If Bernie wins the nomination, any Democrat who refuses to help him win the White House will be helping Trump and the Republicans. Inadvertently or otherwise.
It’s not the Democrats Bernie needs to win. And if it’s not Bernie, what do all the Berniebrosises do? I know the answer and that’s a rub. Bernie’s not a 50/50 guy. Hell, he’s not even a dem.
WHATABOUTTHEBERNIEBROS?!?!? So establishment Dems are no better than "Bernie Bros?" Just think of all the fun this Democratic coalition can have fighting with itself for another four more years.
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
"You people mistook me for who?"
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
What was the ratio of dumbasses? I doubt it was equal ”bunches” ?
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
If Bernie wins the nomination, any Democrat who refuses to help him win the White House will be helping Trump and the Republicans. Inadvertently or otherwise.
It’s not the Democrats Bernie needs to win. And if it’s not Bernie, what do all the Berniebrosises do? I know the answer and that’s a rub. Bernie’s not a 50/50 guy. Hell, he’s not even a dem.
WHATABOUTTHEBERNIEBROS?!?!? So establishment Dems are no better than "Bernie Bros?" Just think of all the fun this Democratic coalition can have fighting with itself for another four more years.
No, I’m thinking, and personally I do for myself, that supporters of any other dem candidate, the vast majority of which, will vote for Bernie if he’s the nominee. If Bernie is not the nominee, I don’t think the same is true of the Berniebrosises, the vast majority of which will pout and stay home or vote third party. It’s a zero sum game for them. For the rest of us dems, getting Team Trump Treason out of office is more important than our pure as the driven snow politics. Bernie isn’t a dem.
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
What was the ratio of dumbasses? I doubt it was equal ”bunches” ?
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
Lol, you might be the Bernie Bro to end all Bernie Bros.
So much angst about Iowa (justified, IMO) and New Hampshire (less so) shaping the race, but South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee since Jimmy Carter. It's hard for me to really care about who Democrats there think should be on the ticket this year.
Then you also shouldn't care what TX, CA, NY, ME, MD and 40 some other states think either.
What?
If SC isn't voting for a Democrat either way, then you're right. Who cares. But CA and NY ARE voting for a Democrat, no matter who, so why do you care about that? The same logic applies. Under that logic, the only primaries that matter are FL, MI, PA, WI, and maybe AZ, CO, VA. The rest, you can just scrap.
South Carolina isn't voting for a Democrat either way. That is the point. And, yes, I do believe the SC primary could be scrapped.
So why not scrap NY? They are voting D either way. Like I said, just let swing states vote and concentrate all the campaigning and debates into the 8 or 10 swing states. If we don't care what our SC party members think, then logically we shouldn't care what the NY members think.
Because New York might not always vote Democrat and keeping voters there inspired is important. Because asking voters you need to win who they think is the best choice is important.
So SC can never possibly vote Democrat, so don't bother to give them a voice? These arguments cut both ways.
If there was a realistic chance of South Carolina voting Democrat in the near future, or any history at all of them doing so in my lifetime, I would not be making this case. There is neither. And I would be fine with scrapping the SC primary altogether, but my greater point is that, of all the early states, South Carolina should have the least say in who the Democratic nominee will be in 2020. At the very least move it to the back of the line.
SC is important not because it never votes D in the general, thats not the issue.
SC is the first test to see how enthusiastic the D base is. You can infer based on turnout in the SC primary how the base might turn out in swing states in the fall.
SC is also important because Biden needs momentum going into Super Tuesday. If Sanders gets a blowout in Cali and splits the rest of the states evenly Tues, that could spell trouble for voters wanting a democrat on the ticket in Nov.
South Carolina is neither a swing state nor a good indicator of Democratic base turnout. Iowa voted for Obama in 2008. New Hampshire has been blue since 2004 but historically has not been as reliably Democratic as other New England states. Both would paint a better picture of turnout and enthusiasm than South Carolina.
Jimmy Carter. 1976. Red state ever since.
Obama and Bill won because the base was energized. I didn't define the "democratic base" here yet but the SC African American vote represents 60% of the democratic vote.
