The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,332
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    No kidding.  
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    No kidding.  
    What's the difference between political efficacy and opportunism?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,752
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present




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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present




    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,086
    edited February 2020
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,752
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present






    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)

    seems similar to Bloomberg
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,351
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system


    This is the point I was making the other day,  that the caucus is not how we vote and it favors a class if people,  since you have to have several hours on a Monday night to kill.  But the twit's conclusion is stupid,  that a caucus in Iowa makes the United States a failed state. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    edited February 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present




    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)
    Nope, not surprising at all. He's as fake and opportunistic as they come. If there was road to the presidency through the democratic primary, forget building a wall, he'd be standing at the border handing blue MAGA hats to illegal immigrants. "They're tremendous immigrants that need our help!" 

    Like really, do you think he ever gave a crap about illegal immigration before he decided to run for president? Why would he care? Is he at risk of the "murderers and rapists" that come over up in his Manhattan penthouse? No. Did he hate that his tax money is going to provide illegals with services? No, he didn't pay taxes. Does he like to hire illegals for cheap labor at his golf resorts and hotels? Yes. It's all an act. He has so many people completely fooled. Like he's some conservative hero. Bull...shit. 
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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,752
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    ecdanc said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present






    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)
    Nope, not surprising at all. He's as fake and opportunistic as they come. If there was road to the presidency through the democratic primary, forget building a wall, he'd be standing at the border handing blue MAGA hats to illegal immigrants. "They're tremendous immigrants that need our help!" 

    Like really, do you think he ever gave a crap about illegal immigration before he decided to run for president? Why would he care? Is he at risk of the "murderers and rapists" that come over up in his Manhattan penthouse? No. Did he hate that his tax money is going to provide illegals with services? No, he didn't pay taxes. Does he like to hire illegals for cheap labor at his golf resorts and hotels? Yes. It's all an act. He has so many people completely fooled. Like he's some conservative hero. Bull...shit. 
    Go on, I'm listening........
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
    Iowa's system is not the electoral college. Iowa's system is a small handful of people with the time to line up in a room deciding who wins and loses. I'm all for improving the EC, but let's not pretend Iowa has anything to do with that. 
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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    JimmyV said:
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
    Iowa's system is not the electoral college. Iowa's system is a small handful of people with the time to line up in a room deciding who wins and loses. I'm all for improving the EC, but let's not pretend Iowa has anything to do with that. 
    Looking at all the symptoms is crucial for diagnosing the disease. 

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
    Iowa is not like the electoral college at all. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
    Iowa's system is not the electoral college. Iowa's system is a small handful of people with the time to line up in a room deciding who wins and loses. I'm all for improving the EC, but let's not pretend Iowa has anything to do with that. 
    Looking at all the symptoms is crucial for diagnosing the disease. 

    Diagnosing all symptoms as stemming from the same disease is foolish. 
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  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    True. At the national level, we'd never have someone receive more votes and lose an election. 
    Iowa is not like the electoral college at all. 
    Depends on your perspective, I guess.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,086
    edited February 2020
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    That is not my point. Stop finger-wagging on the internet. Please.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    JimmyV said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
    That is not my point. Stop finger-wagging on the internet. Please.
    SMH
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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,752
    begs the question, what was the participation rate in the predom AA areas?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    mickeyrat said:
    begs the question, what was the participation rate in the predom AA areas?
    African Americans make up 3.2% of the total
    population of Iowa. At that rate how many black precincts could there be?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,752
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    begs the question, what was the participation rate in the predom AA areas?
    African Americans make up 3.2% of the total
    population of Iowa. At that rate how many black precincts could there be?
    found this... iowa pop overall 3.3 million.

    https://suburbanstats.org/race/iowa/how-many-black-or-african-american-people-live-in-iowa
    82k AA.... 15k male under 18.
    15k female under 18. leaving 50k potentially eligible to caucus/vote.

    Given higher incarceration percentage amongst this population, I wonder how many are either eligible or ineligble because of record?

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  • Ex-advisor to Obama: Biden has a big problem




    https://youtu.be/j2FvAoAUacM
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391

    Ex-advisor to Obama: Biden has a big problem




    https://youtu.be/j2FvAoAUacM
    People need to chill.  Since 1972, the Iowa caucuses have had a 55% success rate at predicting which democrat and a 43% success rate at predicting which republican will go on to win the nomination of their political party for president. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,351
    mcgruff10 said:

    Ex-advisor to Obama: Biden has a big problem




    https://youtu.be/j2FvAoAUacM
    People need to chill.  Since 1972, the Iowa caucuses have had a 55% success rate at predicting which democrat and a 43% success rate at predicting which republican will go on to win the nomination of their political party for president. 
    If you have the money,  there are no problems until after Super Tuesday
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,351
    This is what all these pundits know,  but don't talk about consistently because then they don't have a gig.  The first two only matter because the donor money starts shifting after these first two contests.  If you have the money,  you can ride out losses.  
    Biden could have a problem,  but not just because he lost Iowa and will lose NH. Neither were ever expected to be strong for him.  Pete is the story. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    This is what all these pundits know,  but don't talk about consistently because then they don't have a gig.  The first two only matter because the donor money starts shifting after these first two contests.  If you have the money,  you can ride out losses.  
    Biden could have a problem,  but not just because he lost Iowa and will lose NH. Neither were ever expected to be strong for him.  Pete is the story. 
    It's all about momentum at this point.  This is huge for Pete.  I've been saying biden/pete for a long time however I'd like pete/? too.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,086
    edited February 2020
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    For me, it feels like winning is the one thing for him, and I think he would blow around like a leaf wherever his team tell him the winds are the best for it. Just what I feel from interviews with him, and stuff like him lying about polls etc. 

    But whatever. At least he didn't have part in voting through the war crime that is the war in Iraq.

    https://youtu.be/b-w9V9azgp8
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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