The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


  • ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Haha. Perfect.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,499
    edited February 2020
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.
    Hey, Sarah Connor  how hot was @cincybearcat take?

    Sarah Connor: Anybody not wearing two-million sunblock is gonna have a bad day. Get it?





    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814

  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.
    Hey, Sarah Connor  how hot was @cincybearcat take?

    Sarah Connor: Anybody not wearing two-million sunblock is gonna have a bad day. Get it?





    You don;t need to tag me on your dumb posts.  I unfortunately see them anyhow.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,499
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    Some things that quack are not ducks. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,479
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  
    I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly.    I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders".  Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  


    Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?

    Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  
    I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post. 
    Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.  

    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
    Using private jets to get around?

    I don't see how my post was "dumb" or "senseless". 
    And I don't see this sarcasm you speak of in yours. 

    And I used quote marks, or bunnyears if the term suits you better, in a very valid and correct way. I used it to make the describing term I used to make my point, easily and plainly seen in text to get through the sentence easier. 

    Examples of this:

    - Man, Paul "Hotter than a midday sun" Stanley sure was on fire at tonights concert.
    - Turns out the "SEGA or nothing" fans of the 90s are all playing the Nintendo Switch nowadays. 
    - Bernie "winning this thing for sure" Sanders really is the man. And also a mans man.

    Does that mean that @mrussel1 also were wrong in implying I had used it wrong? Yes he was. And then you jumped in. Two wrongs does not make a right though.

    But when asked for a source by mrussel1 I gave him one. Which showed the basis of this condensation, summarized description.

    If you are looking for using quote marks for exact quotes, or maybe even some old university standard for making references with footnotes, than you are not looking at a context in which that is suitable. 

    But just like diverting to a discussion on the proper use of quote marks instead of the heart of the matter - you are also diverting from answering my question: please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim?
    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed using private jets to get around?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  
    I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly.    I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders".  Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  


    Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?

    Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  
    I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post. 
    Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.  

    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
    Using private jets to get around?

    I don't see how my post was "dumb" or "senseless". 
    And I don't see this sarcasm you speak of in yours. 

    And I used quote marks, or bunnyears if the term suits you better, in a very valid and correct way. I used it to make the describing term I used to make my point, easily and plainly seen in text to get through the sentence easier. 

    Examples of this:

    - Man, Paul "Hotter than a midday sun" Stanley sure was on fire at tonights concert.
    - Turns out the "SEGA or nothing" fans of the 90s are all playing the Nintendo Switch nowadays. 
    - Bernie "winning this thing for sure" Sanders really is the man. And also a mans man.

    Does that mean that @mrussel1 also were wrong in implying I had used it wrong? Yes he was. And then you jumped in. Two wrongs does not make a right though.

    But when asked for a source by mrussel1 I gave him one. Which showed the basis of this condensation, summarized description.

    If you are looking for using quote marks for exact quotes, or maybe even some old university standard for making references with footnotes, than you are not looking at a context in which that is suitable. 

    But just like diverting to a discussion on the proper use of quote marks instead of the heart of the matter - you are also diverting from answering my question: please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim?
    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed using private jets to get around?

    "Please provide ex post facto evidence for my claim. Thanks." 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    Some things that quack are not ducks. 
    Thanks for yet another useless post.  You are really catching up to Spiritual.  Good for you
    hippiemom = goodness
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,435
    ecdanc said:

    Buttigieg was up 1.8% at the initial release. It was neck and neck then, it's neck and neck now. Some of these Bernie people need to go for a brisk walk or something. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    pjl44 said:
    ecdanc said:

    Buttigieg was up 1.8% at the initial release. It was neck and neck then, it's neck and neck now. Some of these Bernie people need to go for a brisk walk or something. 
    They are insane complainers about the media and fake news.  Where have I seen this before?

    They never accept the results of an election unless they win...hmmmm.....


    hippiemom = goodness
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,479
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  
    I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly.    I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders".  Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  


    Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?

    Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  
    I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post. 
    Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.  

    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
    Using private jets to get around?

    I don't see how my post was "dumb" or "senseless". 
    And I don't see this sarcasm you speak of in yours. 

    And I used quote marks, or bunnyears if the term suits you better, in a very valid and correct way. I used it to make the describing term I used to make my point, easily and plainly seen in text to get through the sentence easier. 

    Examples of this:

    - Man, Paul "Hotter than a midday sun" Stanley sure was on fire at tonights concert.
    - Turns out the "SEGA or nothing" fans of the 90s are all playing the Nintendo Switch nowadays. 
    - Bernie "winning this thing for sure" Sanders really is the man. And also a mans man.

    Does that mean that @mrussel1 also were wrong in implying I had used it wrong? Yes he was. And then you jumped in. Two wrongs does not make a right though.

    But when asked for a source by mrussel1 I gave him one. Which showed the basis of this condensation, summarized description.

    If you are looking for using quote marks for exact quotes, or maybe even some old university standard for making references with footnotes, than you are not looking at a context in which that is suitable. 

    But just like diverting to a discussion on the proper use of quote marks instead of the heart of the matter - you are also diverting from answering my question: please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim?
    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed using private jets to get around?

    "Please provide ex post facto evidence for my claim. Thanks." 
    Lol. Fine you guys win. I honestly don’t care to look through that thread.  Now please answer the question.  

