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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,480
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    probably ought to change the title of this thread, though.
    You'll be 200 by the time the drought reaches Cowboy level.
    if you’re going to keep going to that well, I will too….

    Brady was a system QB. Give me Aikman. :lol:
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    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    edited October 2023
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    probably ought to change the title of this thread, though.
    You'll be 200 by the time the drought reaches Cowboy level.
    if you’re going to keep going to that well, I will too….

    Brady was a system QB. Give me Aikman. :lol:
    You got him. Only 3 titles and pedestrian numbers compared to 7 titles and just about every passing record imaginable. You can have your Ache Man.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
    A: They wore those uni's once already this season, week 2 against Miami. (and looked spectacular).
    2. The lowly teams were actually the early 90's. First half of decade prior to arrivals of Parcells and then Bledsoe.
    1990: 1-15
    1991: 6-10
    1992: 2-14
    1993: 5-11 (first year for Parcells, Bledsoe and the blue uniforms)
    Since then, only 4 losing seasons out of the next 29. (this will make it 5 of 30).
    As Merkin Baller pointed out, the 80's Patriots were pretty good, a lot of the late 70's talent left over to start the decade (that team should have won a Superb Owl, thank you for nothing Ben Dreith).
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    edited October 2023
    Poncier said:
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
    A: They wore those uni's once already this season, week 2 against Miami. (and looked spectacular).
    2. The lowly teams were actually the early 90's. First half of decade prior to arrivals of Parcells and then Bledsoe.
    1990: 1-15
    1991: 6-10
    1992: 2-14
    1993: 5-11 (first year for Parcells, Bledsoe and the blue uniforms)
    Since then, only 4 losing seasons out of the next 29. (this will make it 5 of 30).
    As Merkin Baller pointed out, the 80's Patriots were pretty good, a lot of the late 70's talent left over to start the decade (that team should have won a Superb Owl, thank you for nothing Ben Dreith).
    Take it a step further... from 1974 - 1988 they had 2 seasons below .500. 

    The myth that they were bottom feeders for decades before Parcells arrived is just that, a myth. It was literally 4 seasons of being the bottom of the barrel.  
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    Poncier said:
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
    A: They wore those uni's once already this season, week 2 against Miami. (and looked spectacular).
    2. The lowly teams were actually the early 90's. First half of decade prior to arrivals of Parcells and then Bledsoe.
    1990: 1-15
    1991: 6-10
    1992: 2-14
    1993: 5-11 (first year for Parcells, Bledsoe and the blue uniforms)
    Since then, only 4 losing seasons out of the next 29. (this will make it 5 of 30).
    As Merkin Baller pointed out, the 80's Patriots were pretty good, a lot of the late 70's talent left over to start the decade (that team should have won a Superb Owl, thank you for nothing Ben Dreith).
    Take it a step further... from 1974 - 1988 they had 2 seasons below .500. 

    The myth that they were bottom feeders for decades before Parcells arrived is just that, a myth. It was literally 4 seasons of being the bottom of the barrel.  
    Didn’t mean to side track the thread…the most important thing is that they are bottom feeders now .
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    Poncier said:
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
    A: They wore those uni's once already this season, week 2 against Miami. (and looked spectacular).
    2. The lowly teams were actually the early 90's. First half of decade prior to arrivals of Parcells and then Bledsoe.
    1990: 1-15
    1991: 6-10
    1992: 2-14
    1993: 5-11 (first year for Parcells, Bledsoe and the blue uniforms)
    Since then, only 4 losing seasons out of the next 29. (this will make it 5 of 30).
    As Merkin Baller pointed out, the 80's Patriots were pretty good, a lot of the late 70's talent left over to start the decade (that team should have won a Superb Owl, thank you for nothing Ben Dreith).
    Take it a step further... from 1974 - 1988 they had 2 seasons below .500. 

    The myth that they were bottom feeders for decades before Parcells arrived is just that, a myth. It was literally 4 seasons of being the bottom of the barrel.  
    Didn’t mean to side track the thread…the most important thing is that they are bottom feeders now .
    Tank for Caleb. (there's no good rhyme for this player)
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    Poncier said:
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    The Patriots should go back to the red uniforms and helmets from the 1980’s because their team is almost identical to those lowly 80’s teams.
    Fun fact: between 1980 & 1989 they only had 2 seasons where they finished below .500. In 7 of those 10 years they finished no worse than tied for 2nd in the division.

    They weren't world beaters by any means, but they weren't the dregs of the league either, they were middle of the pack or better. 
    A: They wore those uni's once already this season, week 2 against Miami. (and looked spectacular).
    2. The lowly teams were actually the early 90's. First half of decade prior to arrivals of Parcells and then Bledsoe.
    1990: 1-15
    1991: 6-10
    1992: 2-14
    1993: 5-11 (first year for Parcells, Bledsoe and the blue uniforms)
    Since then, only 4 losing seasons out of the next 29. (this will make it 5 of 30).
    As Merkin Baller pointed out, the 80's Patriots were pretty good, a lot of the late 70's talent left over to start the decade (that team should have won a Superb Owl, thank you for nothing Ben Dreith).
    Take it a step further... from 1974 - 1988 they had 2 seasons below .500. 

