The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
    I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
    These boards have a big time whiteness problem; I thought we should talk about it. I guess the mods are anti-anti-racist. 
    Those damn moderators. Censoring a college professor who just wants to show us all the way. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,648
    mcgruff10 said:
    eddiec said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)
    I did not know that.  None of the us players went pro from what I remember.  
    Yes they did.  And there were some Russians as well,  including Fetisov who was a HOFer.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,475
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
    I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
    These boards have a big time whiteness problem; I thought we should talk about it. I guess the mods are anti-anti-racist. 
    Those damn moderators. Censoring a college professor who just wants to show us all the way. 
    Someone just got banned. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    This is pathetic

    Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
      Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

      Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

      Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

      Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

      Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

      Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

      Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


      He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
      I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
      fire burn GIF
    • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,475
      mrussel1 said:
      mcgruff10 said:
      eddiec said:
      mcgruff10 said:
      mrussel1 said:
      Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


      We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
      A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)
      I did not know that.  None of the us players went pro from what I remember.  
      Yes they did.  And there were some Russians as well,  including Fetisov who was a HOFer.
      Yup, I was completely wrong. 
      I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
    • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
      ecdanc said:
      Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
      I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
      There was no reason to close that thread.
    • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,974
      brianlux said:

      What is proxy-endorsing? 
      Him endorsing Bernie but not plainly saying he is. Instead tweeting a news article about another person endorsing Bernie.

      I can't say for sure but I would think Yang will directly endorse one of the candidates sooner or later.  It will be interesting to see who.
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    • dignin said:
      ecdanc said:
      Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
      I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
      There was no reason to close that thread.
      Doesn't really matter to me either way. I wasn't going to be posting in it. I'd go on further but there's no reason to talk about someone who is banned.
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    • brianlux said:
      brianlux said:

      What is proxy-endorsing? 
      Him endorsing Bernie but not plainly saying he is. Instead tweeting a news article about another person endorsing Bernie.

      I can't say for sure but I would think Yang will directly endorse one of the candidates sooner or later.  It will be interesting to see who.

      mcgruff10 said:
      This is pathetic

      Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
        Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

        Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

        Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

        Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

        Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

        Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

        Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


        He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
        Could be him being on CNN now maybe stops/hinders him. 
        "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
      • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,648
        dignin said:
        ecdanc said:
        Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
        I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
        There was no reason to close that thread.
        Doesn't really matter to me either way. I wasn't going to be posting in it. I'd go on further but there's no reason to talk about someone who is banned.
        And there's no reason to take a shot at our moderator who gives us pretty wide latitude to act like adults. 
      • dignin said:
        ecdanc said:
        mcgruff10 said:
        This is pathetic

        Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
          Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

          Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

          Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

          Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

          Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

          Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

          Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


          He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
          I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
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        • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,648
          dignin said:
          ecdanc said:
          mcgruff10 said:
          This is pathetic

          Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
            Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

            Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

            Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

            Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

            Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

            Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

            Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


            He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
            I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
            fire burn GIF
            Do you mean to tell me that my SAG ballot doesn’t count? And that my TV Guide poll is a fraud?
            Honestly dude,  you have been cracking me up lately with the one liners.  Your bonafide dig yesterday was great. 
          • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
            mrussel1 said:
            dignin said:
            ecdanc said:
            Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
            I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
            There was no reason to close that thread.
            Doesn't really matter to me either way. I wasn't going to be posting in it. I'd go on further but there's no reason to talk about someone who is banned.
            And there's no reason to take a shot at our moderator who gives us pretty wide latitude to act like adults. 
            I guess I can go back to not blocking anyone?  Nice.
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          • mrussel1 said:
            dignin said:
            ecdanc said:
            mcgruff10 said:
            This is pathetic

            Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
              Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

              Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

              Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

              Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

              Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

              Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

              Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


              He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
              I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
              fire burn GIF
              Do you mean to tell me that my SAG ballot doesn’t count? And that my TV Guide poll is a fraud?
              Honestly dude,  you have been cracking me up lately with the one liners.  Your bonafide dig yesterday was great. 
              It wasn’t a dig, it was appropriation of some quality adjectivism.
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            • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,475
              mrussel1 said:
              dignin said:
              ecdanc said:
              mcgruff10 said:
              This is pathetic

              Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
                fire burn GIF
                Do you mean to tell me that my SAG ballot doesn’t count? And that my TV Guide poll is a fraud?
                Honestly dude,  you have been cracking me up lately with the one liners.  Your bonafide dig yesterday was great. 
                Halifax is a funny mo fo.  It would be cool to meet up before a show and have some beers.  We will not mention the second amendment lol. 

