The Democratic Presidential Debates
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I thought the most cringe worthy moment was Biden and Bernie arguing over who has the most blacks. They do realize slavery is over?ecdanc said:
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Re: our conversation about QueersagainstPete, a facebook post from one of my queer friends (last night):

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He doesn’t really though.Spiritual_Chaos said:
He answers this in the debate.mickeyrat said:still waiting to hear how his agenda gets passed to. sign into law.
I happen to believe, you don't care about listening. You just want to bicker.
And as I saw someone write: "No one ever talks about the death toll of incremental change".hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:
I thought the most cringe worthy moment was Biden and Bernie arguing over who has the most blacks. They do realize slavery is over?ecdanc said:

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The republicans lamented the same thing in 2016. What has changed since 2018 mid terms really though? Are people depressed that Trump was acquitted? That was a foregone conclusion. The people make themselves heard every two years ( or every year in VA since we do state on odd year), and the GOP was smoked in 17, 18, and 19. Forget daily news. It means little.mcgruff10 said:0 -
He has a t-shirt for every slogan, and every position known to man hanging in that closet - and he is ready use it. Whatever it takes. To have the correct opinion to reach what he wants.ecdanc said:Re: our conversation about QueersagainstPete, a facebook post from one of my queer friends (last night):
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
He reads The New Yorker?!? That's the last straw.Spiritual_Chaos said:
He has a t-shirt for every slogan, and every position known to man hanging in that closet - and he is ready use it. Whatever it takes. To have the correct opinion to reach what he wants.ecdanc said:Re: our conversation about QueersagainstPete, a facebook post from one of my queer friends (last night):
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I've been a fan of Klobuchar since she announced. I'm glad she's hanging on. Hopefully she will make it to Super Tuesday when I can vote for her.brianlux said:Oh man, I'm feeling a bit gutted. I'm such a huge Andrew Yang fan but the bottom line is, Trump needs to be defeated. After tonight's debate, I have serious doubts Yang is there yet. I hope he can regain his energy and hang in there. If I had to vote strictly on this debate (I watched every second closely), I would vote for Amy Klobuchar. She was amazing. But overall, I'm still a Yang guy. I like his outside-of-the-box approach.But some time ago I had read something about her that led me to say about her run for president, "no way", right then and there. My mind is cluttered with a lot of things goings on right now and the aging of my brain is not helping. I'm hoping I can find that issue again to determine how important it is. She probably failed me on some environmental issue and as I've said a thousand times, if the earth is not hospitable to human life, there will be no political or social issues, period. So I must dig some more. Everything hinges on environment. But right now, it's very possibly Amy for me.0 -
yeah rightCM189191 said:
Warren will do great in the cabinet position. Yang too.cincybearcat said:
I would be for that.CM189191 said:Amy/Pete 2020Lots of the same in the debate. But I really thought Amy won this one. Pete was terrific. And while I don’t like him, Bernie was Bernie. Biden really just seems old and not sharp. I was surprised with how little Warren seemed to do, bad night for her. Steyer and yang were there too...I think.
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I'm sorry, but what the fuck is up with Chris Matthews.
Paraphrasing but:
Case A:
Bernie is a Democractic Socialist and wants everyone to have healthcare, want women to survive while giving birth, want women to have the right to stay home after giving birth, want better education possibilities etc.
Chris Matthews: Biden would stop if you were standing by the road with a stalled car. Would Bernie?! I don't see Bernie doing that?!
Later he has to apologise for being an idiot. But I guess this did not help him understand what democratic socialism means.
Case B:
Bernie: I am a democratic socialist. Look at countries like Denmark. They do a whole lot good for their people.
Chris Matthews:
His ignorance - and/or using his position to condition the audience with his political beliefs - is something else.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:
He answers this in the debate.mickeyrat said:still waiting to hear how his agenda gets passed to. sign into law.
I happen to believe, you don't care about listening. You just want to bicker.
And as I saw someone write: "No one ever talks about the death toll of incremental change".
You wanna reach for the moon, great, but that's gonna get us 4 more years of trump.
Its over.
"Record-High Level of Optimism About Financial FutureIn addition to U.S. adults' highly positive report on their current financial situation, Americans are also expressing peak optimism about their future personal financial situation. About three in four U.S. adults (74%) predict they will be better off financially a year from now, the highest in Gallup's trend since 1977."
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No it will not.Lerxst1992 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
He answers this in the debate.mickeyrat said:still waiting to hear how his agenda gets passed to. sign into law.
I happen to believe, you don't care about listening. You just want to bicker.
And as I saw someone write: "No one ever talks about the death toll of incremental change".
You wanna reach for the moon, great, but that's gonna get us 4 more years of trump.
Its over.
Having a candidate spewing rejected lines from an Aaron Sorking West Wing script and who stood for All Lives Matter and defended the racist mocking of the "I can't breathe" movement will give you those 4 more years of Trump though.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
And the Bernie Bros are at it again. Tearing down opposition with bullshit. You know what, no longer do I just dislike bernies platform and how he campaigns. I just dislike him as a person now. High and mighty dirty old bullshitter.ecdanc said:
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Please defend this, you being a Pete Pal:cincybearcat said:
And the Bernie Bros are at it again. Tearing down opposition with bullshit. You know what, no longer do I just dislike bernies platform and how he campaigns. I just dislike him as a person now. High and mighty dirty old bullshitter.ecdanc said:

"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I’m would have to look into more than the Bernie / Russian troll farm posts.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Please defend this, you being a Pete Pal:cincybearcat said:
And the Bernie Bros are at it again. Tearing down opposition with bullshit. You know what, no longer do I just dislike bernies platform and how he campaigns. I just dislike him as a person now. High and mighty dirty old bullshitter.ecdanc said:

still waiting for you to defend Bernie lying about Warren.hippiemom = goodness0 -
He said he did not say it.cincybearcat said:
I’m would have to look into more than the Bernie / Russian troll farm posts.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Please defend this, you being a Pete Pal:cincybearcat said:
And the Bernie Bros are at it again. Tearing down opposition with bullshit. You know what, no longer do I just dislike bernies platform and how he campaigns. I just dislike him as a person now. High and mighty dirty old bullshitter.ecdanc said:

still waiting for you to defend Bernie lying about Warren.
Still waiting for you defending Warrens campaign putting out lies about Bernie?
There you go.
And look into it. I check back tomorrow."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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