The Democratic Presidential Debates
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This is redundant to his "Improve the ACA" plank. We would have both? How would they differ and how would eligibility for each differ? It tells me he either doesn't know what he's talking about or he just wants the political capital of advocating for both (even though it makes no sense).Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States0 -
She should have at least explained how to lie about your heritage to further your career. The struggling college student needs any help she can get. Instead she took her $3 and acted like it was something amazing the student did.
warren is so out of touch.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.masslive.com/politics/2020/02/critics-target-elizabeth-warren-for-accepting-3-donation-from-broke-college-student.html%3foutputType=amp
I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
With the ACA, you are on an exchange for private insurers. It does not offer you the chance to purchase any form of gov't facilitated insurance. The choice option would provide that option.pjl44 said:
This is redundant to his "Improve the ACA" plank. We would have both? How would they differ and how would eligibility for each differ? It tells me he either doesn't know what he's talking about or he just wants the political capital of advocating for both (even though it makes no sense).Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States0 -
I agree with this... I thought it was an odd thing to publicize. Although I bet the girl is actually supported by her parents and not the last $6 to which she had access.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:She should have at least explained how to lie about your heritage to further your career. The struggling college student needs any help she can get. Instead she took her $3 and acted like it was something amazing the student did.
warren is so out of touch.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.masslive.com/politics/2020/02/critics-target-elizabeth-warren-for-accepting-3-donation-from-broke-college-student.html%3foutputType=amp0 -
Regarding the "improve the plank" comment... Have medicare as an option on the exchanges and also an option to be provided by employers. Expand the rebates to make it affordable for everyone.
But as I said above if we go too far left we risk a conservative court til 2055 and we have a better chance to live in Neil Peart's opus than seeing any govt assisted plan for all for the majority of this century.0 -
You and I have very different definitions of what it means to win, so maybe don't use "we" when responding to me.Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
Yes, but is that really the measuring stick?Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States
I'm baffled by the people here who think M4A is some pie-eyed betrayal of DNC principles. Harry Truman of all people supported a universal system (that went farther than FDR and the New Deal). Christ, if Harry fucking Truman showed up in 2020, he'd be labeled a Socialist!
Probably Eisenhower would be labeled a liberal as well. That's the point and it's why moderation is the proper vote in 2020.
The point is to WIN. The electoral college gives a disproportionate voting power to the swing states and trumps base.
We risk everything if we start giving the oppositions socialist argument validity with a too progressive plan right now.
The 2 oldest Justices are liberal and over 80 and might need to be replaced between now and Jan 2025.
We could be risking a 7-2 supreme court. That could be staunchly conservative for at least 30 years and ANY liberal healthcare mandate would be out the window until 2055.0 -
ecdanc said:
You and I have very different definitions of what it means to win, so maybe don't use "we" when responding to me.Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
Yes, but is that really the measuring stick?Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States
I'm baffled by the people here who think M4A is some pie-eyed betrayal of DNC principles. Harry Truman of all people supported a universal system (that went farther than FDR and the New Deal). Christ, if Harry fucking Truman showed up in 2020, he'd be labeled a Socialist!
Probably Eisenhower would be labeled a liberal as well. That's the point and it's why moderation is the proper vote in 2020.
The point is to WIN. The electoral college gives a disproportionate voting power to the swing states and trumps base.
We risk everything if we start giving the oppositions socialist argument validity with a too progressive plan right now.
The 2 oldest Justices are liberal and over 80 and might need to be replaced between now and Jan 2025.
We could be risking a 7-2 supreme court. That could be staunchly conservative for at least 30 years and ANY liberal healthcare mandate would be out the window until 2055.
"We" was referring to the Democrats as in the topic of this thread.
Instead of thinking my comment is personal, how about addressing the risks of locking in a conservative court for 30 years? I'm assuming you are down with that.0 -
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The ideological distance between Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Antonin Scalia is smaller than the distance between me and Bernie Sanders. The narrowness of your political horizons lead you to ask questions that miss the point.Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
You and I have very different definitions of what it means to win, so maybe don't use "we" when responding to me.Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
Yes, but is that really the measuring stick?Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States
I'm baffled by the people here who think M4A is some pie-eyed betrayal of DNC principles. Harry Truman of all people supported a universal system (that went farther than FDR and the New Deal). Christ, if Harry fucking Truman showed up in 2020, he'd be labeled a Socialist!
