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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    did bernie drop out yet?

    bernie needs to drop out
    Biden needs to drop out.

    Tara Reade has been trying to tell her story since it happened in 1993, when she was working as a staff assistant for Joe Biden. She told part of her story-- about how Biden would put his hands on her shoulders and run his fingers up and down her neck-- in the spring of 2019 after Lucy Flores accused Biden of kissing the top of her head and smelling her hair inappropriately. But Reade didn't tell her full story. As Ryan Grim reveals at The Intercept, Reade asked for help from Time's Up, but the organization said it could not support her because a case taking on Biden would jeopardize their non-profit status. Tara is finally telling the story she's been trying to tell for decades. While there were no witnesses to Biden's alleged sexual assault of Tara Reade, her brother and close friend, both of whom I've spoken to, recall Reade telling them about it at the time


    Description of the sexual assault (not kissing children, or massaging from behind -- but SEXUAL ASSAULT by Joe Biden):

    https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

    Sounds like Joe Biden felt he had the right to - grab women, by the pussy?
    Telling her story to who?  The media?

    I don't know how they do things in Sweden, but there is a court system here (see also: checks and balances). 

    She can testify or be deposed.  She can put her story on legal record and compel Biden to respond.  
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    did bernie drop out yet?

    bernie needs to drop out
    Biden needs to drop out.

    Tara Reade has been trying to tell her story since it happened in 1993, when she was working as a staff assistant for Joe Biden. She told part of her story-- about how Biden would put his hands on her shoulders and run his fingers up and down her neck-- in the spring of 2019 after Lucy Flores accused Biden of kissing the top of her head and smelling her hair inappropriately. But Reade didn't tell her full story. As Ryan Grim reveals at The Intercept, Reade asked for help from Time's Up, but the organization said it could not support her because a case taking on Biden would jeopardize their non-profit status. Tara is finally telling the story she's been trying to tell for decades. While there were no witnesses to Biden's alleged sexual assault of Tara Reade, her brother and close friend, both of whom I've spoken to, recall Reade telling them about it at the time


    Description of the sexual assault (not kissing children, or massaging from behind -- but SEXUAL ASSAULT by Joe Biden):

    https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

    Sounds like Joe Biden felt he had the right to - grab women, by the pussy?
    Telling her story to who?  The media?

    I don't know how they do things in Sweden, but there is a court system here (see also: checks and balances). 

    She can testify or be deposed.  She can put her story on legal record and compel Biden to respond.  
    Biden needs to drop out.

    Did he yet?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,789
    I have to ask. 
    If this same exact story, in the same exact situation came out about anyone else in either party that you don’t support, would you be this vigilant in defending? Would you victim blame? You should be seriously dig deep and be answering this question to yourselves. 
    And again, I have no dog in this race. IM the clip clip horseshoe, both sides are bad in their own stubborn ways guy. 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    did bernie drop out yet?

    bernie needs to drop out
    Biden needs to drop out.

    Tara Reade has been trying to tell her story since it happened in 1993, when she was working as a staff assistant for Joe Biden. She told part of her story-- about how Biden would put his hands on her shoulders and run his fingers up and down her neck-- in the spring of 2019 after Lucy Flores accused Biden of kissing the top of her head and smelling her hair inappropriately. But Reade didn't tell her full story. As Ryan Grim reveals at The Intercept, Reade asked for help from Time's Up, but the organization said it could not support her because a case taking on Biden would jeopardize their non-profit status. Tara is finally telling the story she's been trying to tell for decades. While there were no witnesses to Biden's alleged sexual assault of Tara Reade, her brother and close friend, both of whom I've spoken to, recall Reade telling them about it at the time


    Description of the sexual assault (not kissing children, or massaging from behind -- but SEXUAL ASSAULT by Joe Biden):

    https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

    Sounds like Joe Biden felt he had the right to - grab women, by the pussy?
    Telling her story to who?  The media?

    I don't know how they do things in Sweden, but there is a court system here (see also: checks and balances). 

    She can testify or be deposed.  She can put her story on legal record and compel Biden to respond.  
    Biden needs to drop out.

    Did he yet?

    Standard of proof and takes three basic forms:

    "clear and convincing evidence," an intermediate standard
    "beyond a reasonable doubt," the standard used in criminal trials
    "preponderance of the evidence," the standard used in most civil cases
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,186
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

    How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?
    I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 
    Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
    And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

    Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?
    I was simply putting emphasis on the words our and us. Our being supporters of a particular party and us being all citizens. The same Congress made up of members from the 2 parties that can’t seem to work together very effectively? That is my issue. I said I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion on the matter. I was not implying that you didn’t think I had the right not to vote. Would you call out a fan who didn’t agree with a call made during a sporting event because they aren’t the ones playing? I don’t have a problem communicating with people who have a different viewpoint, if mine is not welcome just let me know and there will be no hard feelings.


    One party’s fundamental mantra is to maximize the wealth of billionaires. To put economy ahead of lives. To make unrealistic claims and not believe in science.

