Fan-To-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange

halshakarchi

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

Gern Blansten

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

huh?  How could they when CO and NY don't allow restrictions?  C'mon man....

detemaster3

So whack. Incredibly disappointed on this whole process on both sides.

tdawe

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

If TM had opened a fan exchange for NY and CO, people who held those tickets would have had the option to transfer them to strangers at face value instead of selling them at a markup on StubHub.

Since TM is not opening the exchange for those shows, anyone who wants to transfer their tickets to strangers at face value has the option of just listing them on StubHub for face value. 

mpedone

tdawe said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

If TM had opened a fan exchange for NY and CO, people who held those tickets would have had the option to transfer them to strangers at face value instead of selling them at a markup on StubHub.

Since TM is not opening the exchange for those shows, anyone who wants to transfer their tickets to strangers at face value has the option of just listing them on StubHub for face value. 

Yeah, it is entirely possible that people are holding back, thinking they can sell on the F2F site.

Lerxst1992

halshakarchi said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

PJ knows the laws
PJ sets the dates
PJ decided to do an extremely light N.east run after 4 years of no arena shows
PJ could have picked Newark 
PJ decided not to bundle fall dates w/ spring for NYC to lower odds
PJ wanted to bask in the bright lights of Broadway when Gigaton is released.

Other than that, I'm in full agreement. $20,000 tickets and no face value exchange are NYS fault.

MR242791

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

does this mean i can't trade my Toronto ten club ticket for an MSG ten club ticket?

halshakarchi

MR242791 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

does this mean i can't trade my Toronto ten club ticket for an MSG ten club ticket?

You can’t trade tickets period. You only buy and sell them on the fan to fan exchange. And yes, NY tickets are excluded.

Gern Blansten

Lerxst1992 said:

halshakarchi said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

PJ knows the laws
PJ sets the dates
PJ decided to do an extremely light N.east run after 4 years of no arena shows
PJ could have picked Newark 
PJ decided not to bundle fall dates w/ spring for NYC to lower odds
PJ wanted to bask in the bright lights of Broadway when Gigaton is released.

Other than that, I'm in full agreement. $20,000 tickets and no face value exchange are NYS fault.

Interesting logic....so you give them credit for the dates in every other state?  They should have boycotted NY and CO and shut you out anyway?

mpedone

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

halshakarchi said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

PJ knows the laws
PJ sets the dates
PJ decided to do an extremely light N.east run after 4 years of no arena shows
PJ could have picked Newark 
PJ decided not to bundle fall dates w/ spring for NYC to lower odds
PJ wanted to bask in the bright lights of Broadway when Gigaton is released.

Other than that, I'm in full agreement. $20,000 tickets and no face value exchange are NYS fault.

Interesting logic....so you give them credit for the dates in every other state?  They should have boycotted NY and CO and shut you out anyway?

They could have just not toured this Spring, released the album closer to the European dates, and avoided all of this.

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

halshakarchi said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

PJ knows the laws
PJ sets the dates
PJ decided to do an extremely light N.east run after 4 years of no arena shows
PJ could have picked Newark 
PJ decided not to bundle fall dates w/ spring for NYC to lower odds
PJ wanted to bask in the bright lights of Broadway when Gigaton is released.

Other than that, I'm in full agreement. $20,000 tickets and no face value exchange are NYS fault.

Interesting logic....so you give them credit for the dates in every other state?  They should have boycotted NY and CO and shut you out anyway?

Just listing the decisions made. I can go to Balt, but it's getting tiring with the travel. So I'm ok with missing out.

NY is partially to blame and as this hasn't happened before IIRC not sure the NY legislature could have predicted this perfect  storm of decisions.

nicknyr15

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

foodboy

for the 2 cities that had transfers venue pick up might have been a choice to consider.

JimmyV

The "Skip New York And Minimize Complaints Tour" coming Fall 2020

pjsteelerfan

JimmyV said:

The "Skip New York And Minimize Complaints Tour" coming Fall 2020

All NY Shows will now be at the Prudential center.  

Or just one big show at the Meadowlands. 

tdawe

foodboy said:

for the 2 cities that had transfers venue pick up might have been a choice to consider.

Yes, I am not clear on why they wouldn't have done this. 

Lerxst1992

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

Good luck!

There were some 200s behind the stage I fantasized paying $740 for over the weekend. Cheaper than flying to Quebec 

I checked earlier and the SOB raised the full price to $797.

