The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Whoa, hold up. 
Was there an instance when Swedish military massacred demonstrators?  

Yes.

PJNB

F Me In The Brain said:

DewieCox said:

Trump/sports commissioners conferfence call. Full arenas and baseball  by August, NFL start in September. Didn’t see it mentioned. Seems somewhat reasonable but I think stadium sized crowds could be too much. I like MLB’s idea of playing in empty stadiums in centralized location til we get a handle on how hard it will hit in the fall. 

This isn't going to happen.  
Until they get a vaccine in place no sane leadership will support this 
Which means that Trump will leave it up to others to land in the correct spots on this.

Agree about no crowd activities.  They could happen.

You think sports with fans are done for 12-18 months? 

DewieCox

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

thank you for confirming my opinion of you and in fact lowering it considerably with this irrelevant to the current crisis statement.

very ironic considering how superior attitude has been in stating the US or its citizens cant take criticism.

so please , do go out daily and interact with your fellow citizens. You know , following your governments lead on this.

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Irrelevant 

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Right-O mate!  And we both sent almost a million men to fight the Nazis.
And both are super duper relevant 👍

Sounds like some kind of nerve was struck.

Surprised.

Hah!  You're the one who responded to a calm, measured post with a completely irrelevant flame bait.  We all know it's you with the struck nerve, maybe I should make a poll on it lol

Where exactly lies the "flame bait" in what I wrote?

I am not playing this game with you, I prefer to retain what respect I have for you, and that will quickly dissolve if you carry on pretending you didn't make that statement with the intent of instigating.

I have the guts to admit that my Giesecke posts are friendly mockery, have the guts to own yours as well.

I was not mocking you or the state of Ohio in any way.

But please, explain where the flame bait lies. Where lies the intention of "instigating"?

Every post you’ve made the last few pages.

Spiritual_Chaos

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

thank you for confirming my opinion of you and in fact lowering it considerably with this irrelevant to the current crisis statement.

very ironic considering how superior attitude has been in stating the US or its citizens cant take criticism.

so please , do go out daily and interact with your fellow citizens. You know , following your governments lead on this.

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Irrelevant 

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Right-O mate!  And we both sent almost a million men to fight the Nazis.
And both are super duper relevant 👍

Sounds like some kind of nerve was struck.

Surprised.

Hah!  You're the one who responded to a calm, measured post with a completely irrelevant flame bait.  We all know it's you with the struck nerve, maybe I should make a poll on it lol

Where exactly lies the "flame bait" in what I wrote?

I am not playing this game with you, I prefer to retain what respect I have for you, and that will quickly dissolve if you carry on pretending you didn't make that statement with the intent of instigating.

I have the guts to admit that my Giesecke posts are friendly mockery, have the guts to own yours as well.

I was not mocking you or the state of Ohio in any way.

But please, explain where the flame bait lies. Where lies the intention of "instigating"?

Every post you’ve made the last few pages.

Nope.

F Me In The Brain

PJNB said:

F Me In The Brain said:

DewieCox said:

Trump/sports commissioners conferfence call. Full arenas and baseball  by August, NFL start in September. Didn’t see it mentioned. Seems somewhat reasonable but I think stadium sized crowds could be too much. I like MLB’s idea of playing in empty stadiums in centralized location til we get a handle on how hard it will hit in the fall. 

This isn't going to happen.  
Until they get a vaccine in place no sane leadership will support this 
Which means that Trump will leave it up to others to land in the correct spots on this.

Agree about no crowd activities.  They could happen.

You think sports with fans are done for 12-18 months? 

I sure hope not but I think that until we know if this is going to come back in the fall, as some suspect, I don't think there is a way they open stadiums for leagues.  
If it takes 12-18 I think we will have to do it without crowds.  
Or, I could see people who recover being ok to be a part of crowds if they show immunity is carrying.
Who knows ....damn this sucks.

DewieCox

Spiritual_Chaos said:

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

thank you for confirming my opinion of you and in fact lowering it considerably with this irrelevant to the current crisis statement.

very ironic considering how superior attitude has been in stating the US or its citizens cant take criticism.

so please , do go out daily and interact with your fellow citizens. You know , following your governments lead on this.

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Irrelevant 

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I will be putting together a little comparison on my state, Ohio, and Sweden at some point.
We have roughly equivalent population sizes and are polar opposites on reaction to the pandemic, with Ohio being one of the very earliest to enact strict social distancing measures and Sweden being the very last.
Should be interesting, I wish everyone well!

