The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos

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gimmesometruth27

Ray J. T. said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

Moving on, what's this I hear about Trump wanting everyone to go back to work in "a couple of weeks"?  Is this for real?  Nationwide or do states get to choose?  I don't understand the point of isolating for only a short time.  How does that "flatten the curve"?

it's because he is a god damn fucking moron. he cannot think beyond himself. he has 6 of 7 revenue producing properties shut down. he is thinking about his own wealth and his own business. he cares not for the american people, only himself. and he will find a way to go against the experts because his base trusts trump and his gut feelings.

my prediction is he will open things up a bit next week. cases will spike. and then he will criticize states for opening things up and will say that he never said to relax any restrictions. 

 Prediction sounds like it is spot on. This is his M.O. 

yeah i have watched him for a few years and have him figured out. he always does the same pattern. get involved in something he knows nothing about, speaks optimistically about said issue, ignoring facts and using gut feelings, issue gets worse, deflects all possible blame for his failure to act or for acting in the opposite way he should have. wash, rinse, repeat. on to the next emergency.

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

josevolution said:

If the Baffoon wants everything to start up in two weeks let him be the 1st to show up at a restaurant full of people let him be the 1st to sit at sporting even in the regular seats not in a private box, he’s no leader that’s for damn sure! This country doesn’t need him one bit the governor’s have already proven that! 

It’s actually one week because he’s referring to it beginning last week.

Listening to trump say “we are America and we are not built for a shutdown” sounds a lot like “we the wealthy demand our slave labor back to work.”

let’s let the economists dictate how to get out of a health emergency. Typical American bull$hit. Too bad if that means millions more die and a second wave kills more and a different age group. To quote a famous republican, oops.

for any pro business person thinking economists should dictate how we get out of a healthcare nightmare, consider if you are a business leader or owner, and you are saying we should not listen to the Health specialists and re socialize soon...

...consider I will never buy your product again and will tell everyone I know to tell everyone they know to do same. I will endlessly comment on the 4th largest website in America and continue to pass the word about your choice of business over lives.

further, I will not be attending any sporting events nor going to any restaurants

im sure millions will act in the same way. How you think the economy recovers under those conditions?

So what about the people living paycheck to paycheck that desperately need to get back to work? How about the people that don’t have a pile of money to weather this storm?  There is clearly not hope of a safety net or recovery for the poor and lower middle class here in America. Is it horrible for us to want to go back to work because even though the money isn’t coming in anymore the bills are still rolling in like clockwork?  I’m all for continuing the self isolation if you can guarantee that millions of working Americans won’t come out of it financially insolvent or bankrupt or worse.  It’s not just the stockbrokers and ultra rich that want the economy running it is also the people with bills to pay that don’t want to end in poverty.  If the wealthy and corporations among us and the government want to get together and make a security net I say keep the quarantine going.  If you want millions of Americans to have to honor their debts, bills and buy necessary items like food etc with no money coming in that is not going to fly for long. 

Everyone is talking about trump and republicans and economists but no one is looking at the poor and working class it seems.

Are they better off dead after committing multiple murders? 

Lol because going to work is the same as murdering.  Quite extreme.  So protecting the lives of people from the virus is more important than protecting people’s lives and livelihoods from the economic impact? Check.
Let me guess you are financially set to get through this for the long haul?  or are a member of an at risk populations?  What about the at risk poor and working class that may not make it through an extended shut down? Or are the needs of them less important?

If you are really worried about murdering really take a step outside your immediate reaction and think what will happen if millions plunge into financial ruin. I’m sure they will be so busy breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for staying inside and going broke to do anything drastic.  

As ever before. I am all for extending the quarantine if there is a safety net for those in immediate or short term financial risk.  If not people are gonna have to do something. And it won’t be their fault if people die. It will be the fault of The credit card companies, landlords and banks that continue demanding money when none comes in. As well as our elected leaders for doing nothing.  If I have to go to work to keep myself and my family from financial ruin like millions of others and the option is there I will. And that won’t make me or anyone else a monster or a horrible person.  

Ray J. T.

