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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    on2legs said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    RiddledWithMetaphors said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Trying to say show in your state is not really in your state is a stretch.  Does anyone in Pittsburgh think that a Philly show is really a New Jersey show?
    Sorry, I guess this is the quote I was commenting on to provide more context. Just speaking from the perspective of a person that lives a mile from another state that has another venue that PJ frequent... The venue may be in Jersey, but it's mostly a Philly crowd for sure. 
    I get that someone who lives in Camden, NJ feels that a Camden show is really a Philly show and not a New Jersey show.   Regardless, Camden is in New Jersey and thus it is a New Jersey show, and essentially a PA show too based on proximity to Philly. 
    I agree with you... but as a Jersey resident, if Philly wants to claim Camden as its own then they can have it.   :smiley:
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    In 2010, they announced two shows in NYC and one was TBA. The TBA show became available to 10C members who missed out on the NYC shows.

    So yeah, there are those "geographic" exceptions/rules whatever you want to call them.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,853
    bootlegger10 said:
    RiddledWithMetaphors said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Trying to say show in your state is not really in your state is a stretch.  Does anyone in Pittsburgh think that a Philly show is really a New Jersey show?
    Sorry, I guess this is the quote I was commenting on to provide more context. Just speaking from the perspective of a person that lives a mile from another state that has another venue that PJ frequent... The venue may be in Jersey, but it's mostly a Philly crowd for sure. 
    I get that someone who lives in Camden, NJ feels that a Camden show is really a Philly show and not a New Jersey show.   Regardless, Camden is in New Jersey and thus it is a New Jersey show, and essentially a PA show too based on proximity to Philly. 


    How about Long Island fans? Not counting the outer city boroughs our population here is double Philly.

      Including the outer boroughs (physically connected) we have about 5 times the population of averaged sized cities like Philly.

    And for us getting across any river is a quandary requiring sedatives.

    And we will probably never get another show again after the Nassau Fiasco.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    Lerxst1992 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    RiddledWithMetaphors said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Trying to say show in your state is not really in your state is a stretch.  Does anyone in Pittsburgh think that a Philly show is really a New Jersey show?
    Sorry, I guess this is the quote I was commenting on to provide more context. Just speaking from the perspective of a person that lives a mile from another state that has another venue that PJ frequent... The venue may be in Jersey, but it's mostly a Philly crowd for sure. 
    I get that someone who lives in Camden, NJ feels that a Camden show is really a Philly show and not a New Jersey show.   Regardless, Camden is in New Jersey and thus it is a New Jersey show, and essentially a PA show too based on proximity to Philly. 


    How about Long Island fans? Not counting the outer city boroughs our population here is double Philly.

      Including the outer boroughs (physically connected) we have about 5 times the population of averaged sized cities like Philly.

    And for us getting across any river is a quandary requiring sedatives.

    And we will probably never get another show again after the Nassau Fiasco.
    That Nassau show was amazing. I've been to around a thousand concerts and haven't been anywhere near that uncomfortable before or since. They need to come back and exorcise the demons.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!
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  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    RiddledWithMetaphors said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Trying to say show in your state is not really in your state is a stretch.  Does anyone in Pittsburgh think that a Philly show is really a New Jersey show?
    Sorry, I guess this is the quote I was commenting on to provide more context. Just speaking from the perspective of a person that lives a mile from another state that has another venue that PJ frequent... The venue may be in Jersey, but it's mostly a Philly crowd for sure. 
    I get that someone who lives in Camden, NJ feels that a Camden show is really a Philly show and not a New Jersey show.   Regardless, Camden is in New Jersey and thus it is a New Jersey show, and essentially a PA show too based on proximity to Philly. 


    How about Long Island fans? Not counting the outer city boroughs our population here is double Philly.

      Including the outer boroughs (physically connected) we have about 5 times the population of averaged sized cities like Philly.

    And for us getting across any river is a quandary requiring sedatives.

    And we will probably never get another show again after the Nassau Fiasco.
    That Nassau show was amazing. I've been to around a thousand concerts and haven't been anywhere near that uncomfortable before or since. They need to come back and exorcise the demons.
    Same.I think thats what it feels like just before a riot.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,853
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    RiddledWithMetaphors said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Trying to say show in your state is not really in your state is a stretch.  Does anyone in Pittsburgh think that a Philly show is really a New Jersey show?
    Sorry, I guess this is the quote I was commenting on to provide more context. Just speaking from the perspective of a person that lives a mile from another state that has another venue that PJ frequent... The venue may be in Jersey, but it's mostly a Philly crowd for sure. 
    I get that someone who lives in Camden, NJ feels that a Camden show is really a Philly show and not a New Jersey show.   Regardless, Camden is in New Jersey and thus it is a New Jersey show, and essentially a PA show too based on proximity to Philly. 


