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mcgruff10 said:MayDay10 said:Like follow me here. The virus attacks the lungs, right. what if we removed the patient's lungs, then the virus would have nothing to attack and die off, right? Now Im not a doctor, but just really smart and can figure these things out. Dr Birx. Please look into the removal of patients lungs. right. OK.0
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mcgruff10 said:Bentleyspop said:50,000+ American deaths and many more to come
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Ray J. T. said:mcgruff10 said:MayDay10 said:Like follow me here. The virus attacks the lungs, right. what if we removed the patient's lungs, then the virus would have nothing to attack and die off, right? Now Im not a doctor, but just really smart and can figure these things out. Dr Birx. Please look into the removal of patients lungs. right. OK.
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tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
mace1229 said:Trumps comments did sound moronic. But I do love how him saying medical doctors should test if injecting disinfected is effective has turned into him telling people to drink bleach."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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jeffbr said:mace1229 said:Trumps comments did sound moronic. But I do love how him saying medical doctors should test if injecting disinfected is effective has turned into him telling people to drink bleach.
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jeffbr said:mace1229 said:Trumps comments did sound moronic. But I do love how him saying medical doctors should test if injecting disinfected is effective has turned into him telling people to drink bleach.
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mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
He is President of the United States. He needs to be held to that standard, not a lesser one where we dismiss what he says as crazy gibberish and then critique the media for how it covers him.
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Indifference71 said:MayDay10 said:
But Im thinking that they hold the hammer right now. If Birx and Fauci went a bit on the offensive right now, and Trump fired them (while things appear to be on a plateau or on a down-trend)... re-opened the country too early and finds horrific calamity. That is 100% on Trump. Birx and Fauci could blow the lid off the administration going anywhere they can to spread what should be done and how the administrating has and is failing. THEY hold the hammer. I saw the other day that Fauci had like an 80% approval rating and 7% disapproval.
Trump is going to open things too early either way. The only difference is, if Brix and Fauci are still there, he will fire them then and out-source the blame, which would cost them their huge credibility currency they have right now.0 -
mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
The media is saying, "He suggested it as a possible cure"
There are people that are reading/hearing that and saying, "he suggested people try it".
Just like, some poeple will actually try it.Turn this anger into
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Ray J. T. said:Bentleyspop said:50,000+ American deaths and many more to come
But let's drink household cleansersThis!AND, it made that drug less available for those who do need it for diseases not COVID-19 related. The man is a menace to society.
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Vedd Hedd said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
The media is saying, "He suggested it as a possible cure"
There are people that are reading/hearing that and saying, "he suggested people try it".
Just like, some poeple will actually try it.
Hilary tweeted don’t ingest chemicals because trump thinks it’s a good idea. False, he never told anyone.
If Lysol and Hilary and all the other media outlets weren’t trying to push an agenda (make Trump look even worse) wouldn’t they just tell the truth? It would be safer and more effective to just say “don’t invest anything. That is not what trump suggested so don’t try it!” Then add your 2 cents about how it won’t work anyway.
But just saying not to listen to trump and don’t drink bleach puts out a message that’s false.
I already said it comments were dumb. So I’m not defending him, I’m calling out those who aren’t accurately reporting the incident though.At this point I’ve repeated myself enough. I don’t agree with twisting someone’s words and misquoting him to make a dumb comment sound even worse, and then blame him when people listen to the false reporting. Many seem okay with it. That’s my opinion, everyone can have theirs.0 -
mace1229 said:Vedd Hedd said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
The media is saying, "He suggested it as a possible cure"
There are people that are reading/hearing that and saying, "he suggested people try it".
Just like, some poeple will actually try it.
Hilary tweeted don’t ingest chemicals because trump thinks it’s a good idea. False, he never told anyone.
If Lysol and Hilary and all the other media outlets weren’t trying to push an agenda (make Trump look even worse) wouldn’t they just tell the truth? It would be safer and more effective to just say “don’t invest anything. That is not what trump suggested so don’t try it!” Then add your 2 cents about how it won’t work anyway.
But just saying not to listen to trump and don’t drink bleach puts out a message that’s false.