SC Turnout and who they vote for will provide important information for candidates, especially Biden.
The African American vote in SC and other southern states are important hints to how the african american vote will turn out in swing states.
If Bernie wins the nomination, any Democrat who refuses to help him win the White House will be helping Trump and the Republicans. Inadvertently or otherwise.
It’s not the Democrats Bernie needs to win. And if it’s not Bernie, what do all the Berniebrosises do? I know the answer and that’s a rub. Bernie’s not a 50/50 guy. Hell, he’s not even a dem.
WHATABOUTTHEBERNIEBROS?!?!? So establishment Dems are no better than "Bernie Bros?" Just think of all the fun this Democratic coalition can have fighting with itself for another four more years.
No, I’m thinking, and personally I do for myself, that supporters of any other dem candidate, the vast majority of which, will vote for Bernie if he’s the nominee. If Bernie is not the nominee, I don’t think the same is true of the Berniebrosises, the vast majority of which will pout and stay home or vote third party. It’s a zero sum game for them. For the rest of us dems, getting Team Trump Treason out of office is more important than our pure as the driven snow politics. Bernie isn’t a dem.
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
What was the ratio of dumbasses? I doubt it was equal ”bunches” ?
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
Lol, you might be the Bernie Bro to end all Bernie Bros.
You mean ”bernie brorsa”. I’m swedish. Please respect my heritage.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
What was the ratio of dumbasses? I doubt it was equal ”bunches” ?
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
If someone is wearing a football jersey the first thing to rule out is that the name and number might belong to a Hall of Fame football player
This suggest Bernie is worse than average democrat.
With Tim Kaine endorsing Biden and Biden thinking he is running for the senate and not the presidency — now is truly the time to get a ticket to Bide! * choo choo*
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
What was the ratio of dumbasses? I doubt it was equal ”bunches” ?
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
If someone is wearing a football jersey the first thing to rule out is that the name and number might belong to a Hall of Fame football player
Yes. Obviously.
But there is a difference between:
”SOMETHING-SOMETHING COMMUNIST PIG”
and
”THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUT THE FIGHT FOR HEALTH CARE!”
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So much angst about Iowa (justified, IMO) and New Hampshire (less so) shaping the race, but South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee since Jimmy Carter. It's hard for me to really care about who Democrats there think should be on the ticket this year.
Then you also shouldn't care what TX, CA, NY, ME, MD and 40 some other states think either.
What?
If SC isn't voting for a Democrat either way, then you're right. Who cares. But CA and NY ARE voting for a Democrat, no matter who, so why do you care about that? The same logic applies. Under that logic, the only primaries that matter are FL, MI, PA, WI, and maybe AZ, CO, VA. The rest, you can just scrap.
South Carolina isn't voting for a Democrat either way. That is the point. And, yes, I do believe the SC primary could be scrapped.
So why not scrap NY? They are voting D either way. Like I said, just let swing states vote and concentrate all the campaigning and debates into the 8 or 10 swing states. If we don't care what our SC party members think, then logically we shouldn't care what the NY members think.
Because New York might not always vote Democrat and keeping voters there inspired is important. Because asking voters you need to win who they think is the best choice is important.
So SC can never possibly vote Democrat, so don't bother to give them a voice? These arguments cut both ways.
If there was a realistic chance of South Carolina voting Democrat in the near future, or any history at all of them doing so in my lifetime, I would not be making this case. There is neither. And I would be fine with scrapping the SC primary altogether, but my greater point is that, of all the early states, South Carolina should have the least say in who the Democratic nominee will be in 2020. At the very least move it to the back of the line.
SC is important not because it never votes D in the general, thats not the issue.
SC is the first test to see how enthusiastic the D base is. You can infer based on turnout in the SC primary how the base might turn out in swing states in the fall.
SC is also important because Biden needs momentum going into Super Tuesday. If Sanders gets a blowout in Cali and splits the rest of the states evenly Tues, that could spell trouble for voters wanting a democrat on the ticket in Nov.
