2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

SandyRavage

I don't want to put the idea in peoples heads that this is going to be an exact repeat of 2016, even though its been 4 years (holy shit) since then, but do we think they might play some shows in the US before Europe next year? I think thats how it was done in 2016, and before the announcements, the European rumors were stronger than the US rumors probably because its harder to get holds and prepare for Europe. 

The reason I say this is because Jazzfest in New Orleans lineup usually comes out at the end of December or early to late January at the latest. PJ played in 2016, and before that in 2010. I have a feeling they did so good in 2016, the talent buyer that booked them knows they are going to tour and would do anything to have PJ back at the fest. Jazzfest is usually held over 2 weekends, the last weekend of April, and the first weekend of May. There are manyyyy spring festivals around this time, not to mention Innings, as well as others Ed or the band have been apart of before. This is all pure speculation, but could we see mini US/Festival run in spring 2020, with a full European tour and a massive election based tour in the US/Canada in the fall??

Just thought i'd add some speculation instead of "PLAY MY CITY PLEASE " 

Original_Shifty

Unfortunately, the man in the know says No.

Lerxst1992

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

bootlegger10

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

I was just saying that there hasn't been anything solid claimed for the USA for 2020.  At least that I have read. 

Noload

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

pearljammr78

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

rummy

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

I think I'm in full agreement/understanding about what you are saying. I love PJ and rock music but it's no longer 1994 (or 2004) and that ship has probably sailed - for both the band and many (not all) fans.

Lost In Ohio

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Two shows at Alpine Valley and two at Wrigley would do great things for ticket availability, especially if they limited tickets like "max one show per venue."

RatherStarved

rummy said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

I think I'm in full agreement/understanding about what you are saying. I love PJ and rock music but it's no longer 1994 (or 2004) and that ship has probably sailed - for both the band and many (not all) fans.

Just to take the other side for the sake of argument, there might be a small percentage of people who are influenced either to vote at all or to vote a certain way based on what they hear at a concert.  It’s probably not many people given what the OP has stated, but in places where the vote is really close, a few hundred people here and there could make a difference.  Ed’s passion about certain issues is impactful to an extent. And even if it doesn’t actually have an impact, the band may take the approach that it’s worth a shot, particularly if they are inclined to do a few shows anyway.

pjl44

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

The issue is that they misunderstand the problem nowadays. It's not the 60s where people believed in their institutions and needed to take a skeptical look. For a variety of reasons, people are super aware but they're also super entrenched.

Getting the hyper politicized to calm down and figure out how to work together is the challenge now. Unfortunately, a lot of artists find themselves in that very bucket so they're more apt to make things worse. Screaming about a guy that 60-70% of the country disapproves of is not radical action. 

pjl44

Alternate answer: The only way a tour like that will "work" is if you use it as a fundraiser. X amount of ticket sales/merch. Maybe you have orgs taking donations or registering voters. But you better have an interesting approach if you think you're changing anyone's mind at a concert in 2019.

bbiggs

Just play music please. Problem solved. 

Lerxst1992

kst said:

rummy said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

I think I'm in full agreement/understanding about what you are saying. I love PJ and rock music but it's no longer 1994 (or 2004) and that ship has probably sailed - for both the band and many (not all) fans.

Just to take the other side for the sake of argument, there might be a small percentage of people who are influenced either to vote at all or to vote a certain way based on what they hear at a concert.  It’s probably not many people given what the OP has stated, but in places where the vote is really close, a few hundred people here and there could make a difference.  Ed’s passion about certain issues is impactful to an extent. And even if it doesn’t actually have an impact, the band may take the approach that it’s worth a shot, particularly if they are inclined to do a few shows anyway.

Promise a show to any state that went red last time that flips in a change election. Limit it it 6 states. They can easily work shows into OH PA FL MI WI. Have the states with the longest "PJ drought" be the tiebreaker.

Throw it at the wall and hope it works. Might as well offer something you have that is enormously coveted that will generate attention. One could contend that they'd probably play alot of these states anyway in their  PJ30 year but promising the possibility in advance will generate buzz.

But I agree due to over saturation of media and our tribal mentality the standard electioneering has much less impact currently 

JimmyV

A rock band might influence someone to vote who otherwise wouldn't, but beyond that I don't think they would have much of an impact. 

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

kst said:

rummy said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

I think I'm in full agreement/understanding about what you are saying. I love PJ and rock music but it's no longer 1994 (or 2004) and that ship has probably sailed - for both the band and many (not all) fans.

