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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    OnWis97 said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    Hopefully that holds true.  That said, I'm still thinking a dive inter herd immunity would be ill-advised.

    I’m not sure what you mean. As a policy decision, yes, it leaves something to be desired, but as reality, it’s probably where we’re heading. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
    even my truck wears a mask!!!


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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,304
    mickeyrat said:
    even my truck wears a mask!!!


    Wearing it wrong, should be pulled up over the nose.
    Your truck is a half-masker.  =)
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    even my truck wears a mask!!!


    Wearing it wrong, should be pulled up over the nose.
    Your truck is a half-masker.  =)

    it was outside with no car beside me.....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,823
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,776
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,304
    Kat said:
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
    Glad he whipped it.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,823
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

    not sure about that. I think it means your body can efficiently kill the virus once reinfected.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_(medical)

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,375
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,147
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

    I'm no expert, and I do not recall the source.  But the last I heard was that while anti-bodies do go away over time...that they are seeing the T cells in previously affected people remain increased...allowing more effective fighting off of any future exposure.  Still lots of time needed to truly understand.  But it was more hopeful than the data I had seen regarding anti-bodies

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,823
    Hi! said:

    Oh, but they will, they will.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,147
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hi! said:

    Oh, but they will, they will.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,837
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.

    Yeah.  So now my Q-following Facebook friends are parroting this 9,200 deaths figure that "the CDC quietly admitted to."  As far as I can tell, I could never be a part of that statistic, though. I have asthma and the new Trump CDC way of tallying would blame the asthma I've lived with my whole life, not the Covid I caught last month.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,776
    Poncier said:
    Kat said:
    Devo co-founder survived.

    Mark Mothersbaugh nearly died from COVID-19. FaceTiming with his family kept him alive

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-mothersbaugh-devo-covid-19-coronavirus
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,375
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.
    Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 
    But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

    Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.
    Def get what you mean! 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 
    It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 
    i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 
    The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 
    of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,041
    Does no one else have a force field? Weird....
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,776
    When we visited, I used to play in this park when I was a child. This is sad...we will not forget. 



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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,313
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 
    You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.
    I was wondering why it hurt when that bus hit me. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,375
    edited September 2020
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/coronavirus-vaccine-trump/2020/09/01/b44b42be-e965-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html?outputType=amp
    Ok since we’ve done such a great job on C19 why not go at it alone!
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,041
    Just to confuse a lot of people, I wish Pete Twonshend and Roger Daltrey would fund a vaccine. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,147
    mace1229 said:
    Just to confuse a lot of people, I wish Pete Twonshend and Roger Daltrey would fund a vaccine. 
    Who?
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