through it. As time goes by you  realise what its done to you. I went on to be brave enough to have a child with a new partner but its all at a cost. Mentally.  All we can do is love and love some more
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,720
    Thank you. I think at the time you go through it. As time goes by you  realise what its done to you. I went on to be brave enough to have a child with a new partner but its all at a cost. Mentally.  All we can do is love and love some more
    The Queen Said "Grief Is the Price We Pay for Love"Apr 17, 2021

    Although I’m sure you already knew that she said that but it’s so true that everyone should see it…..may god (whatever god) bless you with happiness forever.  
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,853
    I didn't  know that
    .wise words.  Love to your family
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,870
    edited June 2021
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Kat said:
    I wonder if this is even real?  It's like a Herman Cain incident.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    Kat said:
    I wonder if this is even real?  It's like a Herman Cain incident.
    There's no shortage of hits on google for "covid deniers who died", so even if this specific one isn't real, there are plenty others. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Kat said:
    I wonder if this is even real?  It's like a Herman Cain incident.
    There's no shortage of hits on google for "covid deniers who died", so even if this specific one isn't real, there are plenty others. 
    Interesting as it's not something I would have googled until you said something.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    Kat said:
    I wonder if this is even real?  It's like a Herman Cain incident.
    There's no shortage of hits on google for "covid deniers who died", so even if this specific one isn't real, there are plenty others. 
    Interesting as it's not something I would have googled until you said something.
    Likewise, nor would I; your comment is what motivated me to google it as well. 
  • i'm conflicted about this. I mean, no one wishes death on another. However, if stories like these are what it takes for these morons to get vaccinated, then so be it. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Preliminary data released yesterday from the ongoing Com-COV study in the UK confirms that mixing AZ and mRNA vaccines is effective, without unusual short term safety concerns. The order of dosing appears to matter, with the AZ-Pfizer combo seeming to provide more protection than Pfizer-AZ; two doses of mRNA vaccine still appears to provide the highest antibody levels, though actual field (infection) data over time will be needed.

    No mention of those horrific safety concerns claimed by that British scientist a few weeks ago and posted on here. 

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/mixing-vaccines-pfizer-astrazeneca-1.6083245
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    Kat said:
    If this is authentic, I feel terrible...for his daughter
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    The Delta variant is a big push to get your children vaccinated, please consider this before doing it.  Stay safe all, the push isn't over.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    The Delta variant is a big push to get your children vaccinated, please consider this before doing it.  Stay safe all, the push isn't over.


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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,853
    This is very upsetting indeed
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  • gotta admit, my 15 year old daughter getting her second shot july 5 weighs on me. however, I know the chances of myocarditis is extremely low. 
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    dankind said:
    "Or are we still celebrating Juneteenth?"

    The right will only make the virus political...  Wait, what's that?






  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    Someone's still struggling mightily to live their life. 
  • Someone's still struggling mightily to live their life. 

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