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,619
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    The only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 


     
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  
    I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly.    I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders".  Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  


    Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?

    Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  
    I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post. 
    Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.  

    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
    Using private jets to get around?

    I don't see how my post was "dumb" or "senseless". 
    And I don't see this sarcasm you speak of in yours. 

    And I used quote marks, or bunnyears if the term suits you better, in a very valid and correct way. I used it to make the describing term I used to make my point, easily and plainly seen in text to get through the sentence easier. 

    Examples of this:

    - Man, Paul "Hotter than a midday sun" Stanley sure was on fire at tonights concert.
    - Turns out the "SEGA or nothing" fans of the 90s are all playing the Nintendo Switch nowadays. 
    - Bernie "winning this thing for sure" Sanders really is the man. And also a mans man.

    Does that mean that @mrussel1 also were wrong in implying I had used it wrong? Yes he was. And then you jumped in. Two wrongs does not make a right though.

    But when asked for a source by mrussel1 I gave him one. Which showed the basis of this condensation, summarized description.

    If you are looking for using quote marks for exact quotes, or maybe even some old university standard for making references with footnotes, than you are not looking at a context in which that is suitable. 

    But just like diverting to a discussion on the proper use of quote marks instead of the heart of the matter - you are also diverting from answering my question: please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim?
    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed using private jets to get around?

    How about answering my question concerning your claim about me first? Which was the basis for your question -- what make it so hard for you? This is the third time you have dodged.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    Tge only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,619
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    Realist =/= opportunist

    But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
    Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.  
    I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly.    I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders".  Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  


    Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?

    Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.  
    I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post. 
    Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.  

    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
    Using private jets to get around?

    I don't see how my post was "dumb" or "senseless". 
    And I don't see this sarcasm you speak of in yours. 

    And I used quote marks, or bunnyears if the term suits you better, in a very valid and correct way. I used it to make the describing term I used to make my point, easily and plainly seen in text to get through the sentence easier. 

    Examples of this:

    - Man, Paul "Hotter than a midday sun" Stanley sure was on fire at tonights concert.
    - Turns out the "SEGA or nothing" fans of the 90s are all playing the Nintendo Switch nowadays. 
    - Bernie "winning this thing for sure" Sanders really is the man. And also a mans man.

    Does that mean that @mrussel1 also were wrong in implying I had used it wrong? Yes he was. And then you jumped in. Two wrongs does not make a right though.

    But when asked for a source by mrussel1 I gave him one. Which showed the basis of this condensation, summarized description.

    If you are looking for using quote marks for exact quotes, or maybe even some old university standard for making references with footnotes, than you are not looking at a context in which that is suitable. 

    But just like diverting to a discussion on the proper use of quote marks instead of the heart of the matter - you are also diverting from answering my question: please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim?
    You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed using private jets to get around?



    Ed who? Oh that bourgeois singer fella. It's ok with me. He drinks fancy red wine anyway. 
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    pjl44 said:
    ecdanc said:

    Buttigieg was up 1.8% at the initial release. It was neck and neck then, it's neck and neck now. Some of these Bernie people need to go for a brisk walk or something. 
    They are insane complainers about the media and fake news.  Where have I seen this before?

    They never accept the results of an election unless they win...hmmmm.....


    Ah, the old centrist chestnut: everyone who disagrees with me is the same!!
  • ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    Tge only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?
    Pete's the closest I guess, minus the "charismatic" part. 
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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    Tge only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?
    Pete's the closest I guess, minus the "charismatic" part. 
    Ah, the guy who polls suggest would lose to Trump. Got it. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,619
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    The only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?

    Pete is really good but about five years too young and 15 years until america is ready for President Pete. We can be a strange country. Good for IA dems for putting him in top 2.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    Tge only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?
    Pete's the closest I guess, minus the "charismatic" part. 
    Ah, the guy who polls suggest would lose to Trump. Got it. 
    I'm just pointing out how young he is compared to the rest. And I think any of them are going to lose to Trump (Biden, who probably won't get out of the primary, is who I think has the only chance in a general). And forget the polls. General-election national polls are pointless even once the nominee is named because of the electoral college system. So they're even more pointless now in these "Candidate A vs. Trump or Candidate B vs. Trump" sort of polling. 
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  • ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    The only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 


     
    Did the insiders want him to ask russia for help and to attack ted cruz wife etc?

    Also, regarding socialism - here is your young candidates take on that:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    The only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 
    Have you seen any?

    Pete is really good but about five years too young and 15 years until america is ready for President Pete. We can be a strange country. Good for IA dems for putting him in top 2.
    America can handle a lily-white centrist, but not a gay lily-white centrist! 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    ecdanc said:
    pjl44 said:
    ecdanc said:

    Buttigieg was up 1.8% at the initial release. It was neck and neck then, it's neck and neck now. Some of these Bernie people need to go for a brisk walk or something. 
    They are insane complainers about the media and fake news.  Where have I seen this before?

    They never accept the results of an election unless they win...hmmmm.....


    Ah, the old centrist chestnut: everyone who disagrees with me is the same!!
    Nope.  Just bernie and trump have a similar method and their supporters also have similar methods. 
    hippiemom = goodness
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