So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?
And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
Tried to stop at the supermarket for 3 items. It’s mobbed. People fighting, empty shelves, no Paper bags (plastic was banned 3/1), absolute chaos. So I’m thinking, what bought out the worst in people? a) covid-19 b) PJ lottery
Nah. Rangers season canceled so nothing better to do.
So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?
And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
My first good laugh in a few days. Wow. Thank you.
Not sure why LN keeps putting them in large venues. Jones Beach show has almost every seat available for sale. And that's not because of the virus! Poor Nickelback.
My company is implementing a recommended WFH beginning tomorrow.
I have a short commute and it's a fairly small office building with about 70 coworkers. Most people will be WFH. With this place empty I'm actually considering coming in for a few days per week for faster network and printing.
How nuts am I?
I would go in also when/if my office implements this. I work better sitting in the actual office. And have better equipment there for the shit I do.
And I would:
It's always interesting to me who feels more productive from home vs. office. As a nerd, I've always found my job is far easier in my own space where I can focus. If we do end up on WFH, what I'll miss most is my whiteboard, but my iPad will suffice I guess.
That's pretty funny sc and I'll probably do dance clairvoyantly on desks next week if I venture into the contagion
As far as more productive it's funny when I'm not in the office I find myself overthinking...how do I get that data, how do I filter, etc. Creature of habit in old age.
Are you in analytics too?
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Someone above mentioned the election, is it possible the election could be postponed or canceled?
If so I would just see even more chaos, this is getting REAL ugly REAL quick.
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I think it's time for me to turn off the news. Major news media is all about selling a story and with this virus, doing so in the best way they know how to incite fear and stir shit. And they are damn good at it.
I think it's time to start looking at this differently- realistically. The bottom line is, this virus is bad, it's going to spread more before it goes away, it's going to make a lot of people sick and most of us will likely know or know of someone who will die. But most people who get it will not die and the bigger concern right now is how people are reacting to it. And here is a letter that explains tha better than I can and I thin it is important to read this.
From Abdu Sharkawy
I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this
for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have
worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa.
HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough,
Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession.
And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling
vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of
Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious
agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds
in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who
are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer
mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I
am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of
reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a
spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything
that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I
am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent
care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare
providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee
lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am
scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks
they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter
what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure,
emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER
waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I
am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that
weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will
not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic
Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even imagine?
I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships
in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in
a global recession.
But mostly, I'm scared about what message
we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason,
rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic,
be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19
is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a
friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop
waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not
likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight
for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.
I
implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and
uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal
about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable
transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge
together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and
above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as
opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts. Our children will thank us for it.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Yes, many states have mail in voting. That's why CA takes so long to count all the vote. It is not a federal rule though, it's managed at the state level. There's also early voting where you can go to the court house or other places in your district and vote before election day. For me in VA, you just need a reason (for example, I was traveling on election day in '16 so I voted the weekend before).
I think it's time for me to turn off the news. Major news media is all about selling a story and with this virus, doing so in the best way they know how to incite fear and stir shit. And they are damn good at it.
I think it's time to start looking at this differently- realistically. The bottom line is, this virus is bad, it's going to spread more before it goes away, it's going to make a lot of people sick and most of us will likely know or know of someone who will die. But most people who get it will not die and the bigger concern right now is how people are reacting to it. And here is a letter that explains tha better than I can and I thin it is important to read this.
From Abdu Sharkawy
I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this
for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have
worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa.
HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough,
Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession.
And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling
vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of
Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious
agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds
in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who
are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer
mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I
am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of
reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a
spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything
that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I
am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent
care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare
providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee
lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am
scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks
they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter
what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure,
emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER
waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I
am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that
weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will
not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic
Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even imagine?
I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships
in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in
a global recession.
But mostly, I'm scared about what message
we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason,
rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic,
be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19
is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a
friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop
waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not
likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight
for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.
I
implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and
uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal
about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable
transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge
together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and
above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as
opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts. Our children will thank us for it.
Yes, many states have mail in voting. That's why CA takes so long to count all the vote. It is not a federal rule though, it's managed at the state level. There's also early voting where you can go to the court house or other places in your district and vote before election day. For me in VA, you just need a reason (for example, I was traveling on election day in '16 so I voted the weekend before).
Canada has made some Federal moves this morning: Canadians advised against all International travel
International flights will only be permitted to land at a smaller number of airports. Those locations have not yet been announced.
A ban on boats and cruise ships carrying more than 500 people from docking at Canadian ports until July.