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ray J. T. said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

Moving on, what's this I hear about Trump wanting everyone to go back to work in "a couple of weeks"?  Is this for real?  Nationwide or do states get to choose?  I don't understand the point of isolating for only a short time.  How does that "flatten the curve"?

it's because he is a god damn fucking moron. he cannot think beyond himself. he has 6 of 7 revenue producing properties shut down. he is thinking about his own wealth and his own business. he cares not for the american people, only himself. and he will find a way to go against the experts because his base trusts trump and his gut feelings.

my prediction is he will open things up a bit next week. cases will spike. and then he will criticize states for opening things up and will say that he never said to relax any restrictions. 

 Prediction sounds like it is spot on. This is his M.O. 

yeah i have watched him for a few years and have him figured out. he always does the same pattern. get involved in something he knows nothing about, speaks optimistically about said issue, ignoring facts and using gut feelings, issue gets worse, deflects all possible blame for his failure to act or for acting in the opposite way he should have. wash, rinse, repeat. on to the next emergency.

All anyone has to do is follow everything he has said and done since having to deal with the crisis at hand from day 1. He continues to deflect and attack the reporters and journalists and yell "fake news" and that they simply want to report sensationalism. 

Mikemzl91

mcgruff10 said:

Mikemzl91 said:

Beer pong?
Speaking of which, I love pouring whiskey into beer pong cups when no one is looking. Makes it way more fun to watch.

The drunkest I ever was in my life is when after we ran out of beer we decided to play beer pong with 151 and coke.  I was hungover for days.  

I hear ya, I've been there.
That stuff will put some hair on your feet!!

JPPJ84

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I'm thinking about using the little money I have saved to buy an apartment... and instead ask and see what the restaurant my mom got laid off think they need to survive with rent costs etc and lend them money instead (if that is a possibility). To save my moms last years of being able to work, and the social aspects of her work that she will miss. 

I am worried about what will happen to her if being stuck in unemployment these last years untill pension.

Stupid idea?

I think it’s a wonderful motivation but not the best idea. And I’m not sure she‘d want you to do it. Is it more the financial or social factor that worries you? If it’s the latter I’m sure she can find wonderful volunteer work where she can be useful

mcgruff10

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

dignin

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Mikemzl91 said:

Beer pong?
Speaking of which, I love pouring whiskey into beer pong cups when no one is looking. Makes it way more fun to watch.

That would be painful.

Because whiskey tastes like shit.

Shut your filthy mouth.

Just in case.

Ray J. T.

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

Merkin Baller

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

josevolution said:

If the Baffoon wants everything to start up in two weeks let him be the 1st to show up at a restaurant full of people let him be the 1st to sit at sporting even in the regular seats not in a private box, he’s no leader that’s for damn sure! This country doesn’t need him one bit the governor’s have already proven that! 

It’s actually one week because he’s referring to it beginning last week.

Listening to trump say “we are America and we are not built for a shutdown” sounds a lot like “we the wealthy demand our slave labor back to work.”

let’s let the economists dictate how to get out of a health emergency. Typical American bull$hit. Too bad if that means millions more die and a second wave kills more and a different age group. To quote a famous republican, oops.

for any pro business person thinking economists should dictate how we get out of a healthcare nightmare, consider if you are a business leader or owner, and you are saying we should not listen to the Health specialists and re socialize soon...

...consider I will never buy your product again and will tell everyone I know to tell everyone they know to do same. I will endlessly comment on the 4th largest website in America and continue to pass the word about your choice of business over lives.

further, I will not be attending any sporting events nor going to any restaurants

im sure millions will act in the same way. How you think the economy recovers under those conditions?

So what about the people living paycheck to paycheck that desperately need to get back to work? How about the people that don’t have a pile of money to weather this storm?  There is clearly not hope of a safety net or recovery for the poor and lower middle class here in America. Is it horrible for us to want to go back to work because even though the money isn’t coming in anymore the bills are still rolling in like clockwork?  I’m all for continuing the self isolation if you can guarantee that millions of working Americans won’t come out of it financially insolvent or bankrupt or worse.  It’s not just the stockbrokers and ultra rich that want the economy running it is also the people with bills to pay that don’t want to end in poverty.  If the wealthy and corporations among us and the government want to get together and make a security net I say keep the quarantine going.  If you want millions of Americans to have to honor their debts, bills and buy necessary items like food etc with no money coming in that is not going to fly for long. 

Everyone is talking about trump and republicans and economists but no one is looking at the poor and working class it seems.

Are they better off dead after committing multiple murders? 

