The coronavirus

CM189191

Leathe?ma? said:

 Keep your distance!

lol

I saw these the other day too :

tempo_n_groove

CM189191 said:

Leathe?ma? said:

 Keep your distance!

lol

I saw these the other day too :

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

brianlux

CM189191 said:

Leathe?ma? said:

 Keep your distance!

lol

I saw these the other day too :

Haha!  These are great!

brianlux

23scidoo said:

The question was ''What do we do now?''..
the answer is from Nick Cave..

The Red Hand Files has always been a space in which I could offer dubious existential notions, religious meditations, unsound advice, millennial senilities and general annoyances, while hopefully simultaneously extending a little human kindness and compassion. However, these sorts of ruminations came from a more privileged and fortunate time, when we had the oxygen to muse and to play. Things have changed, we are faced with a common enemy — impartial, unfeeling and of immeasurable magnitude — and it is no longer a time for abstractions. Now is the time to be cautious with our words, our opinions.

A friend called our new world ‘a ghost ship’ — and maybe she is right. She has recently lost someone dear to her and recognises acutely the premonitory feeling of a world about to be shattered — and that we will need to put ourselves back together again, not only personally, but societally. In time we will be given the opportunity to either contract around the old version of ourselves and our world — insular, self-interested and tribalistic — or understand the connectedness and commonality of all humans, everywhere. In isolation, we will be presented with our essence — of what we are personally and what we are as a society. We will be asked to decide what we want to preserve about our world and ourselves, and what we want to discard.

Eventually these questions will become of acute significance, but they are not for now. Now is a time to listen to those in more informed positions and to follow instructions, as difficult as that may be, as we step into the unprecedented unknowable. We should be careful about the noises we make — especially those with a public voice — and should not pretend to know what we do not. From within the clamour and tonnage of information and misinformation, of opinions and counter-opinions, of blame-games and grim prophecy and the most panic-inducing version of ‘Imagine’ ever recorded, emerges a simple message — wash your hands and (if you can) stay at home.

Love, Nick

Beautiful Nick!

Merkin Baller

brianlux said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Brian, I liked him on Rogan and he seems to make good sense there.
If only some of those things could happen - crazy times.

Yeah, that Rogan interview was excellent.

bbiggs said:

^ Brian, my honest takeaway to the article is that we are fucked in one way or another for the next year and a half.  On one hand it is the health crisis aspect.  On the other hand it is the economic fallout aspect.  They'll both be present on some level.

I'm more concerned about health issues than economic issues, b, but that fact is, we can't change overnight how we procure the things that keep us going- our food, water, clothing, housing, medicine.  We can't have everyone stop working for 18 months and expect people to survive.  I don't listen to what Trump says because... well, for obvious reasons, haha!... so I'm more interested in the science approach, and I think Osterholm is one of the best experts on that level.  So yeah, I think you're right, I think the reality is that this situation is fucked not matter what we do.  But I think we have to remember that most of us will get through this, that this virus will end and we will move on.  Hopefully we will learn enough from this to not lessen the chances of something like this happening again. 

Loved the Rogan interview, and I'm not typically a JRE fan.

Thanks for posting the op-ed. sobering stuff, but a good read about the dilemma.

Meltdown99

gimmesometruth27

i love those album covers, LOL!!

my favorites are NWA, fleetwood mac, and the beatles.

did not want to quote it and take up an entire page of the thread, haha..

gimmesometruth27

tish said:

GIMME, Thanks for sharing some potential solutions. I love their ability to act quicker.

thanks Tish. Wasn't my idea. i was just passing along what the guy said because it made sense to me and seemed like a quicker and more reasonable solution. i will see that guy again monday and let you all know if he has made any traction with that idea.

brianlux

Merkin Baller said:

brianlux said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Brian, I liked him on Rogan and he seems to make good sense there.
If only some of those things could happen - crazy times.

Yeah, that Rogan interview was excellent.

bbiggs said:

^ Brian, my honest takeaway to the article is that we are fucked in one way or another for the next year and a half.  On one hand it is the health crisis aspect.  On the other hand it is the economic fallout aspect.  They'll both be present on some level.

I'm more concerned about health issues than economic issues, b, but that fact is, we can't change overnight how we procure the things that keep us going- our food, water, clothing, housing, medicine.  We can't have everyone stop working for 18 months and expect people to survive.  I don't listen to what Trump says because... well, for obvious reasons, haha!... so I'm more interested in the science approach, and I think Osterholm is one of the best experts on that level.  So yeah, I think you're right, I think the reality is that this situation is fucked not matter what we do.  But I think we have to remember that most of us will get through this, that this virus will end and we will move on.  Hopefully we will learn enough from this to not lessen the chances of something like this happening again. 

Loved the Rogan interview, and I'm not typically a JRE fan.

Thanks for posting the op-ed. sobering stuff, but a good read about the dilemma.

You're welcome, Merkin.  Glad you found it useful.