A recommendation that all travellers arriving in Canada from international points self-isolate for 14 days
Edit: also said:
"We're in the midst of co-ordinating with the Americans, obviously, on our borders, on our actions. We'll continue to evaluate what we can do and how we can keep Canadians in security and we won't close the door on any idea."
Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights. I don't believe it, but that's the rumor. Makes no sense to kill domestic.
Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights. I don't believe it, but that's the rumor. Makes no sense to kill domestic.
that would be insane my son is down in Florida scheduled to be back here Sunday night, don’t wanna think about that scenario..
An emergency declaration also would put to rest weeks of debate within the White House, where different factions of Trump's top aides disagreed about whether a Stafford Act declaration is necessary.
Those opposed to making the declaration, which had included Trump himself, worried that it would cause financial markets to panic.
They also feared political fallout if it appeared Trump was sending the opposite message about coronavirus, namely that it is an emergency, from the one he had consistently delivered so far.
Trump has falsely claimed that coronavirus is no more dangerous than the common flu, and that it will likely disappear quickly and without a significant impact on American life.
Health officials say neither of these statements is accurate.
Canada has made some Federal moves this morning: Canadians advised against all International travel
International flights will only be permitted to land at a smaller number of airports. Those locations have not yet been announced.
A ban on boats and cruise ships carrying more than 500 people from docking at Canadian ports until July.
A recommendation that all travellers arriving in Canada from international points self-isolate for 14 days
Edit: also said:
"We're in the midst of co-ordinating with the Americans, obviously, on our borders, on our actions. We'll continue to evaluate what we can do and how we can keep Canadians in security and we won't close the door on any idea."
As far a travelling between provinces, Canadians are able to make appropriate decisions for our families. Regarding travelling across the border: Aligning efforts, and ongoing conversations to keep NA and Cdns safe. New NAFTA will receive Royal Assent quickly.
Edit: Also said our health advice (and not closing border to China flights) worked well. We are at 170 cases right now. Afternoon announcement coming for financial aid. Fiscal stimulus in coming days.
Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights. I don't believe it, but that's the rumor. Makes no sense to kill domestic.
Would it make more sense to require they limit capacity like movie theaters are doing? Squeezing three people next to each other seems like the sort of activity they're trying to avoid with all of these other social distancing measures.
We have to self isolate now. My daughters boyfriend is ill with fever and cough. She is at his house but came here 2 days ago and me and my 2 year old shared a cake with her.And her house . My son with asthma lives there. This just got very real.
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Katie Porter needs to be president one day.
Rock star for the people.
Nah. Rangers season canceled so nothing better to do.
LGI ;-)
I have streaming music services, you tube for live shows and access to hundreds of PJ shows. I'm good. Hip cranking now.
Not sure why LN keeps putting them in large venues. Jones Beach show has almost every seat available for sale. And that's not because of the virus! Poor Nickelback.
Edit: for mature content
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
If so I would just see even more chaos, this is getting REAL ugly REAL quick.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?
I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.
But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.
I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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I wouldn't put anything past this administration
it looks like national emergency is going to be declared today, which gives the president and the executive branch a lot power
- International flights will only be permitted to land at a smaller number of airports. Those locations have not yet been announced.
- A ban on boats and cruise ships carrying more than 500 people from docking at Canadian ports until July.
- A recommendation that all travellers arriving in Canada from international points self-isolate for 14 days
Edit: also said:"We're in the midst of co-ordinating with the Americans, obviously, on our borders, on our actions. We'll continue to evaluate what we can do and how we can keep Canadians in security and we won't close the door on any idea."
Trump plans to declare national emergency over coronavirus pandemic. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/trump-will-hold-a-press-conference-at-3-pm-et-to-discuss-coronavirus-response.html
An emergency declaration also would put to rest weeks of debate within the White House, where different factions of Trump's top aides disagreed about whether a Stafford Act declaration is necessary.
Those opposed to making the declaration, which had included Trump himself, worried that it would cause financial markets to panic.
They also feared political fallout if it appeared Trump was sending the opposite message about coronavirus, namely that it is an emergency, from the one he had consistently delivered so far.
Trump has falsely claimed that coronavirus is no more dangerous than the common flu, and that it will likely disappear quickly and without a significant impact on American life.
Health officials say neither of these statements is accurate.
Regarding travelling across the border: Aligning efforts, and ongoing conversations to keep NA and Cdns safe. New NAFTA will receive
Royal Assent quickly.
Edit: Also said our health advice (and not closing border to China flights) worked well. We are at 170 cases right now. Afternoon announcement coming for financial aid. Fiscal stimulus in coming days.
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