Lol because going to work is the same as murdering.  Quite extreme.  So protecting the lives of people from the virus is more important than protecting people’s lives and livelihoods from the economic impact? Check.
Let me guess you are financially set to get through this for the long haul?  or are a member of an at risk populations?  What about the at risk poor and working class that may not make it through an extended shut down? Or are the needs of them less important?

If you are really worried about murdering really take a step outside your immediate reaction and think what will happen if millions plunge into financial ruin. I’m sure they will be so busy breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for staying inside and going broke to do anything drastic.  

As ever before. I am all for extending the quarantine if there is a safety net for those in immediate or short term financial risk.  If not people are gonna have to do something. And it won’t be their fault if people die. It will be the fault of The credit card companies, landlords and banks that continue demanding money when none comes in. As well as our elected leaders for doing nothing.  If I have to go to work to keep myself and my family from financial ruin like millions of others and the option is there I will. And that won’t make me or anyone else a monster or a horrible person.  

Your points are valid, but what do you think is going to happen if everyone goes back to work and the virus keeps spreading?

Do you think the economy is going to bounce back with an incredibly contagious disease crippling our hospitals?

Do you think people are going to be going to bars and restaurants in this scenario?

I agree there needs to be a safety net for people most affected, but the only way to address this virus is to contain it.

mcgruff10

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

static111

Merkin Baller said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

josevolution said:

If the Baffoon wants everything to start up in two weeks let him be the 1st to show up at a restaurant full of people let him be the 1st to sit at sporting even in the regular seats not in a private box, he’s no leader that’s for damn sure! This country doesn’t need him one bit the governor’s have already proven that! 

It’s actually one week because he’s referring to it beginning last week.

Listening to trump say “we are America and we are not built for a shutdown” sounds a lot like “we the wealthy demand our slave labor back to work.”

let’s let the economists dictate how to get out of a health emergency. Typical American bull$hit. Too bad if that means millions more die and a second wave kills more and a different age group. To quote a famous republican, oops.

for any pro business person thinking economists should dictate how we get out of a healthcare nightmare, consider if you are a business leader or owner, and you are saying we should not listen to the Health specialists and re socialize soon...

...consider I will never buy your product again and will tell everyone I know to tell everyone they know to do same. I will endlessly comment on the 4th largest website in America and continue to pass the word about your choice of business over lives.

further, I will not be attending any sporting events nor going to any restaurants

im sure millions will act in the same way. How you think the economy recovers under those conditions?

So what about the people living paycheck to paycheck that desperately need to get back to work? How about the people that don’t have a pile of money to weather this storm?  There is clearly not hope of a safety net or recovery for the poor and lower middle class here in America. Is it horrible for us to want to go back to work because even though the money isn’t coming in anymore the bills are still rolling in like clockwork?  I’m all for continuing the self isolation if you can guarantee that millions of working Americans won’t come out of it financially insolvent or bankrupt or worse.  It’s not just the stockbrokers and ultra rich that want the economy running it is also the people with bills to pay that don’t want to end in poverty.  If the wealthy and corporations among us and the government want to get together and make a security net I say keep the quarantine going.  If you want millions of Americans to have to honor their debts, bills and buy necessary items like food etc with no money coming in that is not going to fly for long. 

Everyone is talking about trump and republicans and economists but no one is looking at the poor and working class it seems.

Are they better off dead after committing multiple murders? 

Lol because going to work is the same as murdering.  Quite extreme.  So protecting the lives of people from the virus is more important than protecting people’s lives and livelihoods from the economic impact? Check.
Let me guess you are financially set to get through this for the long haul?  or are a member of an at risk populations?  What about the at risk poor and working class that may not make it through an extended shut down? Or are the needs of them less important?

If you are really worried about murdering really take a step outside your immediate reaction and think what will happen if millions plunge into financial ruin. I’m sure they will be so busy breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for staying inside and going broke to do anything drastic.  

As ever before. I am all for extending the quarantine if there is a safety net for those in immediate or short term financial risk.  If not people are gonna have to do something. And it won’t be their fault if people die. It will be the fault of The credit card companies, landlords and banks that continue demanding money when none comes in. As well as our elected leaders for doing nothing.  If I have to go to work to keep myself and my family from financial ruin like millions of others and the option is there I will. And that won’t make me or anyone else a monster or a horrible person.  

Your points are valid, but what do you think is going to happen if everyone goes back to work and the virus keeps spreading?

