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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,916
    Why isn’t Bernie campaigning to open the US back up to business as usual with a few minor restrictions like his brethren nation?
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  • Mike D88 said:
    can schaudenfreude be fatal? Asking for a couple million friends.
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    @rgambs Got an ETA on your research project?
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,863
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    edited April 2020
    Listening to an intensive care doctor now on the news talking about working with people with the virus. Scary, scary stuff.

    She says she is mostly surprised by how many young people, with no underlying diseases that are being hit hard by the virus and is in need of intensive care. She believes Swedes must take a further step in social distancing. 

    Funny picture of interviewing in the times of social distancing:


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    don't make a Brexit joke...don't make a Brexit joke...don't make a brexit joke....Pheewwwwww 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    Mike D88 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Hey! Remember when I made fun of the SEIU a bunch of pages ago for "finding" a distributor with 39 million masks. Guess what? None of them showed up. Kaiser tried to verify and inspect the masks before the distributor finally admitted they didn't have possession of them. Now there's a federal fraud investigation. Unreal.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-03/coronavirus-seiu-masks-supplies-investigation
    The fraudsters and grifters are coming out of the woodwork for this one.
    YAKIMATSU said:
    Immunity?  Has it been proven that anyone is immune? Herd immunity is a theory. Immune,  I hope, but I also want proof. Show me infected people coughing and sneezing and touching others with no protection with no effects. 
    The swede in you should give you a little more faith in science. 

    In what way is herd immunity a theory by the way?
    If you want to talk science: It has not been proven scientifically that humans develop immunity to SARS-CoV-2. It is merely assumed that they will, and that the presence of antibodies indicates a recovered person with immunity. And immunity could present its own dangers. Antibodies to respiratory disease drop off with time. Coronaviruses can also undergo ADE.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    edited April 2020
    TORONTO -- The premier of a Canadian province that sheltered thousands of stranded American airline passengers after the 9/11 attacks questioned the humanity of U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday after Trump banned the export of N95 protective masks to Canada.
    The conservative leader of another province compared it to one family member feasting while letting another one starve. And yet another premier said it reminded him of 1939 and 1940, when Canada was part of the fight against global fascism while the United States sat out the first years.
    Canadians across the country expressed hurt and disappointment that their neighbor and longstanding ally is blocking shipments of the masks from the United States to ensure they are available in the U.S. during the coronavirus pandemic. Canadian health care workers — like those in the U.S. — are in dire need of the masks that provide more protection against the virus that causes COVID-19.
    Newfoundland Premier Dwight Ball said one of the great lessons in humanity is that in times of crisis you don’t stop being human.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/premier-infuriated-trump-canada-helped-us-amid-911-69988768
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  • Don't we all question the humanity of Trump?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    edited April 2020
    "This is the first global crisis in the post-America world, when we don't have any american leadership. We had the ebola outbreak in 2014-2015 - with a strong american leadership facing that crisis. The US was important, to mobilise and to call on meetings in the UN Security Council. Now all that is history."

    - Carl Bildt
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,378
    https://twitter.com/indivisable2/status/1247266017040117765?s=21
    It was all there for them to put in place plans of combating the virus! I’m not saying all of the casualties could’ve been prevented but out of the 10,000 that have perished a lot of lives could of been saved...
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,456
    "This is the first global crisis in the post-America world, when we don't have any american leadership. We had the ebola outbreak in 2014-2015 - with a strong american leadership facing that crisis. The US was important, to mobilise and to call on meetings in the UN Security Council. Now all that is history."

    - Carl Bildt
    There is plenty of leadership from approx 44 of both republican and Democratic governors. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    edited April 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    "This is the first global crisis in the post-America world, when we don't have any american leadership. We had the ebola outbreak in 2014-2015 - with a strong american leadership facing that crisis. The US was important, to mobilise and to call on meetings in the UN Security Council. Now all that is history."

    - Carl Bildt
    There is plenty of leadership from approx 44 of both republican and Democratic governors. 
    How much power did they have to act on the behalf of the US on the world scene during e.g. the Ebola outbreak? Haven't seen many governors rocking meetings at the UN Security Council. Or taking a leadership position in an international coalition to stop a humanitarian crisis, in e.g. West Africa. But could be wrong. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • marjenmarjen Posts: 807
    If reports of people who had recovered coming down with the disease again. We are all really screwed until they find and can deploy a vaccine. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,899
    marjen said:
    If reports of people who had recovered coming down with the disease again. We are all really screwed until they find and can deploy a vaccine. 