                I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
              • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
                mcgruff10 said:
                This is pathetic

                Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                  Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                  Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                  Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                  Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                  Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                  Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                  Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                  He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                  I don't know about the moron part....

                  But yeah, will be interesting to see if these other candidates actually go after him tomorrow night or if they'll continue to go after the guy who's not even on a ballot until Super Tuesday.

                  I wonder how much Bernie is paying Liz....
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                • mcgruff10 said:
                  This is pathetic

                  Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                    Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                    Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                    Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                    Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                    Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                    Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                    Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                    He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                    I don't know about the moron part....

                    But yeah, will be interesting to see if these other candidates actually go after him tomorrow night or if they'll continue to go after the guy who's not even on a ballot until Super Tuesday.

                    I wonder how much Bernie is paying Liz....
                    Sanders/Warren? What's a VP's salary? And the perks? Weddings and funerals. Funerals, mostly.
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                  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
                    dignin said:
                    ecdanc said:
                    mcgruff10 said:
                    This is pathetic

                    Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                      Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                      Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                      Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                      Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                      Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                      Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                      Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                      He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                      I don't think anyone is voting for Anderson Cooper. 
                      fire burn GIF
                      Do you mean to tell me that my SAG ballot doesn’t count? And that my TV Guide poll is a fraud?
                      Anderson Cooper Lol GIF
                    • brianlux said:
                      brianlux said:

                      What is proxy-endorsing? 
                      Him endorsing Bernie but not plainly saying he is. Instead tweeting a news article about another person endorsing Bernie.

                      I can't say for sure but I would think Yang will directly endorse one of the candidates sooner or later.  It will be interesting to see who.
                        Could be him being on CNN now maybe stops/hinders him.

                      Or just him waiting for whoever wins. 
                      "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
                    • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
                      edited February 2020
                      mcgruff10 said:
                      This is pathetic

                      Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                        Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                        Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                        Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                        Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                        Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                        Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                        Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                        He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                        I don't know about the moron part....

                        But yeah, will be interesting to see if these other candidates actually go after him tomorrow night or if they'll continue to go after the guy who's not even on a ballot until Super Tuesday.

                        I wonder how much Bernie is paying Liz....
                        They have been going after him for a long time about not knowing how to pay for it. Especially Biden

                        And Liz is digging at Bernie every interview. Keep up
                        Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
                        "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
                      • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,615
                        eddiec said:
                        mcgruff10 said:
                        mrussel1 said:
                        Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                        We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                        A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                        One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                      • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,648
                        eddiec said:
                        mcgruff10 said:
                        mrussel1 said:
                        Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                        We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                        A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                        One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                        ESPN had a big write up on Pavelivich last week.  He is really struggling and in a criminal psych ward.  CTE is suspected.  
                      • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
                        mcgruff10 said:
                        This is pathetic

                        Cooper: Do you know how all -- how much though? I mean, do you have a price tag for -- for all of this?
                          Sanders: We do. I mean, you know, and -- and-- the price tag is -- it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion.

                          Cooper: That's just for "Medicare for All," you're talking about?

                          Sanders: That's just "Medicare for All," yes.

                          Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

                          Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

                          Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

                          Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.


                          He is such a moron.  How anyone is voting for this guy is beyond me.  
                          I don't know about the moron part....

                          But yeah, will be interesting to see if these other candidates actually go after him tomorrow night or if they'll continue to go after the guy who's not even on a ballot until Super Tuesday.

                          I wonder how much Bernie is paying Liz....
                          They have been going after him for a long time about not knowing how to pay for it. Especially Biden

                          And Liz is digging at Bernie every interview. Keep up

                          Build the Wall : MAGAts :: Medicare for All : Bernie Bros
                        • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,475
                          eddiec said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                          We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                          A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                          One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                          I loved henrik for a long time but he is done.  The new Russian goalie is the real deal.  
                          Side note: my favorite player of all time is Adam graves. 
                          I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
                        • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,615
                          ecdanc said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          @mrussel1 check out the 586 polling site and do a search for VA 2020. They have VA going to Trump by a few points no matter who he's up against.
                          I don't see it.  I assume you mean 538. The most recent look is from a few days ago and every D wins. 

