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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,369
    I just saw a headline on a paywalled article that says Carnival cruise lines will resume some sailings in August. 

    That’s a big “nope” for me. 
    If I can't go see a club show, those giant germ factories can stay docked for the foreseeable future
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,284
    I just saw a headline on a paywalled article that says Carnival cruise lines will resume some sailings in August. 

    That’s a big “nope” for me. 
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    During the Public Health Authority's daily press conference on the corona virus, Karin Tegmark Wisell, head of the department of microbiology, announced that an infection in covid-19 provides an immunity protection. An expert group has come to the conclusion after reviewing the overall state of knowledge.

    - A proven immune response is considered to provide full or partial protection against clinical disease in the event of a re-infection.
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  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    I just saw a headline on a paywalled article that says Carnival cruise lines will resume some sailings in August. 

    That’s a big “nope” for me. 
    Seems so wrong
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/05/04/business/ap-us-carnival-cruise-reopening.html

  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    edited May 2020
    For those of us in NY State. See ya sometime in mid June? (I’m in NYC and Phase 2.)




  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,424
    Renfield said:
    I just saw a headline on a paywalled article that says Carnival cruise lines will resume some sailings in August. 

    That’s a big “nope” for me. 
    Seems so wrong
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/05/04/business/ap-us-carnival-cruise-reopening.html

    Idiots. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,057
    I can't imagine anyone taking a cruise any time in the near future...like before there's not only a vaccine but a significant amount of "normal" time has passed.

    I'll never take one (never really wanted to, anyway, but even if I did, there's no way I'd be doing it in 2020).
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
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  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,424
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    I know it....it's fucking nuts. I'm staying home. F that.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,367
    Renfield said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
    It doesn’t!
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  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    Renfield said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
    It doesn’t!
    It’s totally absurd! This is not an attainable goal at a concert. Let’s hope no artist/band will engage in this stupidity. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Renfield said:
    Renfield said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
    It doesn’t!
    It’s totally absurd! This is not an attainable goal at a concert. Let’s hope no artist/band will engage in this stupidity. 
    let's think about this for a minute.

    to properly socially distance, you would probably need your venue to be about 1/3 capacity. no venue will attempt this because such a small gate will not be enough to pay the band and cover expenses. no venue would risk this.

    also, no band that is not on tour is going to make a special trip to podunk, mo to play a show. i say podunk, mo because columbia, st louis city, st louis county, and i believe kansas city area are all still under stay at home orders indefinitely. also, what bands are touring right now? can't be smaller bands because our bars are not even open right now.

    our governor is fucking stupid.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mfc2006 said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    I know it....it's fucking nuts. I'm staying home. F that.
    me too. i do need to take some supplies to an account in cape on wed or thurs, but aside from that i am staying home.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,403
    OnWis97 said:
    I can't imagine anyone taking a cruise any time in the near future...like before there's not only a vaccine but a significant amount of "normal" time has passed.

    I'll never take one (never really wanted to, anyway, but even if I did, there's no way I'd be doing it in 2020).
    I've looked at them for 2021, but there aren't really any deals which I thought was weird.  But then I read a lot of 2020 just pushed to 2021 so it made sense.  I of course would only book with the ability cancel and not lose much $ ;)
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,730
    Yup let's relax the social distancing and stay at home orders...

     An influential coronavirus model is nearly doubling its projection to about 135,000 US deaths. A researcher blames relaxed social distancing. https://cnn.it/2zZGmzZ
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,598
    OnWis97 said:
    I can't imagine anyone taking a cruise any time in the near future...like before there's not only a vaccine but a significant amount of "normal" time has passed.

    I'll never take one (never really wanted to, anyway, but even if I did, there's no way I'd be doing it in 2020).
    I had no desire to cruise before the young one suggested it. I thought it was for boring, old people. She was enticed by youtube reviews of waterslides and I have to say I was amazed last summer!!! Every day, I opened my curtains to a new gift: a gorgeous new landscape in the Mediterranean. It was a wonderful way to travel Europe, swim and enjoy artwork, like the statue of David.

