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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,061
    edited March 2020
    Should have elected Bernie in like 2000.

    That's just a given.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,061
    edited March 2020

    "We're gonna have a situation. where it's quite possible that you are gonna be able to track clusters [of infected] around the viewership of Fox News"


    https://youtu.be/3I17vKOhhFU
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,061
    edited March 2020


    So... for people who were gonna pick Trump over Sanders... would Bernie Bae do something on the level of this if he was in charge during an outbreak?

    Because this is like, being on the level of being impeached (again) ?! 

    And should be a surefire win for Biden, if true(?)
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    Well, the Governor of IL just spoke and we were expecting him to announce school closures across the state.  Shame on me for thinking he would make his first wise decision since being elected.  What a complete moron this clown is. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197


    So... for people who were gonna pick Trump over Sanders... would Bernie Bae do something on the level of this if he was in charge during an outbreak?

    Because this is like, being on the level of being impeached (again) ?! 

    And should be a surefire win for Biden, if true(?)
    Begin House investigation but don’t call it impeachment. Yet.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    My brother who works in the LA county sheriff dept just told me they canceled all vacation time and told everyone who is patrolled trained to be ready to be back on the street to prepare to enforce mass quarantines. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,659
    If anyone needed evidence that the narcissist-in-chief thinks only about himself and could care less about average Americans well here it is.....


  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    I heard testing is free for this.
    Sick time depends on employer and the person. I get 10 days a year. I switched districts this year so lost all my banked days, I have about 3 left. I would assume if I get it I get unpaid time off after I run out. That’s probably the case for most, don’t see why the government or employer needs to pay you for being sick.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,584
    Working with the public these days is so much fun.  It's like playing Russian Roulette with a 50 shooter and their telling me one chamber is empty!
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,286
    Tried to stop at the supermarket for 3 items. It’s mobbed. People fighting, empty shelves, no Paper bags (plastic was banned 3/1), absolute chaos. So I’m thinking, what bought out the worst in people?
    a) covid-19
    b) PJ lottery 
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,365
    mace1229 said:
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    I heard testing is free for this.
    Sick time depends on employer and the person. I get 10 days a year. I switched districts this year so lost all my banked days, I have about 3 left. I would assume if I get it I get unpaid time off after I run out. That’s probably the case for most, don’t see why the government or employer needs to pay you for being sick.
    I received this email from my medical insurance provider:

    If you are advised that you need to be tested for COVID-19, be assured that Medical Mutual will cover the test as long as it is ordered by a medical provider. In addition, we are waiving copays, coinsurance and deductibles for COVID-19 diagnostic testing.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    edited March 2020
    I thought it was crazy at Costco a week ago. I can’t imagine now. It’d be like the level of panic if all losers of the pj lotto got injected with covid-19
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,659
    Katie Porter should be heading the Govt coronavirus effort.....


  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,388
    edited March 2020
    BC being advised right now by our Health official not to travel out of Edit: country (not province) including US. Will have to isolate 14 days if we choose otherwise upon return home.

    250 or larger gatherings must be cancelled. 

    Schools not closing yet, but our 2 weeks Spring Break starts this Monday
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,844
    Katie Porter should be heading the Govt coronavirus effort.....


    The fact that this is even an issue is amazing. 

    Widespread testing and case finding is crucial to manage a pandemic. There is no legitimate reason that anyone can come up with that testing would not be free. 
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,170
    My cousin is Johannesburg Africa and I'm wondering upon her return will she be quarantined?

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Damn, way to go Porter!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
    This is what you get when you elect incompetents and incompetents hire people for key positions of importance. Team Trump Treason should have been pressed to direct Dr. Redfield to do what he ultimately agreed to do. Wake the fuck up America.
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,170
    Just got off the the phone with my GM of BJs where I'm a food specialist. He's says we have NO paper goods, bleach, detergent and lysol for days. 

    I haven't worked in a week (minor foot surgery, birthday). He said it's worse than when we have a major hurricane heading directly at us, was unaware that the situation was so out of hand. 

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,114
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    In Massachusetts there is no cost to the patient. Paid time off totally varies by person/employer. Many people have sick/vacation/flex time that they'd use.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,666
    Jason P said:
    Rudy Gobert will go down in the history books of mankind as the "Don't Be This Dumbass 'Guy'" for all future pandemics.  Just be a picture of Rudy with the Ghostbusters strike thru him ... like mathematics, the picture will transcend language as a warning to future generations ...
    His buffoonery actually may have saved a lot of lives. Started the sudden and drastic social distancing shift.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
    pjl44 said:
    So how does it work in the states - if one wants to get tested, is it free? Or does it cost, using ones own insurance or out of pocket if one doesn't have one?