    How exactly is the other party supposed to work with that? Why should they concede fundamentally on what is beneficial for the public?

    Should you be expected to “work together effectively” if the other side is extreme. Let’s say terrorists as an example.

    Scientists are telling republicans we are 30 to 45 days from peak infection rate. Trumps very own ID specialist said at his very own press briefing we need to prepare for this to be a seasonal crisis. Republicans respond by saying we want to be open for business by Easter. How is that not terrorism?
    Again, my viewpoint is that both sides contribute to the problem and could be doing a better job. If you think the dems are saints that is your choice and I'm sure they are very glad to have sunk their claws into you. Scientists are all over the board on this thing so instead of jumping to conclusions lets just see how it plays out, we are not open for business yet. I choose not to live my life based on what ifs.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask. 
    If this same exact story, in the same exact situation came out about anyone else in either party that you don’t support, would you be this vigilant in defending? Would you victim blame? You should be seriously dig deep and be answering this question to yourselves. 
    And again, I have no dog in this race. IM the clip clip horseshoe, both sides are bad in their own stubborn ways guy. 
    Are we not to look deeper and ask questions? Was Blasey-Ford taken on her word, at face value, when the allegations came to light? Did we not investigate the allegations against Bill Clinton? What about Weinstein or any of the other perps of the #metoo movement? Why should we believe a podcast reportedon by a Pakistani news agency?

    I saw it on social media so it must be true. And in the infamous words of a repub house member during the impeachment hearings, was you there?

    And yes, I certainly would take what has been reported thus far with a grain of salt regardless of political party or affiliation because it doesn't come across as a legitimate way to register your complaint, particularly if you've been trying to "tell your story since 1993."
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,186
    nicknyr15 said:
    I have to ask. 
    If this same exact story, in the same exact situation came out about anyone else in either party that you don’t support, would you be this vigilant in defending? Would you victim blame? You should be seriously dig deep and be answering this question to yourselves. 
    And again, I have no dog in this race. IM the clip clip horseshoe, both sides are bad in their own stubborn ways guy. 
    I guess we should only take women seriously when they don't threaten the magical blue utopia. <-- This opinion is coming from another clip clop horseshoe wearing radical so it should be easily dismissed.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

    How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?
    I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 
    Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
    And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

    Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?
    I was simply putting emphasis on the words our and us. Our being supporters of a particular party and us being all citizens. The same Congress made up of members from the 2 parties that can’t seem to work together very effectively? That is my issue. I said I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion on the matter. I was not implying that you didn’t think I had the right not to vote. Would you call out a fan who didn’t agree with a call made during a sporting event because they aren’t the ones playing? I don’t have a problem communicating with people who have a different viewpoint, if mine is not welcome just let me know and there will be no hard feelings.


    One party’s fundamental mantra is to maximize the wealth of billionaires. To put economy ahead of lives. To make unrealistic claims and not believe in science.

    How exactly is the other party supposed to work with that? Why should they concede fundamentally on what is beneficial for the public?

    Should you be expected to “work together effectively” if the other side is extreme. Let’s say terrorists as an example.

    Scientists are telling republicans we are 30 to 45 days from peak infection rate. Trumps very own ID specialist said at his very own press briefing we need to prepare for this to be a seasonal crisis. Republicans respond by saying we want to be open for business by Easter. How is that not terrorism?
    Again, my viewpoint is that both sides contribute to the problem and could be doing a better job. If you think the dems are saints that is your choice and I'm sure they are very glad to have sunk their claws into you. Scientists are all over the board on this thing so instead of jumping to conclusions lets just see how it plays out, we are not open for business yet. I choose not to live my life based on what ifs.
    If only our government had some way to keep power in check, a way to keep things in balance.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    edited March 2020
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

    How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?
    I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 
    Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
    And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

    Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?
    I was simply putting emphasis on the words our and us. Our being supporters of a particular party and us being all citizens. The same Congress made up of members from the 2 parties that can’t seem to work together very effectively? That is my issue. I said I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion on the matter. I was not implying that you didn’t think I had the right not to vote. Would you call out a fan who didn’t agree with a call made during a sporting event because they aren’t the ones playing? I don’t have a problem communicating with people who have a different viewpoint, if mine is not welcome just let me know and there will be no hard feelings.
    I'm not telling you to stop posting and STFU, I'm asking you for an intellectual argument regarding the criticism when you are not participating in teh system at all.  I presume that includes at your local/municipal, state and federal level.  And I'm in agreement that the lack of working across the aisle is frustrating (that's how I interpret your statements), which is why I've supported both Biden and Pete, both of whom have pledged to work on bipartisan solutions.  And we saw a major one last night.  
    So if Biden is pledging to work with R's, why the hesitation to vote for him when that seems to be a point of pain for you?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Isn't it pretty much the Britney Spears "we should support our president" factor.