    Anyhow, I rebooked spring break 2020 cruise until next spring break. I also pushed PJ/Eilish LollaParis and DMB for a year! Buy the ticket... take the ride! 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,369
    Renfield said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
    Maybe in a seated venue where you space out the seats that are sold and block off the rest. But there's still a lot of movement back and forth and it's a lot of people indoors breathing the same air. 

    It's weird to think about how concerts will kick back off. It will be tough to route a tour if states have varying restrictions and the looming threat of an outbreak changing things. Maybe short regional runs near where a given band is based? And outdoor shows first if the weather allows for it?
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,854
    OnWis97 said:
    I can't imagine anyone taking a cruise any time in the near future...like before there's not only a vaccine but a significant amount of "normal" time has passed.

    I'll never take one (never really wanted to, anyway, but even if I did, there's no way I'd be doing it in 2020).

    Just back from our cruise Had a great time - iFunny
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,590
    Ha!
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    It’s not just about bringing your guns to the state house to protest stay at home orders but PIPE BOMBS! Pipe bombs. Let that sink in.

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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,424
    edited May 2020
    mfc2006 said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    I know it....it's fucking nuts. I'm staying home. F that.
    me too. i do need to take some supplies to an account in cape on wed or thurs, but aside from that i am staying home.
    We venture out for groceries every other week & go for long drives. Aside from that, we’re home.
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  • Mike D88Mike D88 Posts: 723
    Renfield said:
    Renfield said:
    missouri started to open up today. funny because just yesterday we had the highest number of new cases since the pandemic began.

    god help us.
    And you can go to concerts!!
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus

     “event organizers are expected to keep concertgoers six feet or more apart to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.”  How does that work?
    It doesn’t!
    It’s totally absurd! This is not an attainable goal at a concert. Let’s hope no artist/band will engage in this stupidity. 
    let's think about this for a minute.

    to properly socially distance, you would probably need your venue to be about 1/3 capacity. no venue will attempt this because such a small gate will not be enough to pay the band and cover expenses. no venue would risk this.

    also, no band that is not on tour is going to make a special trip to podunk, mo to play a show. i say podunk, mo because columbia, st louis city, st louis county, and i believe kansas city area are all still under stay at home orders indefinitely. also, what bands are touring right now? can't be smaller bands because our bars are not even open right now.

    our governor is fucking stupid.
    Social distancing is pointless in large groups, even if everyone follows the guidelines precisely. The six foot rule is not a guaranteed safety bubble, it's just the best balance of practicality and efficacy. A symptomatic carrier, or even an asymptomatic carrier with coincidental symptoms--from, say, allergies--would carpet bomb everyone within dozens of feet in all directions with potentially infectious viral loads. By the time you get crowds into the thousands, you're going to run into some of those.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Just a reminder again.  Good new video.


  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    California will be allowing some business’s to re-open Friday.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Smellyman said:
    Just a reminder again.  Good new video.


    Much easier to keep this virus at bay on an island.


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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Today in BC the provincial Medical Health Officer and the Minister of Health presented some modelling they have been doing to help guide loosening up the restrictions. We have been fortunate to have been able to squash our curve, and cases have never overwhelmed the capacity of our health care system. The data suggests that, with current restrictions in place, people are experiencing about 30% of the contact with others that they were pre-covid. Modelling estimates that increasing contact to 40% of "normal" would not raise the rate of new infections any appreciable amount, raising it to 60% would likely lead to an increase in cases that is manageable within the healthcare system, and raising it to 80% would lead to a major spike in cases. In the words of our health minister, "we cannot throw open the doors, but we can begin to open the windows". We're now waiting to learn which windows exactly will open, and when. Details on Wednesday apparently. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,893
    California will be allowing some business’s to re-open Friday.

    Gov. Newsom did mention that today but he said these will be retail businesses open for curbside pickup only.  In other words, not open- open.  We'll see what happens Friday- things do change a bit from day to day and week to week, but so far it's just for curbside pickup. 

    We have one guy at the bookstore who might work the store some days.  The rest of us are over 65 and staying home for now.  Personally, I'm staying home until this thing is over or until hell freezes over, which ever comes first.  I re-opened my on line book sales though, so I have a few bucks trickling in. 
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