I am amazed scrolling through this thread how many people didn’t even bother to read the email and keep asking the same questions.....of which answers are in the email sent yesterday morning. Reading is hard I guess.
It’s really incredible. It took me 10 minutes to read it all and understand everything.
So you knew for sure that GA would be picked first if best available was selected and both GA and reserved tickets were still available?
Yes, it’s common sense. GA is always considered best on TM.
Never hurts to confirm. But that was a question where the answer was not in the instructions.
I am amazed scrolling through this thread how many people didn’t even bother to read the email and keep asking the same questions.....of which answers are in the email sent yesterday morning. Reading is hard I guess.
It’s really incredible. It took me 10 minutes to read it all and understand everything.
So you knew for sure that GA would be picked first if best available was selected and both GA and reserved tickets were still available?
Yes, it’s common sense. GA is always considered best on TM.
Its been confirmed in another thread that GA is considered the best.
It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off. My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money. Shady I know but I would not put it past them. How would the 10C know?
The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.
Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices. Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.
My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees. Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.
I just don't trust Ticketmaster, they can say they ran the algo. Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market. I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members. PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them. I put in for my shows and will hope I get them, but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.
There's definitely a concern that 10club may have just put the fox in charge of the hen house. But hopefully they got assurances TM would do everything on the up and up.
I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
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I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off. My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money. Shady I know but I would not put it past them. How would the 10C know?
The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.
Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices. Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.
My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees. Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.
I just don't trust Ticketmaster, they can say they ran the algo. Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market. I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members. PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them. I put in for my shows and will hope I get them, but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.
There's definitely a concern that 10club may have just put the fox in charge of the hen house. But hopefully they got assurances TM would do everything on the up and up.
In addition to their overwhelming popularity, Limiting supply to the public drives up resale prices.
Not playing NA arena shows in 4 years drives up prices
Playing shows disproportionate to where the fans are drives up prices. Balt and NY will see the brunt of that this time.
Not having a moderately priced option such as platinum drives up prices
I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
I really considered making the trip as well, but ultimately didn't want to stress about the weather so I'm not going to put in for those tickets. That being said... I wish all of you making the trip to have bright sunshine and warm weather that week
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I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
I really considered making the trip as well, but ultimately didn't want to stress about the weather so I'm not going to put in for those tickets. That being said... I wish all of you making the trip to have bright sunshine and warm weather that week
Thanks! Fingers crossed. I’m not too worried about it, given that I live with some pretty shitty winters myself. Just going to make sure we give ourselves plenty of transit time.
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I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
I really considered making the trip as well, but ultimately didn't want to stress about the weather so I'm not going to put in for those tickets. That being said... I wish all of you making the trip to have bright sunshine and warm weather that week
Thanks! Fingers crossed. I’m not too worried about it, given that I live with some pretty shitty winters myself. Just going to make sure we give ourselves plenty of transit time.
drive 9 hours or pay close to $1000 usd for a two hour flight (that's for two tickets)...hmmmmmm.
I just want to confirm the odds that I’m seeing for the Canadian shows.. as of this morning only Hamilton and TO dipped below. 99 .Everything else is at 99 still? Lottery is closing tomorrow.. how is this possible?
Lots of seats.
Lots of seats, and many are afraid to travel in the terrible, terrible Canadian winter.
I m gonnacdrive from New Jersey to Quebec City for the show. You think I am good? @Falling Down
If you leave on the 21st (Saturday), you'll be good. Just need to give yourself some time to pause and rest (or sleep) if weather is bad. But remember, winter tires are mandatory on the Quebec roads in winter!
Interesting. I’ll be making the drive as well. I just did a quick search, and found that only cars with plates registered in Quebec are required by law to have snow tires. I’m not saying they may not be necessary or helpful, but I don’t think we need to run and shell out a few hundred dollars for snow tires just for a weekend trip, FWIW. @mcgruff10
I really considered making the trip as well, but ultimately didn't want to stress about the weather so I'm not going to put in for those tickets. That being said... I wish all of you making the trip to have bright sunshine and warm weather that week
Thanks! Fingers crossed. I’m not too worried about it, given that I live with some pretty shitty winters myself. Just going to make sure we give ourselves plenty of transit time.
drive 9 hours or pay close to $1000 usd for a two hour flight (that's for two tickets)...hmmmmmm.
Quite the dilemma. Depends what you value more. We’re also doing Ottawa, which is about a 6 hour drive from home, so for us it just makes more sense (financially, mostly) to drive.
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too bad you aren't tough enough to handle the north american crowds. would have been nice to finally meet up.
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It looks like the band wants to make sure all the Faithful get in and the scalpers can go kiss off. My only fear is that TM starts skimming these seats to hand off to the scalpers so they can make more money. Shady I know but I would not put it past them. How would the 10C know?
The yin to the yang of having so many seats sold to the 10C and Verified TM lotto who are people not likely to sell their tickets is that the supply of "sellable" seats on the secondary market is gonna be extremely low.
Low supply + high demand is going to equate to crazy high prices. Certainly for the MSG and Baltimore shows.
My guess is that the worst seats at MSG settle at like $200-$250 before fees. Curious to see how close I am once all the tickets have been sold.
I just don't trust Ticketmaster, they can say they ran the algo. Gave out the tickets to the 10c people and really kept some for themselves to be sold on the secondary market. I hope 10c can audit them after the fact and make sure they went to actual 10c members. PJ is always one of the biggest tours so TM knows that and I dont trust them. I put in for my shows and will hope I get them, but the skeptic in me is not so sure that TM will be on the up and up.
There's definitely a concern that 10club may have just put the fox in charge of the hen house. But hopefully they got assurances TM would do everything on the up and up.
In addition to their overwhelming popularity, Limiting supply to the public drives up resale prices.
Not playing NA arena shows in 4 years drives up prices
Playing shows disproportionate to where the fans are drives up prices. Balt and NY will see the brunt of that this time.
Not having a moderately priced option such as platinum drives up prices
Keep in mind TM is going to sell out nosebleeds in some venues at $100/each with this plan. They might not get platinum $$$ for the seats up front, but it comes at the cost of high prices in upper levels. And more people not knowing what they will get in advance means less likelihood of some venues having an empty upper level.
Please United Center, please no Lolla, I'd be cool with Wrigley just no Lolla.....my desire to ever attend Lolla again is beyond zilch....would I? Not sure.
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Please United Center, please no Lolla, I'd be cool with Wrigley just no Lolla.....my desire to ever attend Lolla again is beyond zilch....would I? Not sure.
Same here - I'd have little to zero interest in going to Lolla. Pretty sure I wouldn't, even here in Chicago & they were playing.
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
Chicago is 297 miles from St. Louis. Lolla is in Chicago in August. PJ is in St. Louis at the end of March. So if we're going by strict semantics the 300 mile rule and 6 month rule means they can't do Lolla? Right?
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In addition to their overwhelming popularity, Limiting supply to the public drives up resale prices.
Not playing NA arena shows in 4 years drives up prices
Playing shows disproportionate to where the fans are drives up prices. Balt and NY will see the brunt of that this time.
Not having a moderately priced option such as platinum drives up prices
I really considered making the trip as well, but ultimately didn't want to stress about the weather so I'm not going to put in for those tickets. That being said... I wish all of you making the trip to have bright sunshine and warm weather that week
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This should serve as confirmation of fall dates as the 2nd leg, correct?
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you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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