The coronavirus

Meltdown99

Even though I’m declared essential, I could still go off work and keep my job.  Ontario passed legislation protecting jobs....

I do not want my savings drained, and in way do I believe my government has my back...

so I am going to risk it and go to work, I avoid people the rest of the day...also 90% of my job I’m alone.

rhanishane

Ruby princess cruise ship allowed to disembark 2700 passengers in sydney now has 130 positive Covid cases. It has spread as far as western Australia now just from one cruise ship 😠 
We also just had 3 Chinese war ships dock in Sydney Harbour?

lindamarie73

bbiggs said:

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F Me In The Brain said:

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josevolution said:

If the Baffoon wants everything to start up in two weeks let him be the 1st to show up at a restaurant full of people let him be the 1st to sit at sporting even in the regular seats not in a private box, he’s no leader that’s for damn sure! This country doesn’t need him one bit the governor’s have already proven that! 

It’s actually one week because he’s referring to it beginning last week.

Listening to trump say “we are America and we are not built for a shutdown” sounds a lot like “we the wealthy demand our slave labor back to work.”

let’s let the economists dictate how to get out of a health emergency. Typical American bull$hit. Too bad if that means millions more die and a second wave kills more and a different age group. To quote a famous republican, oops.

for any pro business person thinking economists should dictate how we get out of a healthcare nightmare, consider if you are a business leader or owner, and you are saying we should not listen to the Health specialists and re socialize soon...

...consider I will never buy your product again and will tell everyone I know to tell everyone they know to do same. I will endlessly comment on the 4th largest website in America and continue to pass the word about your choice of business over lives.

further, I will not be attending any sporting events nor going to any restaurants

im sure millions will act in the same way. How you think the economy recovers under those conditions?

So what about the people living paycheck to paycheck that desperately need to get back to work? How about the people that don’t have a pile of money to weather this storm?  There is clearly not hope of a safety net or recovery for the poor and lower middle class here in America. Is it horrible for us to want to go back to work because even though the money isn’t coming in anymore the bills are still rolling in like clockwork?  I’m all for continuing the self isolation if you can guarantee that millions of working Americans won’t come out of it financially insolvent or bankrupt or worse.  It’s not just the stockbrokers and ultra rich that want the economy running it is also the people with bills to pay that don’t want to end in poverty.  If the wealthy and corporations among us and the government want to get together and make a security net I say keep the quarantine going.  If you want millions of Americans to have to honor their debts, bills and buy necessary items like food etc with no money coming in that is not going to fly for long. 

Everyone is talking about trump and republicans and economists but no one is looking at the poor and working class it seems.

Are they better off dead after committing multiple murders? 

Lol because going to work is the same as murdering.  Quite extreme.  So protecting the lives of people from the virus is more important than protecting people’s lives and livelihoods from the economic impact? Check.
Let me guess you are financially set to get through this for the long haul?  or are a member of an at risk populations?  What about the at risk poor and working class that may not make it through an extended shut down? Or are the needs of them less important?

If you are really worried about murdering really take a step outside your immediate reaction and think what will happen if millions plunge into financial ruin. I’m sure they will be so busy breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for staying inside and going broke to do anything drastic.  

As ever before. I am all for extending the quarantine if there is a safety net for those in immediate or short term financial risk.  If not people are gonna have to do something. And it won’t be their fault if people die. It will be the fault of The credit card companies, landlords and banks that continue demanding money when none comes in. As well as our elected leaders for doing nothing.  If I have to go to work to keep myself and my family from financial ruin like millions of others and the option is there I will. And that won’t make me or anyone else a monster or a horrible person.  

Your points are valid, but what do you think is going to happen if everyone goes back to work and the virus keeps spreading?

Do you think the economy is going to bounce back with an incredibly contagious disease crippling our hospitals?

Do you think people are going to be going to bars and restaurants in this scenario?

I agree there needs to be a safety net for people most affected, but the only way to address this virus is to contain it.

I agree 💯 bit it seems like not many people are thinking about anything but the virus itself. Either option is horrible going back to work or indefinite quarantine. No one has a moral high ground here. This really illustrates our broken political system like nothing I’ve seen as well as the class divide. I’ve written letters to my senators.  Cruz and Cormyn. Fat lot of good those  idiots are gonna do.  No sector of the population is more important than the other. People in charge need to make some drastic measures. 

But I don't think anyone is talking about "indefinite quarantine".

Unless I'm mistaken, other countries have seen positive results after several weeks of aggressive lockdowns.

Going back to work may solve some financial problems for a lot of people in the short term, but what good will that be if the virus rages unchecked forcing companies to close (again) and killing hundreds of thousands if not millions?

If it doesn't get contained more sooner than later, you can kiss any hope of a healthy economy goodbye for years.

The longer we wait to aggressively approach this, the worse it will get in all aspects, including the economic toll.

I have little faith that our government can come up with a plan to address all these concerns.  We (my family) can make it 2-3 months here. But if as they say a vaccine may not be ready for 18 months what then.  If you wait 2-3 months for the number Of infected to go down and open everything for business isn’t it likely that the number of infected will explode again?  And then you repeat the process?  

You raise a lot of good points and it has me thinking differently. I still see a huge need to address the financial concerns of everyone that is out of work.

