2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

texjayhawk

mcgruff10 said:

Does anybody even go to the NIT?

Looks like UNC is going there this year 

nautical_disaster

djbrothers said:

100 Pacer said:

JFC now a mass shooting in Ottawa.

Not far from my office. Thankfully, I’m out today. Father-in-law works right there too, but sounds like it’s under control now.

scary stuff...

looks like it's no longer an active situation, scary stuff

johnny__utah

Just heard wishlist on a Canadian radio station, the last time I heard it on the radio was a few days before the 2016 tour announcement. Likely just coincidence but one can dream

RF283499

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

I keep saying this. Bands do that weird routing in Ontario and Quebec all the time. Once they get all their gear over the border they ping pong around. Going up and down the 401. These shows are usually 2 days apart. That is plenty of time to load out in Quebec and drive to the Hammer and set up. 
 
Out west, 513 miles between gigs can be the norm. 

100 Pacer

RF283499 said:

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

I keep saying this. Bands do that weird routing in Ontario and Quebec all the time. Once they get all their gear over the border they ping pong around. Going up and down the 401. These shows are usually 2 days apart. That is plenty of time to load out in Quebec and drive to the Hammer and set up. 
 
Out west, 513 miles between gigs can be the norm. 

The trucks dispatched for the tour’s production gear (lights, rig, etc.) pick up the equipment in Toronto so when possible it makes logistical sense to either start or end the tour here. Otherwise it makes sense to bounce around while already here if routing is contingent on dates further down the list.

Jimminez

thoughts?

1) set up stage after hockey game to have a show the next day, or
2) have show day before game and have tear down complete by midday of hockey game?

With 1) having to occur with stage being set up a for a show two days prior the day after a concert?

danalmunro

RF283499 said:

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

I keep saying this. Bands do that weird routing in Ontario and Quebec all the time. Once they get all their gear over the border they ping pong around. Going up and down the 401. These shows are usually 2 days apart. That is plenty of time to load out in Quebec and drive to the Hammer and set up. 
 
Out west, 513 miles between gigs can be the norm. 

2011 they did Montreal -> Toronto -> Ottawa -> Hamilton
2016 was Quebec -> Ottawa -> Toronto
Just for reference that yes they do bounce around in no logical order at times

kennethstrickland713

mcgruff10 said: That's me he tossed the Mic to 🤘

kennethstrickland713 said:

https://youtu.be/4gmVYa1_H_I
MSG night 1 2016

Best first set I ve ever witnessed. 

PJNB

Weston1283 said:

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

True but the arena is booked from the 18-22.  Unless Toronto was the 15th or 16th then it would have to be after the 2 northern shows no?

It is and I get the dates. Just stating that drive is going to be a tough one. Day off between shows though has me thinking of doing a half and half. 

mcgruff10

kennethstrickland713 said:

mcgruff10 said: That's me he tossed the Mic to 🤘

kennethstrickland713 said:

https://youtu.be/4gmVYa1_H_I
MSG night 1 2016

Best first set I ve ever witnessed. 

That is awesome!!!!!!!

The Cisco Kid

Poncier said:

dimitrispearljam said:

on2legs said:

While we wait for the announcement... Does anyone know if Pearl Jam is classic rock?

they are classic pearl jam 

So who's modern Pearl Jam? And who's indie Pearl Jam?

Pearl jam, and Pearl jam
 

kennethstrickland713

mcgruff10 said:

kennethstrickland713 said:

mcgruff10 said: That's me he tossed the Mic to 🤘

kennethstrickland713 said:

https://youtu.be/4gmVYa1_H_I
MSG night 1 2016

Best first set I ve ever witnessed. 

That is awesome!!!!!!!

Thank You it was Crazy 🤘 Lucky my Wife caught the whole thing 🙏

Lerxst1992

RF283499 said:

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

I keep saying this. Bands do that weird routing in Ontario and Quebec all the time. Once they get all their gear over the border they ping pong around. Going up and down the 401. These shows are usually 2 days apart. That is plenty of time to load out in Quebec and drive to the Hammer and set up. 
 
Out west, 513 miles between gigs can be the norm. 

https://youtu.be/zhMcnGJmMUk


We dont f*ck with the 401

rummy

smak said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Ray J. T. said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gotthebottle said:

UseUrIllusions said:

How were the dates compiled? Any confirmation from any of the venues? 

That's like asking "How does Sherlock Holmes solve the case?"

There’s a great way to test the process. Scan the Europe rumor thread the week before the tour announcement came out. See how close that rumor list is the the actual announced tour

The last rumor list put together for the European tour before the official announcement was dead on. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/268658/2020-tour-rumor-thread/p290

 ther latest list here posted ,is not dead on...if someone looks the map will understand why. )

This has to either be Canada, or maybe OKC before Denver.  Or even NYC before Baltimore

There’s a show on the 9th.

RF283499

danalmunro said:

RF283499 said:

PJNB said:

Weston1283 said:

OKC and Denver are the only dates that don’t make logistical sense.  

Baltimore before NYC is very reasonable and so is traveling back down to Hamilton

Hamilton is 513 miles from Quebec City. That drive is going to be hard to do since we start the tour only 40 miles away from Hamilton. 

I keep saying this. Bands do that weird routing in Ontario and Quebec all the time. Once they get all their gear over the border they ping pong around. Going up and down the 401. These shows are usually 2 days apart. That is plenty of time to load out in Quebec and drive to the Hammer and set up. 
 
Out west, 513 miles between gigs can be the norm. 

