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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,458
    Castro's gone. 
    Good. Beat it Julio
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,937
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:



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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:



    The irony of the media covering Bernie's complaints of no media coverage. 

    His team is in perpetual victim mode.  The reality is that his rise coincides with Warren's retreat in the polls.  Just like his fall was connected with her rise.  
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:



    The irony of the media covering Bernie's complaints of no media coverage. 

    His team is in perpetual victim mode.  The reality is that his rise coincides with Warren's retreat in the polls.  Just like his fall was connected with her rise.  
    Pretty much.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    Bernie can fuck off
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    CM189191 said:
    Bernie can fuck off
    But I thought we were “voting blue no matter who” or whatever bullshit nursery rhyme y’all are drilling into your/everyone’s heads.

    Maybe some volunteers can wait outside the polls and reward blue voters with Scooby snacks as they exit. 

    “Did you vote blue no matter who? Who’s a good boy? Who’s a good boy? You’re a good boy!”
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    dankind said:
    CM189191 said:
    Bernie can fuck off
    But I thought we were “voting blue no matter who” or whatever bullshit nursery rhyme y’all are drilling into your/everyone’s heads.

    Maybe some volunteers can wait outside the polls and reward blue voters with Scooby snacks as they exit. 

    “Did you vote blue no matter who? Who’s a good boy? Who’s a good boy? You’re a good boy!”
    I would argue voting blue is the only grown up thing to do. 

    Some adults believe that they will never have their perfect candidate so they do the right thing and not be a baby about it because they don't want to have 4 more years of the worst president in modern history.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    edited January 2020
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
    They should feel compelled to vote for whoever is running against Trump (unless they like Trump of course) because he is exponentially worse than any of the democratic candidates running, by any measure, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with a nursery rhyme.

    If a voter leaves that voting line blank or for a 3rd party that is a vote for status quo. 


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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
    They should feel compelled to vote for whoever is running against Trump (unless they like Trump of course) because he is exponentially worse than any of the democratic candidates running, by any measure, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with a nursery rhyme.

    If a voter leaves that voting line blank or for a 3rd party that is a vote for status quo. 


    In your opinion.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    dankind said:
    CM189191 said:
    Bernie can fuck off
    But I thought we were “voting blue no matter who” or whatever bullshit nursery rhyme y’all are drilling into your/everyone’s heads.

    Maybe some volunteers can wait outside the polls and reward blue voters with Scooby snacks as they exit. 

    “Did you vote blue no matter who? Who’s a good boy? Who’s a good boy? You’re a good boy!”
    Bernie != Blue

    that's why he didn't win the nomination last time

    and why he won't this time
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,937
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
    I've always held to this dankind, but 2020 for me is the exception.  I'll vote for whichever Democratic candidate wins the Primary, hope to god they win, and then hope I never have to make a blind choice like that again.  Yeah, it sucks.

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
    I've always held to this dankind, but 2020 for me is the exception.  I'll vote for whichever Democratic candidate wins the Primary, hope to god they win, and then hope I never have to make a blind choice like that again.  Yeah, it sucks.

    Me, too. I'm sure there are plenty of my posts where I defended voting my conscience. Sounds good in theory. In practice it gave us Trump. I'll be voting for whichever GOP challenger leads the polls in the primary and for whichever Dem candidate is the nominee in the general. My two votes will be against Trump, and for sanity.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,225
    edited January 2020
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,450
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    Adults lining up to do the right thing, the grown-up thing, and vote for a candidate who likely wears diapers.

    I can't wait.
    I'm curious to hear what your better alternative is?

    Show up to the polls; vote for what/who you want; don't vote for what/who you don't want.

    Fairly simple process. Your other votes aren't voided if you leave a couple of line items blank. No one should feel compelled to vote for anyone or anything just because of a silly nursery rhyme or because someone calls them a baby if they don't.

    Oh, and hope against hope that we don't have another hostile takeover of our elections by foreign adversaries.
    I've always held to this dankind, but 2020 for me is the exception.  I'll vote for whichever Democratic candidate wins the Primary, hope to god they win, and then hope I never have to make a blind choice like that again.  Yeah, it sucks.

    I think a lot of us are in the same boat! No way can I just leave that line blank and I’m def not voting for the current mess I have to vote for whom ever comes out of the democratic side , do I wish there were better options off course ..
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,937
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,341
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,937
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........

    Well, at least that's a more articulate comment than "he sucks"...
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,225
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........

    Well, at least that's a more articulate comment than "he sucks"...
    Is it Bernies fault we have a two party system and candidates running in those parties for national office have huge cash advantage?

    FWIW Bernie co founded the Progressive Caucus and was allowed by party leadership to caucus with the democrats since 1994.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,405
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........
    Dude's been running a solid second so there's obviously some appetite for what he's peddling 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,937
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........

    Well, at least that's a more articulate comment than "he sucks"...
    Is it Bernies fault we have a two party system and candidates running in those parties for national office have huge cash advantage?

    FWIW Bernie co founded the Progressive Caucus and was allowed by party leadership to caucus with the democrats since 1994.

    I would say "no".
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,341
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's been pointed out to me by a fellow forum member here (for which I am grateful, thanks!) that Bernie Sanders has been shunned by the press lately.  December was a very busy time for me, so that might account for my not having noticed this, but now with this head up, I have to wonder what is up with that?  The Hill posted a good article that talks about this.  Media bias- something to think about:




    CNN HATES Bernie. CNN makes a ton of money from big pharma. It’s not stop drug commercials on there.

    Media companies that survive from advertising hate Bernie. He is looking to kill the golden goose. And the wealthy scare people into disliking him. You won’t keep your doctor. You’ll lie in pain forever waiting for a doctor to treat you, etc.

     Capitalism begat Capitalism begat Capitalism
    Everyone hates Bernie because he sucks

    Not everyone thinks Bernie sucks.  And isn't that a rather vague and unnecessarily slanderous summation of Sanders?  What has the man done to make you so miserable?
    hijack a party apparatus he isnt a member of? lets start there........

    Well, at least that's a more articulate comment than "he sucks"...
    Is it Bernies fault we have a two party system and candidates running in those parties for national office have huge cash advantage?

    FWIW Bernie co founded the Progressive Caucus and was allowed by party leadership to caucus with the democrats since 1994.

    I would say "no".
    my reply is so fucking what. do the goddamned work.

    he claims democratic socialism. yet runs as independent for senate.

    making promises that will never be kept (as are others).

    frankly I am about done with 60 yr old plus candidates.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    Bernie is playing the hand he was dealt, trying to change the system from within. Better than whining about the system and refusing to participate.

    Whether you like him or not I think that's honorable.
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