South Carolina is neither a swing state nor a good indicator of Democratic base turnout. Iowa voted for Obama in 2008. New Hampshire has been blue since 2004 but historically has not been as reliably Democratic as other New England states. Both would paint a better picture of turnout and enthusiasm than South Carolina.
Jimmy Carter. 1976. Red state ever since.
Obama and Bill won because the base was energized. I didn't define the "democratic base" here yet but the SC African American vote represents 60% of the democratic vote.
SC Turnout and who they vote for will provide important information for candidates, especially Biden.
The African American vote in SC and other southern states are important hints to how the african american vote will turn out in swing states.
Helped the cause a ton in 2016. Those margins Hillary racked up in SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, etc. during February and March really paid dividends in November.
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
"You people mistook me for who?"
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
"You people mistook me for who?"
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So this is sort of funny. Garth Brooks played a concert in Detroit last night and wore a BARRY Sanders jersey, and posted a picture of him wearing it on Instagram. Talk about "triggered," a bunch of dumbasses on the right attacked him for being a BERNIE Sanders supporter, and a bunch of dumbasses on the left praised him for coming over to their side.
"You people mistook me for who?"
I must say, this one wasn't bad. So this one is for you, since you're the lord of the memes....
The only reason @cincybearcat doesn't like Trump (president #45) is it reminds him of the only two time Heisman winner.
As a one of the world's foremost appreciator of Michael Jordan's baseball career, I'm not big on Trump highjacking the number 45.
Do you think Trump knows that despite being the 45th president, he's actually the 44th person to be president? Everyone learns about Grover Cleveland's non-consecutive terms in like 7th grade. You think Trump knows it? I doubt it.
The only reason @cincybearcat doesn't like Trump (president #45) is it reminds him of the only two time Heisman winner.
As a one of the world's foremost appreciator of Michael Jordan's baseball career, I'm not big on Trump highjacking the number 45.
Do you think Trump knows that despite being the 45th president, he's actually the 44th person to be president? Everyone learns about Grover Cleveland's non-consecutive terms in like 7th grade. You think Trump knows it? I doubt it.
No, to your second question. To the first statement, are you sure you're not the ONLY appreciator?
The only reason @cincybearcat doesn't like Trump (president #45) is it reminds him of the only two time Heisman winner.
As a one of the world's foremost appreciator of Michael Jordan's baseball career, I'm not big on Trump highjacking the number 45.
Do you think Trump knows that despite being the 45th president, he's actually the 44th person to be president? Everyone learns about Grover Cleveland's non-consecutive terms in like 7th grade. You think Trump knows it? I doubt it.
No, to your second question. To the first statement, are you sure you're not the ONLY appreciator?
So much angst about Iowa (justified, IMO) and New Hampshire (less so) shaping the race, but South Carolina hasn't voted for a Democratic nominee since Jimmy Carter. It's hard for me to really care about who Democrats there think should be on the ticket this year.
Then you also shouldn't care what TX, CA, NY, ME, MD and 40 some other states think either.
What?
If SC isn't voting for a Democrat either way, then you're right. Who cares. But CA and NY ARE voting for a Democrat, no matter who, so why do you care about that? The same logic applies. Under that logic, the only primaries that matter are FL, MI, PA, WI, and maybe AZ, CO, VA. The rest, you can just scrap.
South Carolina isn't voting for a Democrat either way. That is the point. And, yes, I do believe the SC primary could be scrapped.
So why not scrap NY? They are voting D either way. Like I said, just let swing states vote and concentrate all the campaigning and debates into the 8 or 10 swing states. If we don't care what our SC party members think, then logically we shouldn't care what the NY members think.
Because New York might not always vote Democrat and keeping voters there inspired is important. Because asking voters you need to win who they think is the best choice is important.
So SC can never possibly vote Democrat, so don't bother to give them a voice? These arguments cut both ways.
If there was a realistic chance of South Carolina voting Democrat in the near future, or any history at all of them doing so in my lifetime, I would not be making this case. There is neither. And I would be fine with scrapping the SC primary altogether, but my greater point is that, of all the early states, South Carolina should have the least say in who the Democratic nominee will be in 2020. At the very least move it to the back of the line.
