The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,972
    pjl44 said:
    Congressional Democrats from Florida are pounding Sanders today over that Castro comment

    I couldn't find anything Sanders said that was false.  What did I miss?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,489
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,489
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat said:
    Fabricating an equation like you are doing now — Is straight from the Trump playbook. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,489
    mickeyrat said:
    Fabricating an equation like you are doing now — Is straight from the Trump playbook. 
    did you read it?


    tell me for the first time how his agenda get passed into law?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Fabricating an equation like you are doing now — Is straight from the Trump playbook. 
    did you read it?


    tell me for the first time how his agenda get passed into law?
    Can't read WP. 

    And do not know why someone would choose to read or post from WP of all newspapers. 

    In the words of Bern Sandz "Good friends: /s" 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • During a CNN town hall in South Carolina, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) describes how he will fund his "Medicare for All" plan

    https://youtu.be/hYmlzB7AIWM
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Fabricating an equation like you are doing now — Is straight from the Trump playbook. 
    did you read it?


    tell me for the first time how his agenda get passed into law?
    What has him passing things or not, with my criticism of you pulling pages from the Trump playbook?

    It get passed by you getting some good folks into zie haus und zie zenate.

    And a Sanders presidency would be a clear signal to every person in your country being pushed down into the dirt by greed and lying propaganda of "this is the best way to run a country" that there finally is:

     

    because:

    The United Nations World Happiness Report shows that the happiest nations are concentrated in social democratic nations, especially in Northern Europe, where the Nordic model is dominant. This is at times attributed to the success of the Nordic model in the region, where similar democratic socialistlabourist and social democratic parties dominated the region's political scene and laid the ground to their universalistic welfare states in the 20th century. The Nordic countries, including Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden as well as Greenland and the Faroe Islands, also ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capitaeconomic equalitypublic healthlife expectancyhaving someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choicesgenerosityquality of life and human development while countries practicing a neoliberal form of government have registered relatively poorer results.[436][437] Similar reports have likewise listed Scandinavian and other social democratic countries as ranking high on indicators such as civil liberties,[438] democracy,[439] press,[440] labour and economic freedoms,[441][442] peace[443] and freedom from corruption.[444] Numerous studies and surveys indicate that people tend to live happier lives in countries ruled by social democratic parties, compared to countries ruled by neoliberal, centrist, or right-wing governments.[445][446][447][448]


    And remember:


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    Phony Pete


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    edited February 2020
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    Phony Pete


    Ah Julian Castro’s media Director is looking for work....
    Post edited by cincybearcat on
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    Phony Pete


    as my former boss used to say

    'not stolen, borrowed with pride'
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,615
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?

    I like Bernie . I really do. I'd be happy if he were president..

    But he has maybe 20% chance of beating trump and I'm being generous.  Forget what the polls say. People are brainwashed to say "WE CANT AFFORD IT" without even thinking

    I'm not even talking about Republicans.  I am talking about left leaning independents in a blue state. We desperately need independents to beat trump

    Only hope is Cali wakes the hell up next week
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    Congressional Democrats from Florida are pounding Sanders today over that Castro comment

    I couldn't find anything Sanders said that was false.  What did I miss?
    He didn't say anything false, but they're taking issue with his Castro defense 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/us/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-florida.html
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - was to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.

    (If I remember it correctly)
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?

    I like Bernie . I really do. I'd be happy if he were president..

    But he has maybe 20% chance of beating trump and I'm being generous.  
    Post the percentages of the other candidates(?). 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"


  • I agree with the Bloomberg campaign here - the US deserves better than oligarchs buying elections!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    edited February 2020
    Man, good luck to anyone who thinks they can confidently predict how any of these candidates would do in November 
    Post edited by pjl44 on
  • CM189191 said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    Phony Pete


    as my former boss used to say

    'not stolen, borrowed with pride'
    Some people steal.

    https://youtu.be/o9_KGQPGNoQ

    https://youtu.be/fmuAB5MqP0Y

    In his 1988 presidential bid, Joe Biden, who is now a Democratic presidential candidate for 2020, plagiarized portions of speeches made by former President John F. Kennedy, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy (D-N.Y.) and British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock. It effectively led to him dropping out of the race.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Current system 50 trillion dollar. 

    Bernies Medicare system 30 trillion dollar

    20 trillion over for Pearl Jam merch

    https://youtu.be/FxBf3HB0ddQ

    Sanders Campaign Senior Adviser: Medicare For All Saves “Substantial” Money

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    The "We don't need to release anything. Bernie is healthy, have you seen how how many rallies he does?! Have you seen him on the trail?!" thing is the worst shit I have ever heard.

    That reeks of Trumps behavior in 2016.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    Yes it was in reply to cuomo who was trying to say that the estimates for cost were still 2X more than his sheet said he’d raise to pay. He gave cuomo the sheet and then didn’t want him to talk about it.  I thought that was weird. As was the old man bababababap. Weird moment where he looked prepared to answer the question, I thought he was going to own the moment. He didn’t 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    Yes it was in reply to cuomo who was trying to say that the estimates for cost were still 2X more than his sheet said he’d raise to pay. He gave cuomo the sheet and then didn’t want him to talk about it.  I thought that was weird. As was the old man bababababap. Weird moment where he looked prepared to answer the question, I thought he was going to own the moment. He didn’t 
    But he did go into how to pay for it? What did you feel was left out? Him throwing out an excel document at a towm hall?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited February 2020
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • the problem with bernie's castro comments is you simply cannot, in today's reactive culture, say anything good about anyone bad because that turns into you thinking that person, who was bad, was all good, and you get destroyed for it. people can't take facts. it's all emotion and outrage. and it's intellectually destroying all discourse. 

    if only the MSM would take trumpers to task like they are doing to the democratic candidates, we might have a somewhat sane system right now. 
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