2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.

    6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve. 

    Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.

     May be an image of text that says ARENA Climate Pledge Arena ClimateArena Replying to ClimateArena This is our first show announcement but will not be our first show Climate Pledge Arena is still on on track to open Fall 2021
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    I don’t see europe happening this summer but I am really starting to have faith in some sort of fall tour.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    PJNB said:
    This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.

    6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve. 

    Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.

     May be an image of text that says ARENA Climate Pledge Arena ClimateArena Replying to ClimateArena This is our first show announcement but will not be our first show Climate Pledge Arena is still on on track to open Fall 2021
    There are rumblings that a local band will be the first to play Climate Pledge Arena.... I can think of one that might fit the bill.

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2021
    JB16057 said:
    PJNB said:
    This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.

    6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve. 

    Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.

     May be an image of text that says ARENA Climate Pledge Arena ClimateArena Replying to ClimateArena This is our first show announcement but will not be our first show Climate Pledge Arena is still on on track to open Fall 2021
    There are rumblings that a local band will be the first to play Climate Pledge Arena.... I can think of one that might fit the bill.

    I have been saying it for the last couple of years on this very forum! Ever since the group that Pearl Jam was backing won the bid to refurbish the arena I thought that they would open the place with 4 shows. Most probably remember that a Pearl Jam residency of some form was part of the bid.  Hope they can pull it off this year.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied. 
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  • No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied. 
    Dude, if you’re going to be negative, at least don’t use the name of one of the Gigaton songs in your note.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied. 
    If we keep chasing every single strain, we will be in lockdown for another 10 years.  The hospital numbers at least where I am in Massachusetts are dropping rapidly.  

    People are going to get sick and die of covid for the rest of our lives, no matter what we do.  

    If the vaccine can protect against 95+% of symptoms and close to 100% of severe cases, that’s as good as it is ever going to get and it will be time to move on.
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  • Hangout delayed until at least the fall. Usually scheduled in may 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,956
    No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied. 

    The vaccines will never fully eliminate Covid... anymore than flu shots eradicate the flu.  The goal for vaccines is to drastically limit the spread and to drastically reduce the severity of the symptoms if someone does get sick. 

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  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,481
    No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied. 
    If we keep chasing every single strain, we will be in lockdown for another 10 years.  The hospital numbers at least where I am in Massachusetts are dropping rapidly.  

    People are going to get sick and die of covid for the rest of our lives, no matter what we do.  

    If the vaccine can protect against 95+% of symptoms and close to 100% of severe cases, that’s as good as it is ever going to get and it will be time to move on.
    Exactly. Just needs to get to a situation where hospitals don’t get overwhelmed, the vaccines reduce the number of cases / severity, and the number of people dying from it every year is more acceptable. Society can’t be in lockdown forever
  • Sting just announced his Las Vegas residency starting again in the fall. Not sure of capacity though. I imagine it is smaller though 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    edited February 2021
    Some shows will happen this year.  Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021


    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it. 
    If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticket
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    2023: St. Paul II
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  • The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it. 
    If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticket
    No kidding.  That would be awesome.  
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Some shows will happen this year.  Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021


    I fully respect that write up. No one knows what this year will bring but them saying reduce capacity early in the season has me a bit excited for what they expect later on. This is a small venue however and outdoors as well. That has to play a role in all of this for sure opening back up. Those two festivals Pearl Jam has booked already has tickets sold however and they can not dial back the attendance now. 
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it. 
    If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticket
    Yeah, I don’t know how I would feel about that. I mean, I would feel happy for the artists and the people who wanted to go, but I don’t know whether I’d be into it or not. In the abstract the idea of a 25-50% capacity show sounds pretty unenticing to me, but at this point I’m not sure if I’d be able to resist any opportunity to see live music again. 
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,323
    I haven’t bought the tickets yet, but I might just to have them in hand. I am getting my second dose of the Moderna vaccine tomorrow and my wife is getting her second dose at the end of this month, so that is not a concern. We will just have to see how things play out as we get to Summer. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    edited February 2021
    tdawe said:
    The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it. 
    If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticket
    Yeah, I don’t know how I would feel about that. I mean, I would feel happy for the artists and the people who wanted to go, but I don’t know whether I’d be into it or not. In the abstract the idea of a 25-50% capacity show sounds pretty unenticing to me, but at this point I’m not sure if I’d be able to resist any opportunity to see live music again. 
    Some of the crowds at the reduced capacity NFL games this year have still been pretty loud.

    I think the Super Bowl this weekend is going to be a massive litmus test.  This has to be the first event since this started where 25,000+ are together, no?

    If a few weeks pass and we dont hear anything negative tracing back to the super bowl, I think the flood gates will start to open and events will begin to resume
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  • PJNB said:
    Some shows will happen this year.  Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021


    I fully respect that write up. No one knows what this year will bring but them saying reduce capacity early in the season has me a bit excited for what they expect later on. This is a small venue however and outdoors as well. That has to play a role in all of this for sure opening back up. Those two festivals Pearl Jam has booked already has tickets sold however and they can not dial back the attendance now. 
    Small venue with benches instead of actual seats. Not sure how this is going to play out.