Just to take the other side for the sake of argument, there might be a small percentage of people who are influenced either to vote at all or to vote a certain way based on what they hear at a concert.  It’s probably not many people given what the OP has stated, but in places where the vote is really close, a few hundred people here and there could make a difference.  Ed’s passion about certain issues is impactful to an extent. And even if it doesn’t actually have an impact, the band may take the approach that it’s worth a shot, particularly if they are inclined to do a few shows anyway.

Promise a show to any state that went red last time that flips in a change election. Limit it it 6 states. They can easily work shows into OH PA FL MI WI. Have the states with the longest "PJ drought" be the tiebreaker.

Throw it at the wall and hope it works. Might as well offer something you have that is enormously coveted that will generate attention. One could contend that they'd probably play alot of these states anyway in their  PJ30 year but promising the possibility in advance will generate buzz.

But I agree due to over saturation of media and our tribal mentality the standard electioneering has much less impact currently 

I think we need to come to terms with the fact that the overwhelming majority of people don't care whether or not Pearl Jam plays a show near them

PB11041

ah. ugh. oye. eh. 

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

The issue is that they misunderstand the problem nowadays. It's not the 60s where people believed in their institutions and needed to take a skeptical look. For a variety of reasons, people are super aware but they're also super entrenched.

Getting the hyper politicized to calm down and figure out how to work together is the challenge now. Unfortunately, a lot of artists find themselves in that very bucket so they're more apt to make things worse. Screaming about a guy that 60-70% of the country disapproves of is not radical action. 

We are very hyper partisan now.  But the battle is for the unaffiliated 20% in the middle

Nami

pretty please hit up Atlantic Canada!

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

kst said:

rummy said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

I think I'm in full agreement/understanding about what you are saying. I love PJ and rock music but it's no longer 1994 (or 2004) and that ship has probably sailed - for both the band and many (not all) fans.

Just to take the other side for the sake of argument, there might be a small percentage of people who are influenced either to vote at all or to vote a certain way based on what they hear at a concert.  It’s probably not many people given what the OP has stated, but in places where the vote is really close, a few hundred people here and there could make a difference.  Ed’s passion about certain issues is impactful to an extent. And even if it doesn’t actually have an impact, the band may take the approach that it’s worth a shot, particularly if they are inclined to do a few shows anyway.

Promise a show to any state that went red last time that flips in a change election. Limit it it 6 states. They can easily work shows into OH PA FL MI WI. Have the states with the longest "PJ drought" be the tiebreaker.

Throw it at the wall and hope it works. Might as well offer something you have that is enormously coveted that will generate attention. One could contend that they'd probably play alot of these states anyway in their  PJ30 year but promising the possibility in advance will generate buzz.

But I agree due to over saturation of media and our tribal mentality the standard electioneering has much less impact currently 

I think we need to come to terms with the fact that the overwhelming majority of people don't care whether or not Pearl Jam plays a show near them

The 2 PJ shows at Wrigley 2018 exceeded the number of votes needed to defeat trump.

2 shows.

If you dont try you dont succeed. 

Will you agree to those terms?

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

pearljammr78 said:

Noload said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

tracypawlak said:

I may have missed it, but has anyone brought up Alpine Valley as a possibility? It’s back open. I also believe Mike has said it’s on his list of favorite venues to play.

There are no credible rumors for US shows in 2020.  I think we all would be shocked if they don't playin 2020 in the US but so far no cities have been rumored.    They'll never play Alpine Valley again as long as they can play Wrigley (that is my own two cents). 

Wasn't the rumor for the USA tour in the fall to coincide with the reelection?

Euro has all the rumors  now bc their tour is to start in about 6 months and the festivals are about to announce headliners?

Yeah, my guess is they go out in the Fall for the reelection.  Hit some swing states.  

This is an honest question that the response above made me think of. 

Does anyone still believe a rock band can still go out and start a movement for political change in the United States? 

It seems to me that with the over saturation of news and/or propaganda that is spread through TV, social media, and other outlets, a band like Pearl Jam is preaching to the choir. Not saying their whole base is one way or another but saying most people have their minds made up and no amount of shows are going to change that. But I’m a huge pessimist and don’t live in a swing state so I just want a tour with shows I can drive to. 

The issue is that they misunderstand the problem nowadays. It's not the 60s where people believed in their institutions and needed to take a skeptical look. For a variety of reasons, people are super aware but they're also super entrenched.

Getting the hyper politicized to calm down and figure out how to work together is the challenge now. Unfortunately, a lot of artists find themselves in that very bucket so they're more apt to make things worse. Screaming about a guy that 60-70% of the country disapproves of is not radical action. 

We are very hyper partisan now.  But the battle is for the unaffiliated 20% in the middle

Who are completely put off by the shrieking partisans and are unlikely to be swayed by Vote For Change 2.0