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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,572
    Thinking back on it, it seems like all this happened in the blink of an eye.  One day (Saturday, March 14th, to be exact) my wife and I were becoming very concerned by things we were hearing.  We worked the next day and before the work day was out, Governor Gavin Newsom had given the word that anyone over the age of 65 should be sheltering at home.  In an instant, our world changed.  The old was gone, and a new era began… in an instant.

    It is still unsettling to think about.





    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,382
    brianlux said:
    Thinking back on it, it seems like all this happened in the blink of an eye.  One day (Saturday, March 14th, to be exact) my wife and I were becoming very concerned by things we were hearing.  We worked the next day and before the work day was out, Governor Gavin Newsom had given the word that anyone over the age of 65 should be sheltering at home.  In an instant, our world changed.  The old was gone, and a new era began… in an instant.

    It is still unsettling to think about.






    Unsettling? Listen to this one!


    My wife at the age of 50 decided to go back to school and become a Registered Nurse. She has spent the last 30 years working with Autistic children/adults. She finished school a couple months ago, obtained her nursing degree, and is/was all set to begin a new chapter in her life. AT THE AGE OF 50!!

    She is supposed to start her new job/career at a hospital in the city of Chicago, 1st week of May. She is excited, I am terrified. Because GOD knows I wouldn't want to voluntarily walk into a hospital 5 days a week. I keep telling her I am going to chain her to the couch May 4th, and not let her out of the house.

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Legos, Ham, and making Mom's broccoli and cheese casserole for our Easter.  And chocolate.  Far too much chocolate.  There will be an outdoor egg hunt for the boy.
    We only dyed 5 eggs and we will be eating them today, I've been annoyed at the people on FB with 2 dozen dyed eggs that they won't eat during a damn pandemic that's creating egg shortages.

    Might give the chickens some fresh bedding and build some bird cages for the blueberry bushes.  Going to be nice but a little chilly, so maybe we will have a little campfire and roast some Easter smores.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,129
    https://apple.news/AG3AYFbiMSNeYQyL05AVtKw
    Can’t even imagine not having an adult in the room with the idiot in chief to talk sense to him,this idiot would be ok with 100k death toll like it’s a drop in a bucket, he needs to be gone like now.,

    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,282
    Smellyman said:
    So how is everyone celebrating Easter this special year?

    walking dead marathon
    Sorry to hear 
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Smellyman said:
    So how is everyone celebrating Easter this special year?

    walking dead marathon
    They are risen!
    Happy Zombie Day!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,424

    "That is a surprise": Doctors still waiting for feared surge of COVID-19 patients in Canadian ICUs



    My province has 112 cases. No deaths. No strain on health care system. In fact it is probably in the best shape it has ever been in with all of the elective surgeries being postponed and other things cancelled or delayed. I have a couple of friends that work at our local hospital and they said they have never had it so easy during their shifts. Hopefully we are not waiting for it to hit and this is in fact as bad as it is going to get. I really feel for the cities/countries that have been hit hard from this. Hopefully worldwide we have hit the peak and are on the way down. 
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,424
    Amen. Maher ranting about how the virus is China’s fault and it’s not racist to call them out on it. 
    It should be called the China virus ... and I’m fine with that.   Fuck China
    You’re a freakin badass!!

    But for real, I agree with fuck China for their part. As with most things it’s about intent and I can ttrust that you guys aren’t being racist, but there are too many fuck faces  that are enabled and empowered with these kinds of statements. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,623
     Joe Biden: My Plan to Reopen America After the Coronavirus https://nyti.ms/2UZm3dQ

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    edited April 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    Amen. Maher ranting about how the virus is China’s fault and it’s not racist to call them out on it. 
    Awesome. Thanks for posting. 
    I rarely ever agree what Bill Maher has to say, but boy he nails in that segment.  Thanks 4 posting it....

    Ofc you think so
    You don't?  Always thought it was a really stupid criticism of trump and others.  Kinda showing that he does get unfair stupid treatment from time to time from these new outlets.  I wish they wouldn't do that and provide that evidence cause it gives the idiots that support trump the little ammo they need to convince themselves of some huge conspiracy against Trump.

    I have no problems with China being forced by the world to take responsibility. I think we should shut down every animal market in the world.