    If a bear was attacking our tent, I wouldn't disparage the one guy in the tent with a gun we all have to put our faith to. Whether we like to or not.
    You mean the guy hiding in his sleeping bag pretending there are no such things as bears? Nah, I wouldn't put my life in that guys hands.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021

    Rising exclusive: Joe Biden accuser Tara Reade speaks out

    Former staffer for Joe Biden Tara Reade recounts her experience from the 1990s with then-Senator Joe Biden including inappropriate touching, and her denial of legal resources from the #MeToo organization Time's Up.

    https://youtu.be/ZmVUQ7ii3_4


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021

    Joe Biden To Bernie Sanders: ‘We’ve Had Enough Debates’

    https://youtu.be/aLEOqR_HTqk

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793

    Rising exclusive: Joe Biden accuser Tara Reade speaks out

    Former staffer for Joe Biden Tara Reade recounts her experience from the 1990s with then-Senator Joe Biden including inappropriate touching, and her denial of legal resources from the #MeToo organization Time's Up.

    https://youtu.be/ZmVUQ7ii3_4


    Anyone seen Jacob Wohl lately?
    Let's see the receipts lady.  Testify, be deposed.  Enough with the media, put up or shut up.
    While we're at it, let's see all her travel, bank, phone and text records for the last couple years. 
    Prove you haven't been put up to this stunt by some low-life GOP operative.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
    But you also said the US couldn't have more than two parties and degraded people for saying they could. And then it turns out they can.

    So maybe once again, what you say and what the truth is - is completely different?
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    These things stick these days, though.

    Look at Woody. Medical examinations supported his denial of sexual abuse, the courts rejected the allegations, but he's still a pariah.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    I wanna see a CNN panel discussion on the different backdrops in Bernie and Biden at home streams:




    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    Did Kavanaugh’s accuser reluctantly testify under oath in televised hearings? Did you watch those hearings? Did she come across as believable? Has Sleepy “woke” Joe’s accuser been deposed under oath, given a sworn statement or otherwise filed criminal charges? Was Kavanaugh smeared?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    Did Kavanaugh’s accuser reluctantly testify under oath in televised hearings? Did you watch those hearings? Did she come across as believable? Has Sleepy “woke” Joe’s accuser been deposed under oath, given a sworn statement or otherwise filed criminal charges? Was Kavanaugh smeared?
    Yes. Yes. Yes. No, not that I know of. I would bet my life on that he was smeared in cocaine during his time in lawschool.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
    But you also said the US couldn't have more than two parties and degraded people for saying they could. And then it turns out they can.

    So maybe once again, what you say and what the truth is - is completely different?

    The US is a two-party system. Our checks and balances are within the three branches of government.

    You're degrading yourself by believing otherwise.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
    But you also said the US couldn't have more than two parties and degraded people for saying they could. And then it turns out they can.

    So maybe once again, what you say and what the truth is - is completely different?

    The US is a two-party system. Our checks and balances are within the three branches of government.

    You're degrading yourself by believing otherwise.
    Thank you for proving my point.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
    But you also said the US couldn't have more than two parties and degraded people for saying they could. And then it turns out they can.

    So maybe once again, what you say and what the truth is - is completely different?

    The US is a two-party system. Our checks and balances are within the three branches of government.

    You're degrading yourself by believing otherwise.
    Thank you for proving my point.

    Self-degredation seems like an odd point to make, but ok....
    Post edited by CM189191 on
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,021
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:

    Rising exclusive: Joe Biden accuser Tara Reade speaks out

    Former staffer for Joe Biden Tara Reade recounts her experience from the 1990s with then-Senator Joe Biden including inappropriate touching, and her denial of legal resources from the #MeToo organization Time's Up.

    https://youtu.be/ZmVUQ7ii3_4


    Anyone seen Jacob Wohl lately?
    Let's see the receipts lady.  Testify, be deposed.  Enough with the media, put up or shut up.
    While we're at it, let's see all her travel, bank, phone and text records for the last couple years. 
    Prove you haven't been put up to this stunt by some low-life GOP operative.  
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    Did Kavanaugh’s accuser reluctantly testify under oath in televised hearings? Did you watch those hearings? Did she come across as believable? Has Sleepy “woke” Joe’s accuser been deposed under oath, given a sworn statement or otherwise filed criminal charges? Was Kavanaugh smeared?

    Joe Biden: When a woman alleges sexual assault, presume she is telling the truth

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Maybe Woody Allen can direct the Joe Biden biopic.
    With Weinstein producing, they will be sure to get some oscar nominations. 
    So wait,  the article in the Intercept yesterday said he sexually assaulted her, which was different than the charge in 2019 when she said he touched the back if her neck.  So what does this allegation say?
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, it’s a whisper campaign.
    Smeariously. 
    Like Kavanaugh was smeared?
    no, it's nothing like that
    in fact it's completely different
    But you also said the US couldn't have more than two parties and degraded people for saying they could. And then it turns out they can.

    So maybe once again, what you say and what the truth is - is completely different?

    The US is a two-party system. Our checks and balances are within the three branches of government.

    You're degrading yourself by believing otherwise.
    Too bad they are all too busy getting check$ to use the balances.
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