    The myth that they were bottom feeders for decades before Parcells arrived is just that, a myth. It was literally 4 seasons of being the bottom of the barrel.  
    Didn’t mean to side track the thread…the most important thing is that they are bottom feeders now .
    That's the direction they seem to be headed. 
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    They will be bottom feeders about as long as the Detroit Lions are contenders
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    You can be certain your role as starting qb is probably over when they pull you for the final drive and throw in the back up cold. 😂
    I don’t know if I have ever seen anything like that. 

    Sure appears like a lot of ppl have fallen off the old Pats bandwagon, don’t see much merch anymore. Good, the true fans are still here. Big changes coming. 
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    They were better w/ Patricia as OC. 

    Go figure. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,629
    Jones looked the he was in shock after his last drive....like he was gonna barf all over.  No wonder they pulled him.  
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    edited November 2023
    That throw on the pick was brutal.
    I mean just brutal.
    You have your very tall TE behind the defense and you throw it low and short. WTF was he thinking/doing? You just lob a high ball in the end zone and it's an easy TD. Even Tony Eason or Hugh Millen could have made that throw.
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    Mac n cheese is well past his shelf life. Time to shit can 'em.
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    Mr. Jones and me
    Staring at the video
    When I look at the television, I want to see me
    Staring right back at me
    We all wanna be big stars

    Only thing Mac and I have in common is we both aren’t going to be big stars lol
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    Mac n Cheese needs to be sent to the locker room. Hang up the bread crumbs because you're toast. God awful.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    Ridiculously stupid nickname aside, I agree.
    The guy is just shell shocked and can't compete.
    Zappe really no better.
    They better finish 2-15 and get either Williams or Harrison Jr.
    Do not, I repeat, DO NOT beat the Jets in week 18.
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    Poncier said:
    Ridiculously stupid nickname aside, I agree.
    The guy is just shell shocked and can't compete.
    Zappe really no better.
    They better finish 2-15 and get either Williams or Harrison Jr.
    Do not, I repeat, DO NOT beat the Jets in week 18.
    Maybe they can forfeit one of those wins and go 1-16. Embarrassing.
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    Brady would be winning his 8th SB with this defence, from the couch like Flacco. Lol. 
    With all the records they set in the glory years, it’s really something to do something no team has done since 1938. 

    Anyone think they score any points agains Pittsburgh? They might win, but it’ll be because Trubisky throw 2 pick-sixes in a 14-10 Pats win. 

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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    Stupid bastards can't even tank right.
    Looks like we'll be drafting an interior lineman in the first round.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    Poncier said:
    Stupid bastards can't even tank right.
    Looks like we'll be drafting an interior lineman in the first round.

    As long as they are in the top 3, they should be OK.

    That Jets game might be a big one
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    edited December 2023
    People complain when they lose, they complain when they win... it's almost like people are going to complain no matter what happens. F that... I'll never get tired of Belichick owning Mike Tomlin. 

    & F tanking. Pittsburgh had a former #2 OAL pick @ QB last night and how did that work out for them? 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,970
    edited December 2023
    Pburg lost twice in a row AT HOME to two of the shittiest teams in the NFL. It has to be time for Tomlin to go.

    And a hail mary on 4th and 2 with that much time left? What the fuck?
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228

    And a hail mary on 4th and 2 with that much time left? What the fuck?
    That play call was dumb.
    You're down 3, pick up the first down and you have 2 minutes to get like another 20 yards to tie the game.

    I mean at 3rd and 2, they should have just run the ball. You'll hit the 2 minute warning either way, with a either first down or 4th and short with time to figure out the next play.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,480
    even at the time, I thought Tomlin should have taken a chip shot FG to get within “one score”, prior to a failed 4th down attempt.

    and, as much as I hate to agree with the juggler, he’s right when he says ONLY the eagles seem to know how to execute the tush push.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,747
    People complain when they lose, they complain when they win... it's almost like people are going to complain no matter what happens. F that... I'll never get tired of Belichick owning Mike Tomlin. 

    & F tanking. Pittsburgh had a former #2 OAL pick @ QB last night and how did that work out for them? 
    I don't know when fans will realize that players are never going to tank.  Most guys are playing for their next contract that will possibly be on another team.  You think they give a shit about the draft pick next year and the team being good in 5 years???  Not a chance.  Having said all that, great win for the Pats!!  Bears with a nice lead for the #1 pick!!
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    Zappe looked decent for a half, then reality set in. 
    This defence is special, but the offence is putrid. Use the 2024 draft on the offence. Find a QB, find some receivers, get some O-linemen. 

    If they hit on 2 out of 3 of those, this could be a quick rebuild.  Most of the NFL is pretty mediocre. 

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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,228
    The defense is missing it's 2 best players (Judon & Gonzalez) and still playing at a high level.
    The draft focus has to be heavily tilted to the offense. They need just about everything on that side of the ball.
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    Get zeppolie some receivers, an O line that will give him a little more time to throw or open holes for a running game to keep the D honest and the Pats would be just fine. Zepps got zip on the ball and can scramble but needs to learn to throw it away instead of throwing a pick. Tall order, I know, particularly with injuries. Oh, and a kicker. Need one of them too.
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