The Democratic Presidential Debates
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mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:
https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.0 -
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I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when you're from Ohio lolMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when you're from Ohio lol0 -
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Solid showing by Sanders. Pete continues to beat expectations. Great showing for Amy! Moderates having a good night.Funny that Warren and Biden were the candidates six months ago, and now they’re on the ropes. It’s hard to see where Liz wins.0
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I’m embarrassed by what’s happened to my country. Hardly recognize it anymore. When was the last time four federal prosecutors resigned because of the actions of the AG? And that’s just scratching the surface of the last three to four years with one of two major political parties totally fine with all of it. Disgusting.mrussel1 said:
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when ?you're from Ohio lol09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Today was just another disgusting day.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m embarrassed by what’s happened to my country. Hardly recognize it anymore. When was the last time four federal prosecutors resigned because of the actions of the AG? And that’s just scratching the surface of the last three to four years with one of two major political parties totally fine with all of it. Disgusting.mrussel1 said:
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when ?you're from Ohio lol0 -
mrussel1 said:
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when you're from Ohio lolOhio or LI?
NYC and the city suburbs/Nassau are blue. Longtime Republican Peter King won a close election last time and announced his retirement after the midterms, probably seeing the writing on the wall. Once you get to central Suffolk, away from the city and a little exurban, it gets scary trump country. That’s Rep Lee Zeldin’s district. The Hamptons of course go back to the blue zone. Surprisingly not enough to turn Zeldins seat blue. Before trump started marginalizing race and immigrants, that district used to be blue.It was a bit of a risky move by Eddie in 2003, since Bush leveraged 9/11 to justify the Iraq war, and we were hit very hard by that attack and many casualties were from the Island. Not a smart move by Ed, but still embarrassing the legendary Fort Neverlose aka Nassau Coliseum was the site of perhaps the most embarrassing PJ crowd of all time.0 -
Still kind of a bad look though. The old “take your ball and go home” look.mrussel1 said:
That's his Alamo. He has to win convincingly there.Ledbetterman10 said:So Biden is high-tailing it out of New Hampshire and heading towards South Carolina.Like you said though, South Carolina looks good for him, and Super Tuesday is the following week. He’s still tangibly okay. But intangibly, perception is reality. And he’s probably being perceived as a washed-up loser in many areas of the country right now.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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He's been a senior senator and 2x VP. Loser? His resume is better than 99.8% of Americans.Ledbetterman10 said:
Still kind of a bad look though. The old “take your ball and go home” look.mrussel1 said:
That's his Alamo. He has to win convincingly there.Ledbetterman10 said:So Biden is high-tailing it out of New Hampshire and heading towards South Carolina.Like you said though, South Carolina looks good for him, and Super Tuesday is the following week. He’s still tangibly okay. But intangibly, perception is reality. And he’s probably being perceived as a washed-up loser in many areas of the country right now.0 -
Ohio... how do you have so many Trump humpers in a blue area.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when you're from Ohio lolOhio or LI?
NYC and the city suburbs/Nassau are blue. Longtime Republican Peter King won a close election last time and announced his retirement after the midterms, probably seeing the writing on the wall. Once you get to central Suffolk, away from the city and a little exurban, it gets scary trump country. That’s Rep Lee Zeldin’s district. The Hamptons of course go back to the blue zone. Surprisingly not enough to turn Zeldins seat blue. Before trump started marginalizing race and immigrants, that district used to be blue.It was a bit of a risky move by Eddie in 2003, since Bush leveraged 9/11 to justify the Iraq war, and we were hit very hard by that attack and many casualties were from the Island. Not a smart move by Ed, but still embarrassing the legendary Fort Neverlose aka Nassau Coliseum was the site of perhaps the most embarrassing PJ crowd of all time.0 -
1.6% win. its solid. that may change slightly with 10% of precincts still to report.....damn good showing by pete. amy too.
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Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m embarrassed by what’s happened to my country. Hardly recognize it anymore. When was the last time four federal prosecutors resigned because of the actions of the AG? And that’s just scratching the surface of the last three to four years with one of two major political parties totally fine with all of it. Disgusting.mrussel1 said:
I’m a native but left at 18. I’m embarrassed with what has happened to my beloved hometown.rgambs said:
I would definitely be embarrassed about how my town acted in that case if I was from there too!Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Nassau, long Island?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
Where do you live? I'm in finance and I know very few Trump supporters. And all of them demur when I go into his behavior as a human. They just talk about the economy.Lerxst1992 said:oftenreading said:
That’s a disheartening poll in so many ways.mrussel1 said:
It is interesting that the only person on the board actively advocating for Bernie isn't a US citizen. I don't have any problem with our Canadian, Australian, Swedish friends putting out their opinion. I'm pointing out that on a rock board from a leftish wing band, there aren't really any Bernie fans from the US.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
C'mon @spiritual_chaos I'm ready to "face the argumentation". Explain to me why it's wrong for Pete to declare victory with an official lead in the delegates, but okay for Bernie who is behind to declare decisive victory? You're like our own little Joseph Goebbels, the minister of propaganda while you litter the boards with You Tube clip, memes and gifs.mrussel1 said:
So with your silly story, you're saying that because of the chance that re-canvassing may change teh result, Pete should not declare victory. By contrast, because the re-canvassing may change the result it's okay that Sanders declares "decisive" victory? Can you please square that logic, because it completely escapes common sense.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I just did. You just put your energy into putting people down, instead of having to face the argumentation. Proven not only by this, but also your "pot blabla kettle" post.mrussel1 said:
How about constructing a mature argument and actually countering my point.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not. So that means he had strong data coming from his precinct captains. Tell me what was weasly about it, and contrast it with why Sanders saying his victory was "decisive" is okay.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What was it when he declared victory and had his team call up every news source in america to make sure that story spread?mrussel1 said:
They didn't get the same delegate count, so why would anyone say that? It's 13-12 currently. Now that doesn't mean re-canvassing won't flip that, but as of now, it's not a tie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you were an honest man, you would say they both were the winners getting the same delegates. That is what it was all about?mrussel1 said:
Weasel pushing? I'd argue the opposite. Bernie declaring "decisive" victory was much closer to weasely... considering as of this moment, Pete is the winner and has the most SDE's. Iowa is a caucus and that's how delegates work. You don't get to declare victory because you won the popular, when that's not how the process is set up. Just ask Hillary.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Ain't got a subscription.Halifax2TheMax said:
https://apple.news/AizHAnpitRHyONtTeS2qU9QSpiritual_Chaos said:
Timestamp on when he "whined" about Iowa the most recent?Halifax2TheMax said:Bernie should quit whining about Iowa and move on already. Really Bernie, you can’t win coming in second in Iowa?