    How about Long Island fans? Not counting the outer city boroughs our population here is double Philly.

      Including the outer boroughs (physically connected) we have about 5 times the population of averaged sized cities like Philly.

    And for us getting across any river is a quandary requiring sedatives.

    And we will probably never get another show again after the Nassau Fiasco.
    That Nassau show was amazing. I've been to around a thousand concerts and haven't been anywhere near that uncomfortable before or since. They need to come back and exorcise the demons.
    It was definitely spicy that night. 
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?
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  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I'd love something in MN again. Last was 2014, before that was 2003, as 2006 opening for Petty doesn't count. Before that was 1998. I suppose they figure we'll all just travel to Wrigley, which I have been, but not anymore. I've come to peace that if my last show was at Wrigley last year in the rain, then that was a pretty F'N epic night, even with a 5 am flight the next day. One hell of a way to go out.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    edited November 2019
    The U.S. is feast or famine.  The northeast feasts.  Chicago feasts. Seattle feasts.   The rest are content with one show every 7 years at best. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,853
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?

    Was that NY?

    IIRC NY had PJ shows in 2010, 2013 and 2016. Plus central park in 2015 they did about 12 songs? Do not recall anything in 2012 or 2014.

    Based on population , NY is an under served market. But they all are in NA except Chi & Bos.

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?

    Was that NY?

    IIRC NY had PJ shows in 2010, 2013 and 2016. Plus central park in 2015 they did about 12 songs? Do not recall anything in 2012 or 2014.

    Based on population , NY is an under served market. But they all are in NA except Chi & Bos.


    And Philly. 
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    At least I can count on Mötley Crüe to tour next year in the US.
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?

    Was that NY?

    IIRC NY had PJ shows in 2010, 2013 and 2016. Plus central park in 2015 they did about 12 songs? Do not recall anything in 2012 or 2014.

    Based on population , NY is an under served market. But they all are in NA except Chi & Bos.


    Four USA shows (festivals) in 2012.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    C’mon folks let’s keep up with European thread they get over 100 new posts a day lol 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    josevolution said:
    C’mon folks let’s keep up with European thread they get over 100 new posts a day lol 
    Zero rumors. Unfortunately   Not much to talk about.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited November 2019
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?
    They were not here in 2008. That was the year of the  "Return of WMA and Who You Are" NA tour.

    E U R O P E
    2000 Sweden
    2001
    2002
    2003
    2004
    2005
    2006
    2007
    2008
    2009
    2010
    2011
    2012 (Pearl Jam and Eddie) Sweden
    2013
    2014 Sweden
    2015
    2016 
    2017 (Eddie)
    2018 
    2019 (Eddie) 
    2020 Sweden
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,768
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?
    They were not here in 2008. That was the year of the  "Return of WMA and Who You Are" NA tour.

    E U R O P E
    2000 Sweden
    2001
    2002
    2003
    2004
    2005
    2006
    2007
    2008
    2009
    2010
    2011
    2012 (Pearl Jam and Eddie) Sweden
    2013
    2014 Sweden
    2015
    2016 (Eddie)
    2017
    2018 
    2019 (Eddie) 
    2020 Sweden
    I think Eddie was 17 not 16.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    kst said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    We've taken to arguing geography and demographics. 

    Rock n' roll, dude!

    Sorry man I dont intend on arguing. We all love this band but we all know they don't like to tour that much. And haven't exactly covered the map over the last decade in the US 


    I'm really happy for our Euro fans for their embarrassment of riches compared to us getting full and solo tours. But were all just hoping against hope we get to see them again near our hometowns. And zero NA rumors is stunning right now.

    On LI (origin of the "jam in PJ!") I realize that's very unlikely and most likely we will be very lucky to land a 4% draw to an MSG show. So be it. Time for a home equity loan.

    2010 (almost a decade ago) and 2013/2014. Add 2016 plus the 3-4 festivals in...2012.

    But yeah, it's been either EV or PJ every year in Europe since...2009? 2008?
    They were not here in 2008. That was the year of the  "Return of WMA and Who You Are" NA tour.

    E U R O P E
    2000 Sweden
    2001
    2002
    2003
    2004
    2005
    2006
    2007
    2008
    2009
    2010
    2011
    2012 (Pearl Jam and Eddie) Sweden
    2013
    2014 Sweden
    2015
    2016 (Eddie)
    2017
    2018 
    2019 (Eddie) 
    2020 Sweden
    I think Eddie was 17 not 16.
    True. 2017 Eddie in Berlin. 2016 Neil Young in Berlin.
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