SC is important not because it never votes D in the general, thats not the issue.
SC is the first test to see how enthusiastic the D base is. You can infer based on turnout in the SC primary how the base might turn out in swing states in the fall.
SC is also important because Biden needs momentum going into Super Tuesday. If Sanders gets a blowout in Cali and splits the rest of the states evenly Tues, that could spell trouble for voters wanting a democrat on the ticket in Nov.
South Carolina is neither a swing state nor a good indicator of Democratic base turnout. Iowa voted for Obama in 2008. New Hampshire has been blue since 2004 but historically has not been as reliably Democratic as other New England states. Both would paint a better picture of turnout and enthusiasm than South Carolina.
Jimmy Carter. 1976. Red state ever since.
Obama and Bill won because the base was energized. I didn't define the "democratic base" here yet but the SC African American vote represents 60% of the democratic vote.
SC Turnout and who they vote for will provide important information for candidates, especially Biden.
The African American vote in SC and other southern states are important hints to how the african american vote will turn out in swing states.
Helped the cause a ton in 2016. Those margins Hillary racked up in SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, etc. during February and March really paid dividends in November.
I'm not saying "helped." Just saying it provides interesting information.
2008 was a big win for obama and 2016 indicated the base did not trust sanders. Considering his strength was completely outside the south that was interesting information.
Biden has been punched by trump on a historic level, and by the dems as well. Hell get some momentum if he wins but there's not enough time to raise $ for tuesday.
The only reason @cincybearcat doesn't like Trump (president #45) is it reminds him of the only two time Heisman winner.
As a one of the world's foremost appreciator of Michael Jordan's baseball career, I'm not big on Trump highjacking the number 45.
Do you think Trump knows that despite being the 45th president, he's actually the 44th person to be president? Everyone learns about Grover Cleveland's non-consecutive terms in like 7th grade. You think Trump knows it? I doubt it.
If he did, he'd try to change it to him being the 44th president.
I just Found out that Grover Cincinatie is the 22nd and 24th President. No way some LOSER from the 1400's should get to be listed TWICE when Your favorite president (who's going to Serve AT LEAST FIVE terms) is only listed once. Unfair! I am 44. Actually, I am 43 because Obama's from Kenya.
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So establishment Dems are no better than "Bernie Bros?" Just think of all the fun this Democratic coalition can have fighting with itself for another four more years.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
and why would someone be a dumbass for not knowing some sport-guy and being happy they show support for a good guy (bernie) ?
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Obama and Bill won because the base was energized. I didn't define the "democratic base" here yet but the SC African American vote represents 60% of the democratic vote.
SC Turnout and who they vote for will provide important information for candidates, especially Biden.
The African American vote in SC and other southern states are important hints to how the african american vote will turn out in swing states.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But there is a difference between:
”SOMETHING-SOMETHING COMMUNIST PIG”
and
”THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUT THE FIGHT FOR HEALTH CARE!”
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Do you think Trump knows that despite being the 45th president, he's actually the 44th person to be president? Everyone learns about Grover Cleveland's non-consecutive terms in like 7th grade. You think Trump knows it? I doubt it.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
To the first statement, are you sure you're not the ONLY appreciator?
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I'm not saying "helped." Just saying it provides interesting information.
2008 was a big win for obama and 2016 indicated the base did not trust sanders. Considering his strength was completely outside the south that was interesting information.
Biden has been punched by trump on a historic level, and by the dems as well. Hell get some momentum if he wins but there's not enough time to raise $ for tuesday.
I just Found out that Grover Cincinatie is the 22nd and 24th President. No way some LOSER from the 1400's should get to be listed TWICE when Your favorite president (who's going to Serve AT LEAST FIVE terms) is only listed once. Unfair! I am 44. Actually, I am 43 because Obama's from Kenya.
2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
Just curious- which Pete fans do you see as phony? Or do you see them as generally all being phony? Honestly curious- I'd never heard that one before.