But whatevz. He gets questions about it. He and Petes agrees the popular vote is what counts, so Bernie won - jippie. Pete weasel-pushing the narrative of his win was "smart" but backbone-less. Bernie countered it by him saying how he won for real. just like Biden countered when Pete attacked.
And I don't need to ask "Hillary" - I CAN JUST ASK PETE:
"At risk of of sounding a little simplistic, one thing I believe is that in an american presidential election, the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person who wins"
The "Pete standard" as Jake Tapper calls it. And even Pete can't spin it:https://youtu.be/KpKJJ5lbOS8
(and now you maybe will say - but that is the presidential election, he didn't say ioooowaaaaaa - he's free on a technicality.
And we all know who famously was let free on a technicality)
A house is red.
Stupid Mayor: That house is blue.
Stupid Mayor lies.
Days later the house is painted blue.
M Russel: Was he wrong? As of this moment, no he's not.
If the house was red. Yes, he was wrong.
Tenses is a thing.
But it is okey. You have been bending backwards to try to save your arguments while they go sour in hours, for Biden and Pete these last few pages. I understand it takes a toll. You have been a (making up) Dream(s) Warrior.
Like Bernie like son.
Gallup released a poll today that shows that 53% of Americans would not vote for a socialist. That includes a majority of independents and 25% of Democrats. That's a death poll for Sanders and the D's if it's accurate. By contrast 8/10 would vote for a gay candidate. That number surprises me a bit. Either way, now you know why Trump has been white gloves on Sanders. Here's the applicable table and link:Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID% Yes, would vote for that personRepublican Independent Democrat % % % Black 91 97 99 Catholic 95 94 97 Hispanic 90 94 99 A woman 86 95 99 Jewish 92 92 95 An evangelical Christian 88 77 77 Gay or lesbian 62 82 89 Under the age of 40 63 72 75 Over the age of 70 73 68 66 Muslim 42 71 88 An atheist 41 68 69 A socialist 17 45 76 GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndicationPrejudice is alive and well, and comes in many different flavours.Nov 2016 wasn’t a punch to your jaw? I could have ODd that night. I think.
Is Victoria as pretty as Vancouver? That’s one city I really want to visit. I bring that up because it’s different when you live thru trumps victory here. Even in a solid blue state.
Its a lot different when Trump wins your country by inspiring division and hate. And your in-laws vote for him. All of them. (My wife is more liberal than me btw). And all the white people at work that voted for him, including the pretty woman I have to sit next to 8 hours a day. Full on maga head. Vomit.Hint (this should be a juicy one to a long time porch vet).
im about fifteen miles from the scene of Eddie’s biggest political disaster. And very embarrassed by it.We have a winner.
There's plenty to be embarrassed about when ?you're from Ohio lolFlush twice, my friend. It's a long way to hell.This nation is starting to look like a hard core alcoholic or substance abuser. Sometimes the only way they will get better is to hit rock bottom. From there it's either moving on to a healthier life, or it's death. I've seen it go both ways. I'm hoping for a healthier life for this country. I'm a die-hard optimist that way. We'll see."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
A win is a win, hardly impressive though. I thought tonight showed a large group of the party in NH that wants nothing to do with their neighbor Bernie. Pete and Amy. I wonder which one will last....benjs said:Good for Sanders! Really impressive.hippiemom = goodness0 -
I’m not talking about his resume. I’m talking about his 5th place finish last night and him ducking out early because of it.mrussel1 said:
He's been a senior senator and 2x VP. Loser? His resume is better than 99.8% of Americans.Ledbetterman10 said:
Still kind of a bad look though. The old “take your ball and go home” look.mrussel1 said:
That's his Alamo. He has to win convincingly there.Ledbetterman10 said:So Biden is high-tailing it out of New Hampshire and heading towards South Carolina.Like you said though, South Carolina looks good for him, and Super Tuesday is the following week. He’s still tangibly okay. But intangibly, perception is reality. And he’s probably being perceived as a washed-up loser in many areas of the country right now.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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The Dems only hope. Is he on the ballot in South Carolina or is he not on any ballots till Super Tuesday?The Juggler said:MIKE WILL GET IT DONE2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I agree. Bernie met expectations tonight. He certainly didn't exceed them with a 1.5% win. You would have thought he could get a majority in NH, considering how poorly Liz did.cincybearcat said:
A win is a win, hardly impressive though. I thought tonight showed a large group of the party in NH that wants nothing to do with their neighbor Bernie. Pete and Amy. I wonder which one will last....benjs said:Good for Sanders! Really impressive.0
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