Fan-To-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange

ddeschler

I'm anxious to see how this F2F goes.  I wish it was starting next week instead of Feb 18.  Being "ticket insecure" is stressful.  My life may just be me and a screen, and a plastic bird purchased to hit F5 for me.

Gern Blansten

JBob87 said:

ritg19 said:

It seems to me that once everyone receives their tickets, 10C, Verified Fan or General, there will be no more distinction between a "fan club" ticket and others.  All bets are off after that.  No one can transfer a ticket in name only (ex CO and NY).  The only option is to put it up for an anonymous face value sale on the Fan to Fan exchange which will include ALL tickets (10C, Verified or General).  I have to think the amount of tickets available on Fan to Fan will always be pretty small for shows.  How many people are buying a ticket to just sell it for face?  Probably those that got 10C tickets and weren't sure they were able to go, but did so just in case.  And very likely those will be snatched up really quickly for face since the seats are better than any non member could have gotten.       

Agree fully with your view. Secondary market is going to be weird. Expect most will fly off of the fan to fan exchange especially for sold out shows. I assume it is going to be a random crapshoot. I’m not seeing any way to actually scalp a ticket to this? Stubhub might not exist for these shows. Unless I am missing something. Which is both great in the sense that more people get in for face but means high 10c #s like me basically have no ability to upgrade beyond constantly refreshing the exchange and praying. 

I think you are right...there is currently no listing on Stubhub except for CO and NY

RS65573

So now F5 lasts 2 months instead of a couple hours. Gotta love the new system.

kotton_crown

mrvector said:

PJNB said:

You guys that are ok with this system and know you are going to a show are not factoring in that now a lot more people are going to be hurting your GA or reserved odds without a care. In the past if people did not know (most did this) they were going to be able to make a show they did not put in for it and waited till they knew to find at ticket on the forum. Now they will put in and just sell the ticket not caring that they hurt the odds and chances of people that they knew 100% for sure that they were going. There is a lot good with the new system that they have in place but this is an awful choice imo. 

Except it's not like booking a hotel room with a free cancelation policy. You still have to pay the money upfront for these tickets and then find a buyer on this yet to be seen ticket exchange. Since the tickets aren't transferable (outside of NY and Den) there is still inherent risk in getting more tickets than you're prepared to use. I think the vague nature of the exchange system will be enough of a deterrent to protect against it. What if, for instance, the exchange is only 10c members? If the Res odds for the shows stay as high as they are, and most people get their requests fulfilled, the market on that exchange may not be what people think it is.

I think your real gripe is that more people will be putting GA because it doesn't hurt their overall odds. I had planned to do Res for both shows thinking it would give me a better chance in the old system. But with the new one, I can do Best Available and get GA if it's there without hurting my odds at Res. Works well for someone like me, doesn't work well for someone who is GA or bust and now has twice as large of a pool to compete with. 

Are people who do 1st priority BA winning general admission over people who do 1st priority GA? That doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

LaFleur

Patachou said:

Please consider me if you can't make it to Quebec (if at all possible) As I didn't score in my home town. I would be so extremely grateful M. Torontonian. 

There are many seats still available for QC - probably only slightly over half full. So if you don't have VF, i'm sure there will be lots to choose from tomorrow.

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

If you are looking for a single, my advice would be to try and hook up with someone from the board over using the Fan 2 Fan exchange.  Does anyone think scalpers won't be running bots on the fan 2 fan exchange to scoop up anything decent that shows up for hot markets?

tdawe

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

If you are looking for a single, my advice would be to try and hook up with someone from the board over using the Fan 2 Fan exchange.  Does anyone think scalpers won't be running bots on the fan 2 fan exchange to scoop up anything decent that shows up for hot markets?

Why would they do that though?

LaFleur

jamesbrown1832 said:

Patachou said:

Please consider me if you can't make it to Quebec (if at all possible) As I didn't score in my home town. I would be so extremely grateful M. Torontonian. 

