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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    Forget Sanders and Warren.

    Katie Porter needs to be president one day.

    Rock star for the people.


    http://youtu.be/Cq7lJD3yOOg
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    nicknyr15 said:
    Tried to stop at the supermarket for 3 items. It’s mobbed. People fighting, empty shelves, no Paper bags (plastic was banned 3/1), absolute chaos. So I’m thinking, what bought out the worst in people?
    a) covid-19
    b) PJ lottery 

    Nah. Rangers season canceled so nothing better to do.

    LGI ;-)
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,431
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    Forget Sanders and Warren.

    Katie Porter needs to be president one day.

    Rock star for the people.


    http://youtu.be/Cq7lJD3yOOg
    Are we voting for her or her superhero alter ego?


  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    Jason P said:
    No March Madness and everyone working from home ... hmmm ... I foresee the most productive March in the last 40 years. 


    I have streaming  music services, you tube for live shows and access to hundreds of PJ shows. I'm good. Hip cranking now.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well, I now have dicks on the brain.

    Thanks a lot, ya fuckers. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    nicknyr15 said:


    Not sure why LN keeps putting them in large venues. Jones Beach show has almost every seat available for sale. And that's not because of the virus! Poor Nickelback. 
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,634
    edited March 2020
    hedonist said:
    Well, I now have dicks on the brain.

    Thanks a lot, ya fuckers. 
    Yesterday they couldn't shut up about going down to shop for tp, too. Jeeze Loiuse!

    Edit: for mature content
    Post edited by Spunkie on
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    tish said:
    hedonist said:
    Well, I now have dicks on the brain.

    Thanks a lot, ya fuckers. 
    Yesterday they couldn't shut up about going down, too. Jeeze Loiuse!
    S'ok.  There's usually an up side to that :whistle:
  • KatKat Posts: 4,864
    edited March 2020
    REMINDER: See that first post on the AMT page? We are an all-ages forum. 

    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,130
    benjs said:
    My company is implementing a recommended WFH beginning tomorrow.

    I have a short commute and it's a fairly small office building with about 70 coworkers. 
    Most people will be WFH. With this place empty I'm actually considering coming in for a few days per week for faster network and printing.

    How nuts am I?
    I would go in also when/if my office implements this. I work better sitting in the actual office. And have better equipment there for the shit I do.

    And I would:


    It's always interesting to me who feels more productive from home vs. office. As a nerd, I've always found my job is far easier in my own space where I can focus. If we do end up on WFH, what I'll miss most is my whiteboard, but my iPad will suffice I guess.

    That's pretty funny sc and I'll probably do dance clairvoyantly on desks next week if I venture into the contagion 

    As far as more productive it's funny when I'm not in the office I find myself overthinking...how do I get that data, how do I filter, etc. Creature of habit in old age.
    Are you in analytics too? 
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839

    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    Someone above mentioned the election, is it possible the election could be postponed or canceled? 

    If so I would just see even more chaos, this is getting REAL ugly REAL quick.

    Peace
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    g under p said:
    Someone above mentioned the election, is it possible the election could be postponed or canceled? 

    If so I would just see even more chaos, this is getting REAL ugly REAL quick.

    Peace
    We could always do it online. I mean, what could go wrong?
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    Is there no postal vote in the US?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,955
    I think it's time for me to turn off the news.  Major news media is all about selling a story and with this virus, doing so in the best way they know how to incite fear and stir shit.  And they are damn good at it.

    I think it's time to start looking at this differently- realistically.  The bottom line is, this virus is bad, it's going to spread more before it goes away, it's going to make a lot of people sick and most of us will likely know or know of someone who will die.  But most people who get it will not die and the bigger concern right now is how people are reacting to it.  And here is a letter that explains tha better than I can and I thin it is important to read this.

    From Abdu Sharkawy

    I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

    I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

    What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

    I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
    imagine?

    I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

    But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

    Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

    I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

    Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
    Our children will thank us for it.


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    JPPJ84 said:
    Is there no postal vote in the US?
    Yes, many states have mail in voting.  That's why CA takes so long to count all the vote.  It is not a federal rule though, it's managed at the state level.  There's also early voting where you can go to the court house or other places in your district and vote before election day.  For me in VA, you just need a reason (for example, I was traveling on election day in '16 so I voted the weekend before).  


  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Good piece. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,405
    brianlux said:
    I think it's time for me to turn off the news.  Major news media is all about selling a story and with this virus, doing so in the best way they know how to incite fear and stir shit.  And they are damn good at it.

