2020 Fall North American rumour thread
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This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.
6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve.
Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.
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I don’t see europe happening this summer but I am really starting to have faith in some sort of fall tour.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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There are rumblings that a local band will be the first to play Climate Pledge Arena.... I can think of one that might fit the bill.PJNB said:This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.
6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve.
Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.

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I have been saying it for the last couple of years on this very forum! Ever since the group that Pearl Jam was backing won the bid to refurbish the arena I thought that they would open the place with 4 shows. Most probably remember that a Pearl Jam residency of some form was part of the bid. Hope they can pull it off this year.JB16057 said:
There are rumblings that a local band will be the first to play Climate Pledge Arena.... I can think of one that might fit the bill.PJNB said:This is why I think we should be able to have shows in the fall. I am not saying we are going to but my feeling is we should be able to.
6 million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated already and 27 million have gotten the first dose. 1.7 Million people got the vaccination today. Cut that number today in half since you need two doses. 850,000 and multiply that by 200 days. Going by these numbers half of the the US population will be fully vaccinated by the middle of August. That imo is the worse case scenario and that daily number is only going to climb hopefully. J&J just came out today for emergency use authorization and their vaccine is a single dose and storage requirements are very easy to achieve.
Going to be interesting to see how this plays out too. The Weeknd was the first to announce a show at the refurbed arena.
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No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied.
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Dude, if you’re going to be negative, at least don’t use the name of one of the Gigaton songs in your note.2-feign-reluctance said:No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
If we keep chasing every single strain, we will be in lockdown for another 10 years. The hospital numbers at least where I am in Massachusetts are dropping rapidly.2-feign-reluctance said:No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied.People are going to get sick and die of covid for the rest of our lives, no matter what we do.If the vaccine can protect against 95+% of symptoms and close to 100% of severe cases, that’s as good as it is ever going to get and it will be time to move on.2010: Cleveland
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
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Hangout delayed until at least the fall. Usually scheduled in may0
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2-feign-reluctance said:No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied.
The vaccines will never fully eliminate Covid... anymore than flu shots eradicate the flu. The goal for vaccines is to drastically limit the spread and to drastically reduce the severity of the symptoms if someone does get sick.
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Exactly. Just needs to get to a situation where hospitals don’t get overwhelmed, the vaccines reduce the number of cases / severity, and the number of people dying from it every year is more acceptable. Society can’t be in lockdown foreverWeston1283 said:
If we keep chasing every single strain, we will be in lockdown for another 10 years. The hospital numbers at least where I am in Massachusetts are dropping rapidly.2-feign-reluctance said:No evidence of vaccines work past 90 days reported yet. New deadly strains. Buckle up. Gonna be another year or more I say. Hopefully we’ll know more in 3-5 months after this first wave or the folks that got the shots months ago are studied.People are going to get sick and die of covid for the rest of our lives, no matter what we do.If the vaccine can protect against 95+% of symptoms and close to 100% of severe cases, that’s as good as it is ever going to get and it will be time to move on.0 -
Sting just announced his Las Vegas residency starting again in the fall. Not sure of capacity though. I imagine it is smaller though0
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Some shows will happen this year. Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021

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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore0 -
The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it.0
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If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticketJeBurkhardt said:The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it.2010: Cleveland
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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore0 -
No kidding. That would be awesome.Weston1283 said:
If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticketJeBurkhardt said:The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
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I fully respect that write up. No one knows what this year will bring but them saying reduce capacity early in the season has me a bit excited for what they expect later on. This is a small venue however and outdoors as well. That has to play a role in all of this for sure opening back up. Those two festivals Pearl Jam has booked already has tickets sold however and they can not dial back the attendance now.Weston1283 said:Some shows will happen this year. Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021
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Yeah, I don’t know how I would feel about that. I mean, I would feel happy for the artists and the people who wanted to go, but I don’t know whether I’d be into it or not. In the abstract the idea of a 25-50% capacity show sounds pretty unenticing to me, but at this point I’m not sure if I’d be able to resist any opportunity to see live music again.Weston1283 said:
If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticketJeBurkhardt said:The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it.Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240 -
I haven’t bought the tickets yet, but I might just to have them in hand. I am getting my second dose of the Moderna vaccine tomorrow and my wife is getting her second dose at the end of this month, so that is not a concern. We will just have to see how things play out as we get to Summer.0
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Some of the crowds at the reduced capacity NFL games this year have still been pretty loud.tdawe said:
Yeah, I don’t know how I would feel about that. I mean, I would feel happy for the artists and the people who wanted to go, but I don’t know whether I’d be into it or not. In the abstract the idea of a 25-50% capacity show sounds pretty unenticing to me, but at this point I’m not sure if I’d be able to resist any opportunity to see live music again.Weston1283 said:
If a band I want to see is willing to play this summer outdoors at 25-50% capacity, ill be the first one in line for a ticketJeBurkhardt said:The Black Crowes have scheduled new dates in the Summer for outside amphitheaters. They are playing in St Louis I’m July. I am contemplating picking up a couple of tickets for it.
I think the Super Bowl this weekend is going to be a massive litmus test. This has to be the first event since this started where 25,000+ are together, no?
If a few weeks pass and we dont hear anything negative tracing back to the super bowl, I think the flood gates will start to open and events will begin to resume2010: Cleveland
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
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2023: St. Paul II
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Small venue with benches instead of actual seats. Not sure how this is going to play out.PJNB said:
I fully respect that write up. No one knows what this year will bring but them saying reduce capacity early in the season has me a bit excited for what they expect later on. This is a small venue however and outdoors as well. That has to play a role in all of this for sure opening back up. Those two festivals Pearl Jam has booked already has tickets sold however and they can not dial back the attendance now.Weston1283 said:Some shows will happen this year. Not Pearl Jam, but concerts in one way or another are coming back in 2021
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