That article presents some hard realities.  My wife and I are staying home and isolating.  We are over 65 and at risk and the bookstore is a non-essential business.  Staying closed will hurt us financially, maybe even kill the business.  But we have to help flatten the curve by staying home- it's the right thing to do.  But as the article points out, because of the way our society is structured- not everyone can stay home and have the world keep on going.  Somebody has to grow and distribute food, work in health care, keep the grocery stores, gas stations and pharmacies running, and so forth.  So these are difficult choices we have to make.

On another forum I was told this kind of information is too hopeless sounding.  I surely don't mean to be spreading doom and gloom.  But I also believe our best chance of getting through this thing as well as possible is by understanding and accepting the realities that lie before us and relying on good science to best inform the decisions we make.  

Spiritual_Chaos

New guidelines for prioritization

The National Board of Health and Welfare has now developed new guidelines for who should receive care first. This is partly about the principle of human dignity, that is, prioritization must not be based on social situation or status, age, disability or whether the person himself contributed to his condition. Measures should be taken first for those most in need.

- We can end up in a situation where we need to prioritize, says Thomas Lindén at the authority at today's press conference.

The National Board of Health also addresses the need for protective equipment for healthcare personnel.

- The urgent need for protective equipment is assured, but there is still no long-term endurance, says Taha Alexandersson.

mcgruff10

Meltdown99 said:

That is funny as hell!

dankind

tish said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

When is the time to work from home... I'm still going to the office.. .work better here... it's a 10 min walk, so don't need to cram into a subway or bus... but if the numbers are starting to rise in Sweden like they are saying...

Better to err on the side of caution.
Health > Economy
 If you were mine, you woulda been chained to the bedpost by now.

I'm disappointed in all of you for letting this one go.

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

tish said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

When is the time to work from home... I'm still going to the office.. .work better here... it's a 10 min walk, so don't need to cram into a subway or bus... but if the numbers are starting to rise in Sweden like they are saying...

Better to err on the side of caution.
Health > Economy
 If you were mine, you woulda been chained to the bedpost by now.

I'm disappointed in all of you for letting this one go.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dignin

The Four Possible Timelines for Life Returning to Normal

The coronavirus outbreak may last for a year or two, but some elements of pre-pandemic life will likely be won back in the meantime.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-social-distancing-over-back-to-normal/608752/

F Me In The Brain

Brian, your updates are not too doom & gloom.  We do not rejoice in the awful stuff that is going on but this isn't the Coronoa Positivity Thread, and the sobering truth (or possibilities) are still in need of being shared, in my opinion, until everyone is taking it seriously. 

(Stops saying we should go back to work, open by Christian Re-BirthDay, comparing this virus to other shitty things that kill people, etc.)

Death toll in the USA tops 1,000.

Today is March 26th.

How long will it take to double, and then again?

This is going to get much worse before it gets better.  The sooner people stop pretending and truly embrace the distancing to slow things down and give those who are already infected their best chance at survival, the better.

brianlux

F Me In The Brain said:

Brian, your updates are not too doom & gloom.  We do not rejoice in the awful stuff that is going on but this isn't the Coronoa Positivity Thread, and the sobering truth (or possibilities) are still in need of being shared, in my opinion, until everyone is taking it seriously. 

(Stops saying we should go back to work, open by Christian Re-BirthDay, comparing this virus to other shitty things that kill people, etc.)

Death toll in the USA tops 1,000.

Today is March 26th.

How long will it take to double, and then again?

This is going to get much worse before it gets better.  The sooner people stop pretending and truly embrace the distancing to slow things down and give those who are already infected their best chance at survival, the better.

Truth is a bitch at times, but you said it well!  I hope more and more people are getting on board with distancing and hand washing and, if possible, staying home.

dankind

Keep sharing opinions, folks, but that's all they are, even if they're from smart people in the field. It's a novel virus, and it's all still guesswork, even if those guesses are educated ones. At this point, these articles, even those written by or profiling Nobel laureates, belong in the op-ed pages, not the science pages.

As for me, I'll see y'all in the funny papers.

"When the facts change, I change my mind."

Otherwise ...

cutz

josevolution said:

cutz said:

Man, I feel for you^^^ jose^^^ and NY at this time.

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1242630367896571905?s=09

It’s a fucked up situation , Elmhurst hospital which is only a few mikes from the hospital I work in had 13 deaths yesterday this is just the beginning of the darkness to come over this whole state! My wife who’s at home will start to look at rentals way upstate if shit gets really really bad we’re thinking of packing up and just moving up to the mountains for a few months..

You gotta do whatcha gotta do for you & your family.

mcgruff10

dignin said:

The Four Possible Timelines for Life Returning to Normal

The coronavirus outbreak may last for a year or two, but some elements of pre-pandemic life will likely be won back in the meantime.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-social-distancing-over-back-to-normal/608752/

Excellent article, thanks for sharing. What is the science behind only getting this once?  Haven’t some people gotten covid 19 twice?

Spiritual_Chaos

I wanna hang with my mom and siblings on easter