And we both have had famous cases of the military gunning down our own citizens during demonstrations. 

Right-O mate!  And we both sent almost a million men to fight the Nazis.
And both are super duper relevant 👍

Sounds like some kind of nerve was struck.

Surprised.

Hah!  You're the one who responded to a calm, measured post with a completely irrelevant flame bait.  We all know it's you with the struck nerve, maybe I should make a poll on it lol

Where exactly lies the "flame bait" in what I wrote?

I am not playing this game with you, I prefer to retain what respect I have for you, and that will quickly dissolve if you carry on pretending you didn't make that statement with the intent of instigating.

I have the guts to admit that my Giesecke posts are friendly mockery, have the guts to own yours as well.

I was not mocking you or the state of Ohio in any way.

But please, explain where the flame bait lies. Where lies the intention of "instigating"?

Every post you’ve made the last few pages.

Nope.

Yep, even if it wasn’t the intent. Posting those pics is flame worthy even if Sweden had no cases.

YAKIMATSU

Always was proud about being of swedish decent. Between johan/god and sc, I will never do that ever again.  I now realize that I should be ashamed to be connected with them in any way. I see now the "nordics are better than everyone else" attitude that I attach to nazism, yuck.

F Me In The Brain

Johan/God

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mickeyrat

rgambs said:

Whoa, hold up. 
Was there an instance when Swedish military massacred demonstrators?  

If, so, I retract all that and apologize, I thought you were being sarcastic.

1931. Union strike and following demonstration against use of scabs..

https://libcom.org/history/adalen-shootings-sweden-1931

always an opportunity to learn, isnt there.

hedonist

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Picturing people on here watching The Other Guys:

"Why is Will Ferrel saying that tuna will constructa breathing apparatus to go up on land and kill Lions? That is not relevant. Tuna fish can't construct such things. It doesn't make any sense. Baby, your uncle is a fisherman - can you call him and ask about this." 

Man, it seems like you're flailing here.

Utterly asinine.

YAKI, I laughed at that too.  Excellent!

mickeyrat

Even W. got it........

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR3sFB3s-fVrtmrLpqfwlImXikMRniTDsDa0V9PtxYdFOS_ivW7hEvneYOY

Spiritual_Chaos

hedonist said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Picturing people on here watching The Other Guys:

"Why is Will Ferrel saying that tuna will constructa breathing apparatus to go up on land and kill Lions? That is not relevant. Tuna fish can't construct such things. It doesn't make any sense. Baby, your uncle is a fisherman - can you call him and ask about this." 

Man, it seems like you're flailing here.

Utterly asinine.

YAKI, I laughed at that too.  Excellent!

To my knowledge, and I might be wrong, it wasn't me that was "flailing" ("wave or swing wildly"?)  because Ohio and Sweden happen to share a similar tragedy and I mentioned that when Ohio in connection to Sweden was brought up.

Now was it?

23scidoo

https://youtu.be/t-N3In2rLI4

mcgruff10

mickeyrat said:

rgambs said:

Whoa, hold up. 
Was there an instance when Swedish military massacred demonstrators?  

If, so, I retract all that and apologize, I thought you were being sarcastic.

1931. Union strike and following demonstration against use of scabs..

https://libcom.org/history/adalen-shootings-sweden-1931

always an opportunity to learn, isnt there.

First off the whole thing is irrelevant in respect to gambs post.  Second if you are going to post something like that explain it further.  Everyone knows about Kent state but I am going to guess not as many people know about the 1931 massacre in Sweden.  

Mike D88

AP not mincing words today: https://apnews.com/090600c299a8cf07f5b44d92534856bc

As the first alarms sounded in early January that an outbreak of a novel coronavirus in China might ignite a global pandemic, the Trump administration squandered nearly two months that could have been used to bolster the federal stockpile of critically needed medical supplies and equipment.

A review of federal purchasing contracts by The Associated Press shows federal agencies waited until mid-March to begin placing bulk orders of N95 respirator masks, mechanical ventilators and other equipment needed by front-line health care workers.

HHS did not respond to questions about why federal officials waited to order medical supplies until stocks were running critically low. But President Donald Trump has asserted that the federal government should take a back seat to states when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.

Because of the fractured federal response to COVID-19, state governors say they’re now bidding against federal agencies and each other for scarce supplies, driving up prices.