There are many seats still available for QC - probably only slightly over half full. So if you don't have VF, i'm sure there will be lots to choose from tomorrow.

This is as of right now:

ddeschler

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

BennyLaRue

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

Best sig ever, BTW. Thank you for not making me scroll past 42 shows double spaced, or whatever.

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

tdawe

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

You'd have to be insane to spend real money on that arrangement.

on2legs

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

Or this one for $900 - they have to be 10 Club seats since he has no idea where they are yet.

'This sale is for 2 Pearl Jam Full View Tickets for Saturday 3/28/20 Royal Farms Arena Baltimore. Tickets will be somewhere in the arena and give you full view of the stage.  They WILL NOT be behind the stage or side view."

Gern Blansten

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

That's crazy....it does beg the question if these tighter controls might end up with fans getting completely hosed for tickets rather than just having to pay a premium through stub hub, etc.  

rollings

NewfieintheUSA said:

Torontonian said:

I have a question.  Say I get 2 tickets and cannot make the show.  Can I sell both my Ten Club ticket and my guest Ten Club ticket for face value via the Exchange or only the guest ticket and I must eat my Ten Club ticket?  This would help me decide on what shows I pick knowing that if I can't make it to Quebec I can at least sell both tickets for face value and help someone else out at the same time.

I'm pretty certain you won't be able to sell just 1 ticket if you put in for 2, since it's clear that the tickets will be tied to one barcode

That's not true. There is one barcode per ticket. They will all have to remain on the purchasers phone. And if you bought two tickets you CAN sell only one

RS65573

Gern Blansten said:

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

That's crazy....it does beg the question if these tighter controls might end up with fans getting completely hosed for tickets rather than just having to pay a premium through stub hub, etc.  

That seems to be whats happening for in demand shows.

PearlJutt

on2legs said:

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

Or this one for $900 - they have to be 10 Club seats since he has no idea where they are yet.

'This sale is for 2 Pearl Jam Full View Tickets for Saturday 3/28/20 Royal Farms Arena Baltimore. Tickets will be somewhere in the arena and give you full view of the stage.  They WILL NOT be behind the stage or side view."

This is very upsetting as a 20+ yr member and true diehard loyalist. I can’t get in , yet this clown somehow has tickets ? 

CantKeepmedown

Jeez, at this point I hope I can just get rid of my Quebec reserved seats. Hopefully the public sale will fill up those seats!

PB11041

on2legs said:

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

Or this one for $900 - they have to be 10 Club seats since he has no idea where they are yet.

'This sale is for 2 Pearl Jam Full View Tickets for Saturday 3/28/20 Royal Farms Arena Baltimore. Tickets will be somewhere in the arena and give you full view of the stage.  They WILL NOT be behind the stage or side view."

I am not sure what is more crazy, paying thousands of dollars to hopefully access some turds account the day of the show or buying an old ticket stub for like $30.  people are crazy

on2legs

PearlJutt said:

on2legs said:

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:

ddeschler said:

There won't be any market for scalpers outside NY and CO, with the bar codes on the tickets changing.  Stubhub isn't even listing shows outside those states.  I'm thinking the scalpers/bots may dump back tickets into the F2F when they realize there is no $ to be made.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Scalpers are not going to roll over without a fight.  Check Ebay.  Tix for every show with notes like this:

*The buyer will be given the Ticketmaster account to use for the show. Price is for all 4 tickets.

Or this one for $900 - they have to be 10 Club seats since he has no idea where they are yet.

'This sale is for 2 Pearl Jam Full View Tickets for Saturday 3/28/20 Royal Farms Arena Baltimore. Tickets will be somewhere in the arena and give you full view of the stage.  They WILL NOT be behind the stage or side view."

This is very upsetting as a 20+ yr member and true diehard loyalist. I can’t get in , yet this clown somehow has tickets ? 

Same clown also has Baltimore Pit tickets too... only $2850.