    I think it's time to start looking at this differently- realistically.  The bottom line is, this virus is bad, it's going to spread more before it goes away, it's going to make a lot of people sick and most of us will likely know or know of someone who will die.  But most people who get it will not die and the bigger concern right now is how people are reacting to it.  And here is a letter that explains tha better than I can and I thin it is important to read this.

    From Abdu Sharkawy

    I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

    I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

    What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

    I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
    imagine?

    I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

    But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

    Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

    I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

    Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
    Our children will thank us for it.


    I agree. Great post. Thank you fir posting. 
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    mrussel1 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    Is there no postal vote in the US?
    Yes, many states have mail in voting.  That's why CA takes so long to count all the vote.  It is not a federal rule though, it's managed at the state level.  There's also early voting where you can go to the court house or other places in your district and vote before election day.  For me in VA, you just need a reason (for example, I was traveling on election day in '16 so I voted the weekend before).  


    Ah ok, thanks. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,759
    That is a great post  brian. Im right with you my friend .Today its close to home . Things  have changed here now .
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    g under p said:
    Someone above mentioned the election, is it possible the election could be postponed or canceled? 

    If so I would just see even more chaos, this is getting REAL ugly REAL quick.

    Peace
    trump has been 'joking' about being a 3-term president for months now

    I wouldn't put anything past this administration

    it looks like national emergency is going to be declared today, which gives the president and the executive branch a lot power
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,634
    edited March 2020
    Canada has made some Federal moves this morning: Canadians advised against all International travel

    • International flights will only be permitted to land at a smaller number of airports. Those locations have not yet been announced.
    • A ban on boats and cruise ships carrying more than 500 people from docking at Canadian ports until July.
    • A recommendation that all travellers arriving in Canada from international points self-isolate for 14 days
    Edit: also said:

    "We're in the midst of co-ordinating with the Americans, obviously, on our borders, on our actions. We'll continue to evaluate what we can do and how we can keep Canadians in security and we won't close the door on any idea."
    Post edited by Spunkie on
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights.  I don't believe it, but that's the rumor.  Makes no sense to kill domestic.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,429
    mrussel1 said:
    Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights.  I don't believe it, but that's the rumor.  Makes no sense to kill domestic.  
    that would be insane my son is down in Florida scheduled to be back here Sunday night, don’t wanna think about that scenario..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,746
    And away we goooooo......

    Trump plans to declare national emergency over coronavirus pandemic. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/trump-will-hold-a-press-conference-at-3-pm-et-to-discuss-coronavirus-response.html

    An emergency declaration also would put to rest weeks of debate within the White House, where different factions of Trump's top aides disagreed about whether a Stafford Act declaration is necessary. 

    Those opposed to making the declaration, which had included Trump himself, worried that it would cause financial markets to panic.

    They also feared political fallout if it appeared Trump was sending the opposite message about coronavirus, namely that it is an emergency, from the one he had consistently delivered so far.
     

    Trump has falsely claimed that coronavirus is no more dangerous than the common flu, and that it will likely disappear quickly and without a significant impact on American life.


    Health officials say neither of these statements is accurate.

  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,634
    edited March 2020
    tish said:
    Canada has made some Federal moves this morning: Canadians advised against all International travel

    • International flights will only be permitted to land at a smaller number of airports. Those locations have not yet been announced.
    • A ban on boats and cruise ships carrying more than 500 people from docking at Canadian ports until July.
    • A recommendation that all travellers arriving in Canada from international points self-isolate for 14 days
    Edit: also said:

    "We're in the midst of co-ordinating with the Americans, obviously, on our borders, on our actions. We'll continue to evaluate what we can do and how we can keep Canadians in security and we won't close the door on any idea."
    As far a travelling between provinces, Canadians are able to make appropriate decisions for our families. 
    Regarding travelling across the border: Aligning efforts, and ongoing conversations to keep NA and Cdns safe. New NAFTA will receive 
    Royal Assent quickly. 

    Edit: Also said our health advice (and not closing border to China flights) worked well. We are at 170 cases right now. Afternoon announcement coming for financial aid. Fiscal stimulus in coming days. 
    Post edited by Spunkie on
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,431
    mrussel1 said:
    Friend of a friend that works in the WH saying Trump is going to kill domestic and int'l flights.  I don't believe it, but that's the rumor.  Makes no sense to kill domestic.  
    Would it make more sense to require they limit capacity like movie theaters are doing? Squeezing three people next to each other seems like the sort of activity they're trying to avoid with all of these other social distancing measures. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,759
    edited March 2020
    We have to self isolate now. My daughters boyfriend  is ill with fever and cough. She is at his house but came here 2 days ago and me and my 2 year old shared  a cake with her.And her house . My son with asthma  lives there.  This just got very real.
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