                          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/
                          They had Hillary in a runaway in 2016, didn't they?

                          No


                          Looks to me like they did....

                          It was as low as 64% the week of the election and the national average must be considered with their state averages to get a clearer understanding. 

                          538 had the 3 tipping point states at 1% in 2016.

                          Yes my runaway wording was wrong, I see that.
                          Looking at their final 2016 forecast, though, only supports my question as to why I would care about their polling.
                          With all items considered they stated that there was only a 10.5% chance that Clinton would win the popular vote but lose the electoral college.

                          Polling and these sorts of things proved to be unreliable last go-around and I do not put any faith in them this time.


                          This is a very unfair portrayal of 538. If we look at their state analysis, which is how we pick presidents, the huge  warning signs were there.


                          Further if we recall the facts and circumstances on the day these odds were set... it was the day after Comey cleared clinton of the supposed new evidence on Weiners computer.

                          IIRC Nate Silver explained at the time there wasn't enough time to poll this "exoneration " and they had alot of guesswork the final few days accounting for Comey's last minute exoneration. 



                          #trumpisminvadesAMT


                          Not sure what the hashtag there is meant to imply, but trying to convince me to trust 538 or any other polling in what they show us now is a lost cause.  I am glad that they are things that you like - and that there are others who get something from them.

                          None of it matters with regard to the debates, the nominee, or the general election.  I will vote for whomever opposes the large, orange, man in the Oval Office currently.

                          538 takes the aggregate and weighs each poll based on their historical accuracy and evidence it provides for its sampling techniques. Its the best attempt at statistical info and not perfect

                          Real Clear Politics is simply a basic average of all polls, which can be very inaccurate 

                          538 is usually a good indicator and after the Comey letter went out, they raised trump to 36% and I was literally peeing in my pants from fear.
                        • mcgruff10 said:
                          eddiec said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                          We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                          A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                          One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                          I loved henrik for a long time but he is done.  The new Russian goalie is the real deal.  
                          Side note: my favorite player of all time is Adam graves. 

                          F #9 - overrated!  :lol:                      (busting Rangers chops is a favorite past time of mine, my brother is a hard core Rangers fan)
                          The love he receives is the love that is saved
                        • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,615
                          mrussel1 said:
                          eddiec said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                          We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                          A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                          One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                          ESPN had a big write up on Pavelivich last week.  He is really struggling and in a criminal psych ward.  CTE is suspected.  

                          Very sad news.

                          I was referring to Kenny Morrow. Went from Miracle on Ice to four Cups.

                          Take that King Henrik 
                        • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,475
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          eddiec said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                          We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                          A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                          One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                          I loved henrik for a long time but he is done.  The new Russian goalie is the real deal.  
                          Side note: my favorite player of all time is Adam graves. 

                          F #9 - overrated!  :lol:                      (busting Rangers chops is a favorite past time of mine, my brother is a hard core Rangers fan)
                          1994 was a loooooong time ago. 
                          I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
                        • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,615
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          ecdanc said:
                          ecdanc said:
                          Does anyone know who we write to if we think one of the moderators is racist?
                          I think they know you're just trying to stir shit with your "On Whiteness" thread. 
                          These boards have a big time whiteness problem; I thought we should talk about it. I guess the mods are anti-anti-racist. 
                          Those damn moderators. Censoring a college professor who just wants to show us all the way. 
                          Someone just got banned. 

                           Permanent? What did I miss today? Uh oh there is a white related closed topic. 
                        • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,648
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          eddiec said:
                          mcgruff10 said:
                          mrussel1 said:
                          Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


                          We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
                          A bunch of them went on to play in the NHL. (Many years after, though.)

                          One in fact, went on to win four consecutive Stanley cups. Take that King Henrik.
                          I loved henrik for a long time but he is done.  The new Russian goalie is the real deal.  
                          Side note: my favorite player of all time is Adam graves. 

                          F #9 - overrated!  :lol:                      (busting Rangers chops is a favorite past time of mine, my brother is a hard core Rangers fan)
                          1994 was a loooooong time ago. 
                          Are you Devils or Rangers?
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