I'm certainly nowhere near panic mode yet. I just have a problem with the current shortsighted, take it day by day view. There are people with severe economic needs, and everyday that that side of the crisis is not addressed things get a little bit worse, and it gets closer to being a bigger problem for more and more people on the lower end of the wealthiest country on earth.

The senate bill that is “at the two yard line” according to chuck, will provide full income for four months for those out of work.  I don’t know the details of how that is calculate nor how it deals with tipped workers, but that will certainly be a huge boost.  It will also provide incentives for their previous employers to continue providing benefits.  If this works, it will stabilize th economy through the summer.

That would be great....but how would that gel with President Dope's plan to reopen by Rebirthday?

I would be stunned if it was full income but this would be good backing by the govt

As I understand it, it’s up to the governors whether or not to allow their respective states to go back to work, in the end Trump has no say. (If I’m mistaken, someone please correct me)

If accurate, this will work in our favor in IL with Pritzker calling the shots. 

How so??  that Fat Ass Billionaire sounds even sillier then the Major of Shitcago when they do their daily briefing...

Spunkie

99- I would smoke the outdoor grown BC bud my longtime friends cultivate. They're pros and the babies are from organizational specialists. Frost came early this year :(

McG. You guys made an intelligent decision in child sharing together. It's a toughie for sure. Hearts n hugs.

Meltdown99

tish said:

99- I would smoke the outdoor grown BC bud my longtime friends cultivate. They're pros and the babies are from organizational specialists. Frost came early this year :(

McG. You guys made an intelligent decision in child sharing together. It's a toughie for sure. Hearts n hugs.

I usually buy bc bud...

I buy off a couple of bc web sites.  Quite satisfied. 

RideRick

Translation..

"The whole world lockdown by Coronaviral"

"The whole world?  No,  one small country at the Northsea keeps bravely resisting against giving up all freedom.."

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1242670822667493377?s=20

Merkin Baller

mcgruff10 said:

First world problems I know but something just hit me hard: I won’t be able to my son on his birthday Thursday.  My ex is a nurse practitioner in the trenches with all this.  We agreed to keep him with her until this all this passes.  Haven’t seen him in almost two weeks and I am cool with that but missing his birthday, god damn I am crushed. 

That’s not a first world problem, that’s a real life problem & you have every right to be crushed. 

I’m sorry, man. That sucks. 

benjs

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Ledbetterman10

benjs said:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Oh NOW she’s dealing out the zingers. Where was that sort of spunk four years ago when it could have helped? She’s so insufferable. 

benjs

Ledbetterman10 said:

benjs said:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Oh NOW she’s dealing out the zingers. Where was that sort of spunk four years ago when it could have helped? She’s so insufferable. 

Forget about who wrote it for a second and just let a funny line exist as a funny line. That's why I shared it.

Spiritual_Chaos

benjs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

benjs said:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Oh NOW she’s dealing out the zingers. Where was that sort of spunk four years ago when it could have helped? She’s so insufferable. 

Forget about who wrote it for a second and just let a funny line exist as a funny line. That's why I shared it.

Did she write it, or one of her people?

(funny line though ofc)

Spiritual_Chaos

“They close the school and they close the boundaries. These are completely ineffective measures."

 - Johan Giesecke,  on the actions of the Nordic neighboring countries.

True or false. It's an opinion.

Lerxst1992

Ledbetterman10 said:

benjs said:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Oh NOW she’s dealing out the zingers. Where was that sort of spunk four years ago when it could have helped? She’s so insufferable. 

Bingo.

F Me In The Brain

Opinions are like assholes - everybody has them.  
What are you trying to share?

Well, let's see what the Senate's big Bill looks like - hopefully it is helpful to businesses and supports people in this time of need
The idea that small checks go to each person is still almost baffling to me - it is unlikely to make a dent, whereas their policy shifts for the time being can make all of the difference in people feeling safe and staying fed....while sheltering and slowing the impact of this virus.


"You'll have packed churches all over our country.  I think it will be a beautiful time"
Orange Monster, on the prospect of removing sanctions and allowing people to gather in numbers a few weeks from now for a religious holiday / re-birthday.

True or False.  It's an opinion

(A horribly short sighted, dangerous, and ignorant one.)

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

benjs said:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913?s=20

Oh NOW she’s dealing out the zingers. Where was that sort of spunk four years ago when it could have helped? She’s so insufferable. 

Maybe held back by campaign advisors and a aplan of "just be normal, don't cause any stir, and don't die on us and you will be president. The dude aint got a chance. Now take the next weekend of, chill out with Billy and the Chelz and don't worry about rallys and campaigning."

Spiritual_Chaos

nvm

pjl44

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1242670822667493377?s=20

I am stunned that this is the case and not just the result of a prescient border closing

Spiritual_Chaos

Some people on here  do not care about well known people getting the virus.

I feel for you. Please do not get irrationally offended--

--But:

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1242763504442126338?s=20

F Me In The Brain

The only care I have about a well known person getting the virus is if that impacts "sheeple" to take lock-down more seriously and slow the spread. 

Most of us will get this shit, at one point or another, is how I feel.

Now, if we lose people, I care about all of those people.  (OK, maybe a few I care about a little more/less than others, selfishly)