    And if you have to take time off work because of it, will you get paid in any way while on sick leave? Depends on the union's agreement with the employer? Or depends on your own health insurance? Or is there a state funded pay for people who have to stay home because of being sick with this?
    In Massachusetts there is no cost to the patient. Paid time off totally varies by person/employer. Many people have sick/vacation/flex time that they'd use.
    I thought MA had passed a law whereas any employer with more than 10 employees had to pay or allow 5 paid sick days, track them and report it to the State on an annual basis? Did that not pass?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
    All employees entitled to 40 hours unpaid leave, employers with 11 or more have to give 40 hours paid as a minimum.

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  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,388
    g under p said:
    My cousin is Johannesburg Africa and I'm wondering upon her return will she be quarantined?

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    Where is she returning to? In BC it is not a quarantine it is a 14 day social isolation to lesson the spread to flatten the curve so to help the health care system with their anticipated high numbers.

  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mrussel1 said:
    tish said:
    myoung321 said:
    tish said:
    What would declaring a National Emergency do? I'm not versed much in US or global politics, nor economics.
     
    Myoung,

    Might I suggest you flag my posts so we can determine if they are fishing/trolling.

    Bernie Sanders said that he thinks the President should declare a National Emergency. This will invoke special powers. I think this would allow more power about situations over ships that fly non-US flags, such as Disney, who are not cancelling trips amidst social-distancing. 

    The cruise industry is quite relevant to the Covid discussion. I have learned that if Vancouver/Victoria shuts it's ports, that many US sailings cannot get to Alaska. This is why my upcoming US sailing (which will be postponed if it can't get cancelled) will stop in Mexico.


    I think most people here have pretty much said you should shutter the cruise.  It seems foolish. 
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    No March Madness and everyone working from home ... hmmm ... I foresee the most productive March in the last 40 years. 
  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    NCAA tournament canceled
    My children's school cancelled for two weeks, into spring break, so effectively 3. 
    I don't know what's taking NOVA so long. I have to go in tomorrow with students and then Monday for a teacher workday "training" on how to implement online learning (like one day will make me an expert). Then there's a plan to get all the kids into the library on Tuesday to check out two books each (like maybe 1/4 of my students will read them) . . . and then they'll cancel school, maybe? They're being really tight-lipped and coy about it, but all signs point to that direction.

    I'll be glad when it happens. I'm tired from spending my days teaching middle schoolers to quit touching each other, to sneeze in their sleeve, to stop licking their fingers and leaving their Hot Cheeto trash behind in their desk. Today I finally had to stop this year's chronic nose picker from putting the booger in his mouth. Seriously, I've been watching this boy eat his boogers all year long, discreetly offering him a tissue, but today I finally flipped. "KYLE!! USE A TISSUE!!" Then Kyle wipes his nose and booger finger with the tissue I gave him and PUTS THE DIRTY TISSUE IN HIS DESK. So, yes, I'm ready for school to close.

    At this rate, it's really a matter of time before I find out I have Corona. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    NCAA tournament canceled
    My children's school cancelled for two weeks, into spring break, so effectively 3. 
    I don't know what's taking NOVA so long. I have to go in tomorrow with students and then Monday for a teacher workday "training" on how to implement online learning (like one day will make me an expert). Then there's a plan to get all the kids into the library on Tuesday to check out two books each (like maybe 1/4 of my students will read them) . . . and then they'll cancel school, maybe? They're being really tight-lipped and coy about it, but all signs point to that direction.

    I'll be glad when it happens. I'm tired from spending my days teaching middle schoolers to quit touching each other, to sneeze in their sleeve, to stop licking their fingers and leaving their Hot Cheeto trash behind in their desk. Today I finally had to stop this year's chronic nose picker from putting the booger in his mouth. Seriously, I've been watching this boy eat his boogers all year long, discreetly offering him a tissue, but today I finally flipped. "KYLE!! USE A TISSUE!!" Then Kyle wipes his nose and booger finger with the tissue I gave him and PUTS THE DIRTY TISSUE IN HIS DESK. So, yes, I'm ready for school to close.

    At this rate, it's really a matter of time before I find out I have Corona. 
    I can't help laughing at this!  I think you need a Covid induced vacation. 

    So you know im in Henrico (Glen Allen).  Richmond did the same but Chesterfield and Hanover have not.  Im surprised because they're usually aligned.  I bet you guys are closed by next week.  NOVA should be worse than us due to your airports and metro alone.  We don't have that public transportation. 
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