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YOUR SIX TIME SOON TO BE SEVEN TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    A long way to go. This is a mediocre football team. 

    The Patriots at this point remind me a bit of the drought-Bills.

    They are in an extreme offensive league and try to win like it is 1956 by running the ball, limiting mistakes, and defense.  It is a great formula to be in the middle of the pack and maybe be in a position to steal a wild card once in awhile.
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    MayDay10 said:
    A long way to go. This is a mediocre football team. 

    The Patriots at this point remind me a bit of the drought-Bills.

    They are in an extreme offensive league and try to win like it is 1956 by running the ball, limiting mistakes, and defense.  It is a great formula to be in the middle of the pack and maybe be in a position to steal a wild card once in awhile.
    Fair comment. 
    For the record, i dislike the Bills the least out of the rest of the AFC East. The Bills could win 3 Super Bowls and I would still hate the Fins and Jets more. Lol.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    edited December 2022
    I used to kind of root for the patriots.  At least when they were relatively harmless and had the best uniforms in football in the early 90s. Even with Bledsoe and they became a pain in the ass toward the back end of buffalo's relevancy, I didn't dislike them.  I even was happy they won their first superbowl.

    The 18 years of complete dominance though made me salty.  

    I do "hate" the Dolphins and jets more though.  I don't even consider the Dolphins a real fan base, and by rule, I loathe all NYC teams.  

    Belichick appears to have lost touch with the modern nfl.  It's surprising because he seemed so far ahead of the game and completely adapted 3-5 times during the dynasty. 
    His coaching staff just stinks of loyal people he is comfortable with who are willing to work with him.  The modern nfl is mcvay and that little pipsqueek in Miami scheming how to launder mass quantities of points.

    I could also see them getting Lamar Jackson and McDaniels comes back and they suddenly can score 30 points a game and win 14 games next year.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    How many Joneses they got on that team?
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    ikiT said:
    How many Joneses they got on that team?
    I can’t keep up with the Jones’s. So I’m not trying 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    ikiT said:
    How many Joneses they got on that team?
    69
    Mac, Jack, Marcus, Jonathan, John, Paul, George, Ringo, Eddie, Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt, Dave, Bill, Bob, Ray-Ray, Luther, Poindexter, Eugene, Willfred, Peter, Ace, Deuce, Trey, Philip, Tom, Rob, Austin, Barry, Sal, Jim, Brian, Elihu, Sam, Warren, Xavier, Rufus, Greg, Kyle, Norman, Mike, Howard, Fred, Larry, Adam, Alex, Wolfgang, Jamie, Sven, Richard, Spaulding, Rodney, Giannis, Ulysses, Trent, Aloysius, Trevor, Bubba, Steve, Ian, Jim-Bob, Artemis, Leonard, Noah, Jermaine, Tito, Huck & Matthias, 
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Poncier said:
    ikiT said:
    How many Joneses they got on that team?
    69
    Mac, Jack, Marcus, Jonathan, John, Paul, George, Ringo, Eddie, Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt, Dave, Bill, Bob, Ray-Ray, Luther, Poindexter, Eugene, Willfred, Peter, Ace, Deuce, Trey, Philip, Tom, Rob, Austin, Barry, Sal, Jim, Brian, Elihu, Sam, Warren, Xavier, Rufus, Greg, Kyle, Norman, Mike, Howard, Fred, Larry, Adam, Alex, Wolfgang, Jamie, Sven, Richard, Spaulding, Rodney, Giannis, Ulysses, Trent, Aloysius, Trevor, Bubba, Steve, Ian, Jim-Bob, Artemis, Leonard, Noah, Jermaine, Tito, Huck & Matthias, 
    You forgot Mrs.

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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,627
    I still can't believe that dude got the ladies he did.
    :lol:    
    Good for him, I can't stand their music.  @wobbie loves them.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
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    1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited December 2022
    I still can't believe that dude got the ladies he did.
    :lol:    
    Good for him, I can't stand their music.  @wobbie loves them.
    Haha. I was watching the documentary on the Viper room and he was being interviewed. Dude is almost unrecognizable. I thought “that’s Durowitz?” Crazy. 

    I like the bands first three records. In fact, the OG of Recovering the Satellites is an amazing sounding record. Sadly, the masters are gone forever due to the Universal fire. 

    I’m not sold on Mac Jones personally. The rest are gonna be big stars 😁
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,480
    I still can't believe that dude got the ladies he did.
    :lol:    
    Good for him, I can't stand their music.  @wobbie loves them.
    the list of homely rock dudes who pulled major tail is long.

    and, yeah, I do hold the counting crows in high regard.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones


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    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    ikiT said:
    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones


    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
    I was just listing the 69 current Joneses.
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Poncier said:
    ikiT said:
    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones


    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
    I was just listing the 69 current Joneses.
    How many Joneses was that again? 


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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    & who employs him as well... 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Yep.
    The old John Henry sleight of hand.
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    edited December 2022
    Poncier said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Yep.
    The old John Henry sleight of hand.

    On boston.com too, as opposed to behind the Globe's paywall.   :D
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.


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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    To seeing the PTAPE?
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    Hahah
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    To seeing the PTAPE?
    I legit lol’ed
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