    But there are reasons why they do not name diseases after places anymore, and Trump and his friends calling it "the chinese/wuhan virus" are not doing it with any good intentions at all (clue: it is to put blame on "the other" and not having to take flack for their handling of it). And Maher knows all of this his, even when he says it would have been called the Milan virus if it originated there. Also, the spanish flu isn't named after where it originated. The Ebola virus was named what it is in a way to NOT stigmatize the place where it actually started. So Bill "more like Sean Hannity than feels okey" Maher is shitting away without good intentions.

    I doubt many members on here would find good intentions in themselves if if they start to actually reflect on it.

    The world community went away from naming diseases after places, but suddenly that should be scrapped because it is China? Feels very, very icky.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-racist-virus-names_n_5e727ecdc5b6f5b7c53d5c48


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,112
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    I will definitely take the other side of the WHO in this case
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/world-health-organization-blame-pandemic-coronavirus/609820/

    How China Deceived the WHO

    U.S. senators are calling for investigations and the president is threatening to cut off funding. What happened?


    The world health organization is likely just another corrupt bureaucracy and a money pit...

    Cut their funding off completely.






    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    There is on one Who we should listen to...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,112
    If you can't trust the WHO on world health, who cares what they think about virus-naming

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-world-health-organization-who-blame-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-4?amp&__twitter_impression=true
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    I’m not making an argument here...but this always reminds me that the Spanish flu started in Kansas.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,282
    Sucks that this China thing has become a partisan issue. China should be pressed on this from both sides. Especially considering how these markets have already started to reopen 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    nicknyr15 said:
    Sucks that this China thing has become a partisan issue. China should be pressed on this from both sides. Especially considering how these markets have already started to reopen 
    It should be addressed by a united world community.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive. 
    It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,424
    ^^^yep, once Trump gave the smartass “it came from...China” remark, it became a tool of racism and xenophobia.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,129
    Call it what you want over 20k perished in what 4 months, I’ll call it a tragedy that more should of been done here by our federal government this is nation wide not just a N.Y. thing!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,945
    dignin said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive. 
    It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?
    Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck?  Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things.  I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    bbiggs said:
    dignin said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive. 
    It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?
    Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck?  Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things.  I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason. 
    You may feel differently if you are of Asian dissent and have been the subject of racism directly related to this.

    You're right, this shouldn't be politicized, but by calling it anything but it's scientific name, that is what is happening. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055

    Noam Chomsky on Trump's botched coronavirus response: "The country is simply run by sociopaths"

    https://youtu.be/o9QVxRCqfek

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,572
    brianlux said:
    Thinking back on it, it seems like all this happened in the blink of an eye.  One day (Saturday, March 14th, to be exact) my wife and I were becoming very concerned by things we were hearing.  We worked the next day and before the work day was out, Governor Gavin Newsom had given the word that anyone over the age of 65 should be sheltering at home.  In an instant, our world changed.  The old was gone, and a new era began… in an instant.

    It is still unsettling to think about.






    Unsettling? Listen to this one!


    My wife at the age of 50 decided to go back to school and become a Registered Nurse. She has spent the last 30 years working with Autistic children/adults. She finished school a couple months ago, obtained her nursing degree, and is/was all set to begin a new chapter in her life. AT THE AGE OF 50!!

    She is supposed to start her new job/career at a hospital in the city of Chicago, 1st week of May. She is excited, I am terrified. Because GOD knows I wouldn't want to voluntarily walk into a hospital 5 days a week. I keep telling her I am going to chain her to the couch May 4th, and not let her out of the house.


    OMG, yeah, I would do the same thing! Or at least try.  My wife would never stand for being chained down- metaphorically or physically.

    If your wife goes ahead with the work, I hope she has lots of good PPE.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    bbiggs said:
    dignin said:
    bbiggs said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus. 
    It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.

    Maybe let them decide.
    It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive. 
    It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?
    Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck?  Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things.  I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason. 
    I don't think what you say is factually incorrect, but I'm not comfortable as a bedfellow to racists and xenophobes who call it "the China virus" for obvious reasons just because society overreacts to some things.
    It's the same deal to me as the OK symbol/circle game controversy.  I don't care where it originated or what it meant/means, once white supremacists adopt it (ironically or literally, doesn't matter) I am moving away from it because I'm not comfortable sharing the "space" occupied by such scum.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    Does no one else remember all the media calling it the Wuhan virus for weeks? It wasn’t until Trump called it the China virus that they stoped calling it that and it became racist.

    That Bill Maher video someone poster was great. So many viruses are named after the place they came from and no one ever called it racist until now. Wonder why....
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