I already said it comments were dumb. So I’m not defending him, I’m calling out those who aren’t accurately reporting the incident though.At this point I’ve repeated myself enough. I don’t agree with twisting someone’s words and misquoting him to make a dumb comment sound even worse, and then blame him when people listen to the false reporting. Many seem okay with it. That’s my opinion, everyone can have theirs.
The media isnt leaving out the word possible. Every article or clip i have read or seen is phrasing it correctly....then yes, opinion people say its dangerous to even suggest it.
Are you seriously accusing LYSOL of pushing an agenda?
You have been fair in this argument, so I dont mean to belittle it or anything. I just disagree based on what I am seeing.Turn this anger into
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pjl44 said:mace1229 said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/man-who-died-ingesting-fish-tank-cleaner-remembered-as-intelligent-levelheaded/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
No one ever runs out of salt (sodium chloride) and reaches for chlorine bleach, then blames the salt maker. Half the same name doesn’t mean much in chemistry.0 -
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JimmyV said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
He is President of the United States. He needs to be held to that standard, not a lesser one where we dismiss what he says as crazy gibberish and then critique the media for how it covers him.
If your response to the President of the United States proving himself to be total moron is to move directly to the subtlety of the media's coverage of his idiocy...wow. I don't want a ban, so I'll just say wow.
Especially if you voted for that walking meatball...
This whole thing angers me on a deep level, that we have accepted such an utterly ignorant man as our leader. This isn't even idiocy on and adult level, it's middle school level idiocy.
The idiocy is bad enough, but more galling is the arrogance to think, from the depths of your proven ineptitude, that such a simpleton's idea might be a novel solution that scientists have never thought to try. The level of basic science knowledge that he must lack to make that statement is fucking STAGGERING!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?Holy fucknuts. Trump has outed himself as the least informed person in this crisis, a position he's in by choice, after making one of the most profoundly dumb statements that have ever been made by a sitting president.And you're more concerned with whether the statement was to inject bleach or drink it, and like, what's up with the media?Fuck.
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Mike D88 said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?Holy fucknuts. Trump has outed himself as the least informed person in this crisis, a position he's in by choice, after making one of the most profoundly dumb statements that have ever been made by a sitting president.And you're more concerned with whether the statement was to inject bleach or drink it, and like, what's up with the media?Fuck.
I can't figure out if Trump is simply a fucking idiot, the world's biggest Troll, a super misanthrope who like watching people die, or all of the above. Probably all of the above and more.
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mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:Ray J. T. said:DewieCox said:Watch it over and over until you realize just how stupid he sounded. IMO the “drink bleach” memes are just overkill if you’re going for comedic impact. They need no alterations.Not saying his words never get twisted but when you say something that monumentally stupid you deserve whatever exaggerations.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586
Even that article says “ President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute.” And he never said that in the clips I’ve seen. He specifically says it should be tested by medical doctors to see if it has any promise. But the media like this article is saying he says you can get an injection.
It was already a dumb comment on its own, we don’t need to make it worse. And guess what, if someone actually is dumb enough to try it who are they going to blame, Trump or the media who actually said it?
It was a dumb comment, I’m not arguing that. As I listened I just rolled my eyes at how stupid it sounded.
But my point is there is a massive difference between asking medical doctors to look into something and asking people to try it. The media is misquoting him as asking people to try it or at least suggesting this treatment already exists. However dangerous you think his comment was, wouldn’t it be 10 times worse to misquote him on that to make it sound like he thinks it’s safe?Now if anyone is truly concerned that this is so dangerous that they feel the need to warn people, then how big of a story would it be if the media ignored it, or just reported the actual truth? The false reporting of his comments and comments like Hilary’s are more dangerous because they give false credibility to those claims.If I didn’t watch the clip I would probably believe he’s suggesting to drink chemicals because you have the media and even Hilary saying he did.
Now to that last comment. What makes you think this would be like the Nazi’s treatment of the Jews? We do medical testing every day, what makes you think this time we’d ignore all safety protocols and just sacrifice people?
As for my last comment, you're right, I was referring to it as if proper testing wasn't done and people were just injected to see what happened. Probably not a fair assessment and basing it just off Trump's off handed recommendation.It's a hopeless situation...0
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