JimmyV

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

Lerxst1992

JimmyV said:

The "Skip New York And Minimize Complaints Tour" coming Fall 2020

They do Fenway again you can have my mediocre number. JK. I'm a lifer.

Lerxst1992

tdawe said:

foodboy said:

for the 2 cities that had transfers venue pick up might have been a choice to consider.

Yes, I am not clear on why they wouldn't have done this. 

Everyone is in love with everything electronic. 

tdawe

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

But it doesn't matter whether the Fan To Fan Exchange is set up in NY or not. Even if it was, people who wanted to sell their tickets would have no reason to use it when they could just use StubHub.

JimmyV

tdawe said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

But it doesn't matter whether the Fan To Fan Exchange is set up in NY or not. Even if it was, people who wanted to sell their tickets would have no reason to use it when they could just use StubHub.

This is a good point. 

nicknyr15

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

I guess, that’s very true.  I just don’t want to wait too long. It’s frustrating. But I’ll be in the building one way or another. I’ll try to be patient and try a little more on the forum. 

nicknyr15

tdawe said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

But it doesn't matter whether the Fan To Fan Exchange is set up in NY or not. Even if it was, people who wanted to sell their tickets would have no reason to use it when they could just use StubHub.

This is another good point. Between that and the fans that are trying to trade their EXTRA msg tickets for other shows, it’s making me want to jump on a pair from stubhub. I will do my best to wait a little longer. It’s a weird situation to be in fir me honestly

One thing I know I won’t do , is not be a 10c member anymore because of this haha. And if I did decide to do that , I promise all of you I will go quietly and not start another thread announcing my departure 

MR242791

halshakarchi said:

MR242791 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

does this mean i can't trade my Toronto ten club ticket for an MSG ten club ticket?

You can’t trade tickets period. You only buy and sell them on the fan to fan exchange. And yes, NY tickets are excluded.

oh that sucks

Lerxst1992

tdawe said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

But it doesn't matter whether the Fan To Fan Exchange is set up in NY or not. Even if it was, people who wanted to sell their tickets would have no reason to use it when they could just use StubHub.

Some fans will want to respect the wishes of their face value only beloved band and not want to deal with the hassle of having an extra $20,000 in their pockets.

tdawe

Lerxst1992 said:

tdawe said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

F2F was my last hope. I guess no point in waiting until 2/18. Time to bite the bullet on stubhub 

You have more faith in this guy from reddit than I do. 

But it doesn't matter whether the Fan To Fan Exchange is set up in NY or not. Even if it was, people who wanted to sell their tickets would have no reason to use it when they could just use StubHub.

Some fans will want to respect the wishes of their face value only beloved band and not want to deal with the hassle of having an extra $20,000 in their pockets.

Those hypothetical people are free to go list their tickets on StubHub for face value.

PB11041

Lerxst1992 said:

halshakarchi said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Redditor posted today they called TM - NY & CO will not be participating in the face value exchange.

Thanks PJ for the perfect storm of decisions bringing us the most expensive concert tickets ever!

Blame the laws in those states not pearl jam

PJ knows the laws
PJ sets the dates
PJ decided to do an extremely light N.east run after 4 years of no arena shows
PJ could have picked Newark 
PJ decided not to bundle fall dates w/ spring for NYC to lower odds
PJ wanted to bask in the bright lights of Broadway when Gigaton is released.

Other than that, I'm in full agreement. $20,000 tickets and no face value exchange are NYS fault.

It is not that simple.  The venues all have to get in line with what PJ wants to do not only date wise but how they handle the fanclub tickets.  Ticketmaster doesn't own the venues, just the contract to distribute tickets for events in the venues.  If a venue says NAH you can't have that many seats or some other variety of things, they are not getting a PJ show.    This has been going on for awhile now where venues have been axed because they can't comply with contract bid the promoter puts out on behalf of the band.

So, could they have picked alt venues in the greater NYC area, sure, but there is no evidence that they didn't want to but dates and assorted other things may not have lined up.

And it is also entirely possible that Ticketmaster asked given all the concessions that were made to try and make this tour work that they also have MSG and Denver in the mix to see how the whole process shakes out.  

Saltzy23

There is a "cheap" (and by "cheap" I mean the best price I have seen since Friday) pair for MSG on Stubhb right now for anyone looking.

$405 before fees.

Edit....aaaaaand sold in 2 minutes.

bootlegger10

Just face it, Pearl Jam hates you.   Everything they do is to annoy you.