    I haven't seen any reliable reports as such yet.  I surely hope it is not a recurring virus!
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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,611
    SC you dirty rotten tease!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,439

    as per rgambs suggested data experiment, given population similiarities.....

    Ohio has just half the number of confirmed cases as Sweden does according WHO numbers linked in the Gaurdian article......

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    dankind said:
    @rgambs Got an ETA on your research project?
    Hahaha I was going to wait until at least one of them had reached peak.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,456
    mcgruff10 said:
    "This is the first global crisis in the post-America world, when we don't have any american leadership. We had the ebola outbreak in 2014-2015 - with a strong american leadership facing that crisis. The US was important, to mobilise and to call on meetings in the UN Security Council. Now all that is history."

    - Carl Bildt
    There is plenty of leadership from approx 44 of both republican and Democratic governors. 
    How much power did they have to act on the behalf of the US on the world scene during e.g. the Ebola outbreak? Haven't seen many governors rocking meetings at the UN Security Council. Or taking a leadership position in an international coalition to stop a humanitarian crisis, in e.g. West Africa. But could be wrong. 
    I just find your post so hypocritical.  You defend your country's bad decisions blindly.  You actually poked fun at my home state where people are dying left and right.  
    Why is it that you can make a jab at my government for not getting involved with West Africa (seriously that was your rebuttal) but it is ok for your country to do whatever the fuck it wants when it comes to covid 19?  
    Like I said, there is plenty of leadership to go around except for states like TN, Wyoming, Utah, etc.  Washington's governor did an awesome job.  Where I live, the combined states CT, NY and NJ all responded well and in a timely manner.  Seems like your country for whatever reason has something to prove but in the end it could potentially kill a lot of people.  
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  • I think he was talking globally.


    Today was another bad day here...getting worse before it gets better 
    F the SARS-CoV-2 virus!
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    There are reports of the virus damaging not only the lungs, but the heart muscle as well. 

  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    @rgambs Got an ETA on your research project?
    Hahaha I was going to wait until at least one of them had reached peak.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    edited April 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    "This is the first global crisis in the post-America world, when we don't have any american leadership. We had the ebola outbreak in 2014-2015 - with a strong american leadership facing that crisis. The US was important, to mobilise and to call on meetings in the UN Security Council. Now all that is history."

    - Carl Bildt
    There is plenty of leadership from approx 44 of both republican and Democratic governors. 
    How much power did they have to act on the behalf of the US on the world scene during e.g. the Ebola outbreak? Haven't seen many governors rocking meetings at the UN Security Council. Or taking a leadership position in an international coalition to stop a humanitarian crisis, in e.g. West Africa. But could be wrong. 
    I just find your post so hypocritical.  You defend your country's bad decisions blindly.  You actually poked fun at my home state where people are dying left and right.  
    Why is it that you can make a jab at my government for not getting involved with West Africa (seriously that was your rebuttal) but it is ok for your country to do whatever the fuck it wants when it comes to covid 19?  
    Like I said, there is plenty of leadership to go around except for states like TN, Wyoming, Utah, etc.  Washington's governor did an awesome job.  Where I live, the combined states CT, NY and NJ all responded well and in a timely manner.  Seems like your country for whatever reason has something to prove but in the end it could potentially kill a lot of people.  
    I don't defend anything my country does blindly.
    I have not poked fun in any way. Except maybe at Kat in the videogame thread.
    Your. government. WAS. GETTING. INVOLVED. in. West. Africa. That. is. the. point. of. the. mans. quote.

    What has your local governments doing a good job, with the former prime minister and foreign minister of Sweden considering America's role as a strong standfast leader on the global scene during humanitarian criseses being gone with Trump in charge and us now going through our first global crisis in this post-America world? 

    Couldn't suspect that quote hurting someone's patriotic pride.

    You missed the people laughing at Trump at the UN speech?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,470
    bbiggs said:
    There are reports of the virus damaging not only the lungs, but the heart muscle as well. 

    I'm gonna stay in for the entire April.

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,384
    By the way, we should all be rooting for Sweden to be correct. Not only would it mean no incremental deaths, but also that we could get some degree of normalcy back quicker. That said, the self-assuredness of those commentors needs to be dialed back about 80% for this stage of the crisis.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,456
    The article is too long to be copied but it does go through all the theories:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/us/coronavirus-scientists-debate-origin-theories-invs/index.html

    How did coronavirus break out? Theories abound as researchers race to solve genetic detective story

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,332
    brianlux said:

    Oh shit.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,588
    Another election thread closed. The poor mods must feel like kindergarten teachers with some of you guys. 

    Still trying to figure out why the democratic debate thread got canned. Oh well, old world problems.
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