2011 they did Montreal -> Toronto -> Ottawa -> Hamilton
2016 was Quebec -> Ottawa -> Toronto
Just for reference that yes they do bounce around in no logical order at times

Yep, this is what I am saying. Lots of bands do that. 

ed243421

rummy said:

smak said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Ray J. T. said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gotthebottle said:

UseUrIllusions said:

How were the dates compiled? Any confirmation from any of the venues? 

That's like asking "How does Sherlock Holmes solve the case?"

There’s a great way to test the process. Scan the Europe rumor thread the week before the tour announcement came out. See how close that rumor list is the the actual announced tour

The last rumor list put together for the European tour before the official announcement was dead on. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/268658/2020-tour-rumor-thread/p290

 ther latest list here posted ,is not dead on...if someone looks the map will understand why. )

This has to either be Canada, or maybe OKC before Denver.  Or even NYC before Baltimore

There’s a show on the 9th.

Denver?

bbiggs

Just when we thought we had it all figured out...

opsopcopolis

Jimminez said:

thoughts?

1) set up stage after hockey game to have a show the next day, or
2) have show day before game and have tear down complete by midday of hockey game?

With 1) having to occur with stage being set up a for a show two days prior the day after a concert?

Neither. They set up morning of and tear down immediately following. Arena show don’t need two days

mrk2

Jimminez said:

thoughts?

1) set up stage after hockey game to have a show the next day, or
2) have show day before game and have tear down complete by midday of hockey game?

With 1) having to occur with stage being set up a for a show two days prior the day after a concert?

Normal arena shows are set up on the day of the show. Load out takes about 2-3 hours and is done right after the show ends.

Empty arena in the morning
Gear is loaded in, stage set up.
Soundcheck around 4 PM
Doors at 6 PM
Show over at 11 PM
All Gear packed up and arena empty by 2 AM

Does not matter what happens the day before or after

PJNB

bbiggs said:

Just when we thought we had it all figured out...

Ya something is off here for sure. I think we are good right up until MSG and I think California is right. At some point we need to flip to odd dates for the San Diego show. So if Nashville is the 2nd then the 4 after that need some work. 

Lerxst1992

ed243421 said:

rummy said:

smak said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Ray J. T. said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gotthebottle said:

UseUrIllusions said:

How were the dates compiled? Any confirmation from any of the venues? 

That's like asking "How does Sherlock Holmes solve the case?"

There’s a great way to test the process. Scan the Europe rumor thread the week before the tour announcement came out. See how close that rumor list is the the actual announced tour

The last rumor list put together for the European tour before the official announcement was dead on. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/268658/2020-tour-rumor-thread/p290

 ther latest list here posted ,is not dead on...if someone looks the map will understand why. )

This has to either be Canada, or maybe OKC before Denver.  Or even NYC before Baltimore

There’s a show on the 9th.

Denver?

Midwest- 3 shows in 4 nights

East coast- 2 shows in 8 days plus 1 promotional appearance. 

Jimminez

Good to know.

gotthebottle

mrk2 said:

Jimminez said:

thoughts?

1) set up stage after hockey game to have a show the next day, or
2) have show day before game and have tear down complete by midday of hockey game?

With 1) having to occur with stage being set up a for a show two days prior the day after a concert?

Normal arena shows are set up on the day of the show. Load out takes about 2-3 hours and is done right after the show ends.

Empty arena in the morning
Gear is loaded in, stage set up.
Soundcheck around 4 PM
Doors at 6 PM
Show over at 11 PM
All Gear packed up and arena empty by 2 AM

Does not matter what happens the day before or after

That's why The Forum in LA works as The Eagles will be fine on the 17th at the venue

Weston1283

Denver could still be 4/6... OKC 4/9 and PHX remains 4/11

JimmyV

Lerxst1992 said:

ed243421 said:

rummy said:

smak said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Ray J. T. said:

Lerxst1992 said:

gotthebottle said:

UseUrIllusions said:

How were the dates compiled? Any confirmation from any of the venues? 

That's like asking "How does Sherlock Holmes solve the case?"

There’s a great way to test the process. Scan the Europe rumor thread the week before the tour announcement came out. See how close that rumor list is the the actual announced tour

The last rumor list put together for the European tour before the official announcement was dead on. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/268658/2020-tour-rumor-thread/p290

 ther latest list here posted ,is not dead on...if someone looks the map will understand why. )

This has to either be Canada, or maybe OKC before Denver.  Or even NYC before Baltimore

There’s a show on the 9th.

Denver?

Midwest- 3 shows in 4 nights

East coast- 2 shows in 8 days plus 1 promotional appearance. 

In the spring. 

NewfieintheUSA

Possible St Louis dates are 4-3, 4-4, 4-5 (assuming Nashville is correct on 4-2)

Possible OKC dates are 4-4, 4-5, 4-6, 4-8, 4-9
Possible Denver dates are 4-6, 4-8, 4-9, 4-10

awilkins

The Juggler said:

pjpitt89 said:

New music will absolutely be announced this Friday. It will like include the release of the new single.

Matt Cord?

This is interesting...

setlist41

NewfieintheUSA said:

Possible St Louis dates are 4-3, 4-4, 4-5 (assuming Nashville is correct on 4-2)

Possible OKC dates are 4-4, 4-5, 4-6, 4-8, 4-9
Possible Denver dates are 4-6, 4-8, 4-9, 4-10

Wait.....dates are changing now??

PJNB

New music this Friday? Where is this coming from?

JojoRice

I hope StL is 4/4