Do you think the economy is going to bounce back with an incredibly contagious disease crippling our hospitals?

Do you think people are going to be going to bars and restaurants in this scenario?

I agree there needs to be a safety net for people most affected, but the only way to address this virus is to contain it.

I agree 💯 bit it seems like not many people are thinking about anything but the virus itself. Either option is horrible going back to work or indefinite quarantine. No one has a moral high ground here. This really illustrates our broken political system like nothing I’ve seen as well as the class divide. I’ve written letters to my senators.  Cruz and Cormyn. Fat lot of good those  idiots are gonna do.  No sector of the population is more important than the other. People in charge need to make some drastic measures. 

F Me In The Brain

mcgruff10 said:

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

That was stocked up on, early on. 

I have not been anywhere around other people in about a week. (Don't remember what day it was - was very careful and washed just as I got back, cleaned anything I touched on my way back in.)  Had to go to CVS to pick up a prescription for the 5 yr old.

Before that it was...perhaps the 14th since I went out?  My wife went out on the 15th but has not since. 

(Running myself or walks with the family notwithstanding.) 

Strange times.

Shocked that nobody we know has it yet.  Especially some of my wife's mouth-breathing, fucking hillbilly, extended family in South Jersey -- they continued as if nothing was going on, despite what we said, until the governor ordered shit to change this weekend.

bbiggs

mcgruff10 said:

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

My local shop took my order and credit card payment over the phone, I backed my car in, opened the trunk and they placed it in my trunk. Literally zero contact. Worth a shot to see if your shop will do that if you know what you want in advance. Stay safe 

CM189191

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Gern Blansten

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

That was stocked up on, early on. 

I have not been anywhere around other people in about a week. (Don't remember what day it was - was very careful and washed just as I got back, cleaned anything I touched on my way back in.)  Had to go to CVS to pick up a prescription for the 5 yr old.

Before that it was...perhaps the 14th since I went out?  My wife went out on the 15th but has not since. 

(Running myself or walks with the family notwithstanding.) 

Strange times.

Shocked that nobody we know has it yet.  Especially some of my wife's mouth-breathing, fucking hillbilly, extended family in South Jersey -- they continued as if nothing was going on, despite what we said, until the governor ordered shit to change this weekend.

The "do you know anyone that has it?" line is going around in the right wing circles.  That's how they are trying to call this an overreaction.

CM189191

Gern Blansten said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

That was stocked up on, early on. 

I have not been anywhere around other people in about a week. (Don't remember what day it was - was very careful and washed just as I got back, cleaned anything I touched on my way back in.)  Had to go to CVS to pick up a prescription for the 5 yr old.

Before that it was...perhaps the 14th since I went out?  My wife went out on the 15th but has not since. 

(Running myself or walks with the family notwithstanding.) 

Strange times.

Shocked that nobody we know has it yet.  Especially some of my wife's mouth-breathing, fucking hillbilly, extended family in South Jersey -- they continued as if nothing was going on, despite what we said, until the governor ordered shit to change this weekend.

The "do you know anyone that has it?" line is going around in the right wing circles.  That's how they are trying to call this an overreaction.

typical conservative mentality

'it's not an issue until it affects me personally'

Ray J. T.

mcgruff10 said:

Ray J. T. said:

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey up to 3,675 cases, 2nd most in the nation. 

 Stay safe out there mcgruff. Doesn't look like things are going to get any better out there any time soon with your neighbor NY already up to 25,000+ cases. They are expecting to see the worse yet to come in NY in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully we will see FDA drug approvals to help combat this sooner than later. 

It is definitely nerve racking here, I havent been in contact with anyone in a few days. Will continue that trend Although a liquor store run is imminent.  

Just make sure that the next run to the liquor store will be one to hold you over for a substantial amount of time. Stay safe. 

brianlux

stuckinline said:

brianlux said:

This had been a great thread where we can come together and share our experiences and concerns about the COVID-19 virus.  Now, all of the sudden, it's becoming infected with it's own virus- arguments over a few simple comments about celebrities with COVID-19.  If Eddie Vedder gets COVID-19 will we see the same nasty comments?  Jesus H, people, isn't this a hard enough time without some of you coming here just to be nasty?  Fuck that.

@brianlux Absolutely agree. Hope all is well with you and your family and friends.

Thank you!  I hope you and yours are also doing well.

Best wishes to all here.  Stay strong, stay well, be realistic but let's also be supportive and positive. 