Probably Eisenhower would be labeled a liberal as well. That's the point and it's why moderation is the proper vote in 2020.
The point is to WIN. The electoral college gives a disproportionate voting power to the swing states and trumps base.
We risk everything if we start giving the oppositions socialist argument validity with a too progressive plan right now.
The 2 oldest Justices are liberal and over 80 and might need to be replaced between now and Jan 2025.
We could be risking a 7-2 supreme court. That could be staunchly conservative for at least 30 years and ANY liberal healthcare mandate would be out the window until 2055.
"We" was referring to the Democrats as in the topic of this thread.
Instead of thinking my comment is personal, how about addressing the risks of locking in a conservative court for 30 years? I'm assuming you are down with that.0 -
How did it go when you (democrats) went with "safe" option the last elections?Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
Yes, but is that really the measuring stick?Lerxst1992 said:dignin said:
A normal moderate Republican similar to Romney.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination.wndowpayne said:Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.
democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.
The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.
Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.This does not look so republican to me-- Create a Medicare-like public insurance option
- Improve and expand enrollment in Affordable Care Act plans
- Allow people to keep their private insurance
- Cap health care prices
- Lower drug costs
- Expand access to dental, hearing, and vision coverage
- Create a permanent reinsurance program that reduces customer premiums
The spectrum has moved so far right that he seems almost left.
"Create a Medicare-like public insurance option"
Would be the most progressive healthcare system in the history of the United States
I'm baffled by the people here who think M4A is some pie-eyed betrayal of DNC principles. Harry Truman of all people supported a universal system (that went farther than FDR and the New Deal). Christ, if Harry fucking Truman showed up in 2020, he'd be labeled a Socialist!
Probably Eisenhower would be labeled a liberal as well. That's the point and it's why moderation is the proper vote in 2020.
The point is to WIN. The electoral college gives a disproportionate voting power to the swing states and trumps base.
We risk everything if we start giving the oppositions socialist argument validity with a too progressive plan right now.
The 2 oldest Justices are liberal and over 80 and might need to be replaced between now and Jan 2025.
We could be risking a 7-2 supreme court. That could be staunchly conservative for at least 30 years and ANY liberal healthcare mandate would be out the window until 2055.
Will Biden saying "Look, I'm a full-on capitalist, pretty much a republican really. Don't worry. There is no big difference. Come on man. Please be riled up by me"
really be better than Bernie going
"Yes, I am a democratic socialist, but Donald Trump is a corporate socialist living off the government with billion dollar subsidies instead of you people getting healthcare that doesn't cost double that of other major countries" ?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
its evident someone here has read and incorporated into their lives Carnegie's book "How Make Friends And Influence People".......
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....
The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
You didn't give an answer. You just rephrased you assertion that I have asked you to clarify:mickeyrat said:oh I see now. because you cant vote your opinion is irrelevant.
What has me not being able to vote to do with anything, why would my opinion be irrelevant here, please explain.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I didn't realize Twitter is the source of all that is true. Silly me. You should check your logic after reading Trump's twitter account.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....0 -
Don't forget book recommendations.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....0 -
mrussel1 said:
I didn't realize Twitter is the source of all that is true. Silly me. You should check your logic after reading Trump's twitter account.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....:rofl:I don't have twitter. Perhaps that is why I am just a simple man, with oh-so-simple thoughts.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Like many spaces (*looks around furtively*), there are smart people on Twitter and there are dumb people on Twitter.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:
I didn't realize Twitter is the source of all that is true. Silly me. You should check your logic after reading Trump's twitter account.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....:rofl:I don't have twitter. Perhaps that is why I am just a simple man, with oh-so-simple thoughts.0 -
ecdanc said:
Don't forget book recommendations.F Me In The Brain said:mrussel1 said:Doesn't everyone realize by now that whatever ecdanc shares is what the truth is?How many tweets or links does he have to share & then clarify for you all?Jeez....
Thanks, I forgot to include those!The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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