“You now literally will have a company call you up and say, ‘Well, California just outbid you,’” Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, D-N.Y., said Tuesday. “It’s like being on eBay with 50 other states, bidding on a ventilator.”

hedonist

This has been going around my head lately...

Regardless of what "leaders" mandate for a particular state, city, country, what have you...is it not considered prudent to avoid gatherings in pubs or similar spaces without being told to do so?  Doesn't common sense dictate basic safety measures for yourself, family and friends?

The mindset of some - "well, we haven't been TOLD we need to do X, Y & Z, so I'm taking advantage!" - strikes me as flouting reality for selfish reasons.  Just avoid that shit, for fuck's sake.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

F Me In The Brain said:

PJNB said:

F Me In The Brain said:

DewieCox said:

Trump/sports commissioners conferfence call. Full arenas and baseball  by August, NFL start in September. Didn’t see it mentioned. Seems somewhat reasonable but I think stadium sized crowds could be too much. I like MLB’s idea of playing in empty stadiums in centralized location til we get a handle on how hard it will hit in the fall. 

This isn't going to happen.  
Until they get a vaccine in place no sane leadership will support this 
Which means that Trump will leave it up to others to land in the correct spots on this.

Agree about no crowd activities.  They could happen.

You think sports with fans are done for 12-18 months? 

I sure hope not but I think that until we know if this is going to come back in the fall, as some suspect, I don't think there is a way they open stadiums for leagues.  
If it takes 12-18 I think we will have to do it without crowds.  
Or, I could see people who recover being ok to be a part of crowds if they show immunity is carrying.
Who knows ....damn this sucks.

Myself?

Im not going to any baseball games, concerts, sporting events in general, for a year. They could open up baseball in July or August, offer $1.00 tickets with a free beer and a hot dog, and there is no way in hell I am going. Same for a concert. Pearl Jam can offer FREE tickets, and I still wont go, until we are in 2021.

Just me.

YAKIMATSU

I do now understand the know-it-all part of my personality, genetics. Thanks sc, yes learning is good, but behaving like a pompous ass to "teach" is just low brow and intimates a highly insecure personality. 
Yes. I will take my ban like a man.

YAKIMATSU

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

F Me In The Brain said:

PJNB said:

F Me In The Brain said:

DewieCox said:

Trump/sports commissioners conferfence call. Full arenas and baseball  by August, NFL start in September. Didn’t see it mentioned. Seems somewhat reasonable but I think stadium sized crowds could be too much. I like MLB’s idea of playing in empty stadiums in centralized location til we get a handle on how hard it will hit in the fall. 

This isn't going to happen.  
Until they get a vaccine in place no sane leadership will support this 
Which means that Trump will leave it up to others to land in the correct spots on this.

Agree about no crowd activities.  They could happen.

You think sports with fans are done for 12-18 months? 

I sure hope not but I think that until we know if this is going to come back in the fall, as some suspect, I don't think there is a way they open stadiums for leagues.  
If it takes 12-18 I think we will have to do it without crowds.  
Or, I could see people who recover being ok to be a part of crowds if they show immunity is carrying.
Who knows ....damn this sucks.

Myself?

Im not going to any baseball games, concerts, sporting events in general, for a year. They could open up baseball in July or August, offer $1.00 tickets with a free beer and a hot dog, and there is no way in hell I am going. Same for a concert. Pearl Jam can offer FREE tickets, and I still wont go, until we are in 2021.

Just me.

Not just you. I will be on the home rail too. 

mickeyrat

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

rgambs said:

Whoa, hold up. 
Was there an instance when Swedish military massacred demonstrators?  

If, so, I retract all that and apologize, I thought you were being sarcastic.

1931. Union strike and following demonstration against use of scabs..

https://libcom.org/history/adalen-shootings-sweden-1931

always an opportunity to learn, isnt there.

First off the whole thing is irrelevant in respect to gambs post.  Second if you are going to post something like that explain it further.  Everyone knows about Kent state but I am going to guess not as many people know about the 1931 massacre in Sweden.  

I agree, which is why I looked after his picture and later posts stating similarity were shared.

further, historically gov/private agent violence and union members wasnt as seeming an outrageous happenstance in that era , at least here.  Hell violence against demonstrators in the 60s civil rights fight was evening news fodder.

to be clear, personally I find it all abhorrent.