Merkin Baller

static111 said:

Merkin Baller said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

josevolution said:

If the Baffoon wants everything to start up in two weeks let him be the 1st to show up at a restaurant full of people let him be the 1st to sit at sporting even in the regular seats not in a private box, he’s no leader that’s for damn sure! This country doesn’t need him one bit the governor’s have already proven that! 

It’s actually one week because he’s referring to it beginning last week.

Listening to trump say “we are America and we are not built for a shutdown” sounds a lot like “we the wealthy demand our slave labor back to work.”

let’s let the economists dictate how to get out of a health emergency. Typical American bull$hit. Too bad if that means millions more die and a second wave kills more and a different age group. To quote a famous republican, oops.

for any pro business person thinking economists should dictate how we get out of a healthcare nightmare, consider if you are a business leader or owner, and you are saying we should not listen to the Health specialists and re socialize soon...

...consider I will never buy your product again and will tell everyone I know to tell everyone they know to do same. I will endlessly comment on the 4th largest website in America and continue to pass the word about your choice of business over lives.

further, I will not be attending any sporting events nor going to any restaurants

im sure millions will act in the same way. How you think the economy recovers under those conditions?

So what about the people living paycheck to paycheck that desperately need to get back to work? How about the people that don’t have a pile of money to weather this storm?  There is clearly not hope of a safety net or recovery for the poor and lower middle class here in America. Is it horrible for us to want to go back to work because even though the money isn’t coming in anymore the bills are still rolling in like clockwork?  I’m all for continuing the self isolation if you can guarantee that millions of working Americans won’t come out of it financially insolvent or bankrupt or worse.  It’s not just the stockbrokers and ultra rich that want the economy running it is also the people with bills to pay that don’t want to end in poverty.  If the wealthy and corporations among us and the government want to get together and make a security net I say keep the quarantine going.  If you want millions of Americans to have to honor their debts, bills and buy necessary items like food etc with no money coming in that is not going to fly for long. 

Everyone is talking about trump and republicans and economists but no one is looking at the poor and working class it seems.

Are they better off dead after committing multiple murders? 

Lol because going to work is the same as murdering.  Quite extreme.  So protecting the lives of people from the virus is more important than protecting people’s lives and livelihoods from the economic impact? Check.
Let me guess you are financially set to get through this for the long haul?  or are a member of an at risk populations?  What about the at risk poor and working class that may not make it through an extended shut down? Or are the needs of them less important?

If you are really worried about murdering really take a step outside your immediate reaction and think what will happen if millions plunge into financial ruin. I’m sure they will be so busy breaking their arms patting themselves on the back for staying inside and going broke to do anything drastic.  

As ever before. I am all for extending the quarantine if there is a safety net for those in immediate or short term financial risk.  If not people are gonna have to do something. And it won’t be their fault if people die. It will be the fault of The credit card companies, landlords and banks that continue demanding money when none comes in. As well as our elected leaders for doing nothing.  If I have to go to work to keep myself and my family from financial ruin like millions of others and the option is there I will. And that won’t make me or anyone else a monster or a horrible person.  

Your points are valid, but what do you think is going to happen if everyone goes back to work and the virus keeps spreading?

Do you think the economy is going to bounce back with an incredibly contagious disease crippling our hospitals?

Do you think people are going to be going to bars and restaurants in this scenario?

I agree there needs to be a safety net for people most affected, but the only way to address this virus is to contain it.

I agree 💯 bit it seems like not many people are thinking about anything but the virus itself. Either option is horrible going back to work or indefinite quarantine. No one has a moral high ground here. This really illustrates our broken political system like nothing I’ve seen as well as the class divide. I’ve written letters to my senators.  Cruz and Cormyn. Fat lot of good those  idiots are gonna do.  No sector of the population is more important than the other. People in charge need to make some drastic measures. 

But I don't think anyone is talking about "indefinite quarantine".

Unless I'm mistaken, other countries have seen positive results after several weeks of aggressive lockdowns.

Going back to work may solve some financial problems for a lot of people in the short term, but what good will that be if the virus rages unchecked forcing companies to close (again) and killing hundreds of thousands if not millions?

If it doesn't get contained more sooner than later, you can kiss any hope of a healthy economy goodbye for years.

The longer we wait to aggressively approach this, the worse it will get in all aspects, including the economic toll.