PJ to Headline Woodstock 50th Anniversary??

cp3iverson

Major festivals are no longer for the generation that grew up with alternative.  Nor should they be.  If you’re targeting people in their 30s and 40s you’re not going to sell 100,000 tickets every year. Look at the lineups eight years ago for Coachella or ACL and compare it to now.  Strikingly different.  Id say alternative rock had a nice long run of 20+ years of great festival lineups.  Now it’s dominated by pop and hip hop which is fine too but no one is going to watch a Pavement or At the Drive In reunion at Coachella anymore.  That’s sad but it is what it is.  We got old

I cant see this happening.  Im sure Jay z and others will drop out.  At least Woodstock 94 was killer

pjl44

cp3iverson said:

Major festivals are no longer for the generation that grew up with alternative.  Nor should they be.  If you’re targeting people in their 30s and 40s you’re not going to sell 100,000 tickets every year. Look at the lineups eight years ago for Coachella or ACL and compare it to now.  Strikingly different.  Id say alternative rock had a nice long run of 20+ years of great festival lineups.  Now it’s dominated by pop and hip hop which is fine too but no one is going to watch a Pavement or At the Drive In reunion at Coachella anymore.  That’s sad but it is what it is.  We got old

I cant see this happening.  Im sure Jay z and others will drop out.  At least Woodstock 94 was killer

There are so many now. I'm really curious how these things all sell. When does it peak?

For example, I get the sense Boston Calling is having a rough time this year. First, early bird tix didn't sell out. So they extended it and still didn't. A few weeks later I get a survey invite as a past attendee - why am I not going, what I think of the lineup, who my favorite bands are, etc. Then last week I get invited to a focus group that's happening Wednesday to talk about "my experiences." Holy shit, don't you guys have to put on a 3-day festival in a month? And I've only been to 2 of those things!

given2fly23

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

given2fly23 said:

Is this being run by billy McFarland and ja rule?

If it isn't yet, it will be soon. Roll cameras.

igotid88

Who has money to go to all these festivals I wonder? They should go back to traveling festivals

angry_skull

Investors are bailing on Woodstock 50. 

cp3iverson

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

igotid88

cp3iverson said:

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

I saw it on PPV. My sister went with her friends. They didn't have tickets

SandyRavage

pjl44 said:

cp3iverson said:

Major festivals are no longer for the generation that grew up with alternative.  Nor should they be.  If you’re targeting people in their 30s and 40s you’re not going to sell 100,000 tickets every year. Look at the lineups eight years ago for Coachella or ACL and compare it to now.  Strikingly different.  Id say alternative rock had a nice long run of 20+ years of great festival lineups.  Now it’s dominated by pop and hip hop which is fine too but no one is going to watch a Pavement or At the Drive In reunion at Coachella anymore.  That’s sad but it is what it is.  We got old

I cant see this happening.  Im sure Jay z and others will drop out.  At least Woodstock 94 was killer

There are so many now. I'm really curious how these things all sell. When does it peak?

For example, I get the sense Boston Calling is having a rough time this year. First, early bird tix didn't sell out. So they extended it and still didn't. A few weeks later I get a survey invite as a past attendee - why am I not going, what I think of the lineup, who my favorite bands are, etc. Then last week I get invited to a focus group that's happening Wednesday to talk about "my experiences." Holy shit, don't you guys have to put on a 3-day festival in a month? And I've only been to 2 of those things!

As  a person who has also been to that festival, BC has had a lack of talent compared to years passed. 2017 especially. Flatbush Zombies, Run The Jewels, Converge, Weezer, and Tool all in the same day.. probably one of the greatest days i've had at a festival ever. As has already been mentioned, most of those types of acts are now dominated by pop and rap stalwarts in the industry.

demetrios

angry_skull said:

Investors are bailing on Woodstock 50. 

Not shocking as that lineup is horrifying!

cp3iverson said:

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

I was able to watch ALOT of Woodstock '94 performances on my old Sears TV in black & white. It could scrabble PPV events with my cable subscription. Couldn't do it though for Woodstock '99.

tempo_n_groove

cp3iverson said:

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

All of those bands mentioned above were at their peak when they did this.  CSN, Cocker, Dylan, Santana and Cliff are the only retros of that list.

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

So pretty much what everyone listens to today and not from 25 years ago.

given2fly23

tempo_n_groove said:

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

Holy crap that list makes me feel way out of it. To get me to care about something like this or actually attend, I would want to see:

Pearl Jam
Nine Inch Nails
QOTSA
Radiohead
Oasis reunion
RATM reunion
Tool
U2
-----------
Lumineers
Killers
Reignwolf
Royal Blood
Dermot Kennedy
Ruston Kelly

@tempo_n_groove listed, and I'm way out of it. 

tempo_n_groove

given2fly23 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

Holy crap that list makes me feel way out of it. To get me to care about something like this or actually attend, I would want to see:

Pearl Jam
Nine Inch Nails
QOTSA
Radiohead
Oasis reunion
RATM reunion
Tool
U2
-----------
Lumineers
Killers
Reignwolf
Royal Blood
Dermot Kennedy
Ruston Kelly

@tempo_n_groove listed, and I'm way out of it. 

The bottom tier could happen, the top?  Not so much.

given2fly23

tempo_n_groove said:

given2fly23 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

Holy crap that list makes me feel way out of it. To get me to care about something like this or actually attend, I would want to see:

Pearl Jam
Nine Inch Nails
QOTSA
Radiohead
Oasis reunion
RATM reunion
Tool
U2
-----------
Lumineers
Killers
Reignwolf
Royal Blood
Dermot Kennedy
Ruston Kelly

@tempo_n_groove listed, and I'm way out of it. 

The bottom tier could happen, the top?  Not so much.

My comment got cut off at the bottom, but yeah, I had written that the second tier is being treated as headliners. Combine that with what you wrote people listen to these days, and I'm way out of the target audience here. 

cp3iverson

tempo_n_groove said:

cp3iverson said:

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

All of those bands mentioned above were at their peak when they did this.  CSN, Cocker, Dylan, Santana and Cliff are the only retros of that list.

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

So pretty much what everyone listens to today and not from 25 years ago.

Yep. Thats why they’ve passed us by lol.  I think if we all liked the Woodstock 50 lineup most kids would hate it

CSN, Cocker, Santana, etc were all probably younger than current PJ at Woodstock 94

MayDay10

In order to charge $450 a ticket and get 100K people +, I think they would need to have a wide variety to draw everyone in with 'must see' type of draws that makes it a must see from numerous demographics.

Like someone mentioned, RATM reunion, PJ, Phish, Tool, Lady Gaga, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, DMB, Drake, Taylor Swift, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, Post Malone, Ariene Grande, some big Country Act.... etc.

I just dont think you can get all these acts under one roof like they could in 1994 and 1999.  

tempo_n_groove

MayDay10 said:

In order to charge $450 a ticket and get 100K people +, I think they would need to have a wide variety to draw everyone in with 'must see' type of draws that makes it a must see from numerous demographics.

Like someone mentioned, RATM reunion, PJ, Phish, Tool, Lady Gaga, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, DMB, Drake, Taylor Swift, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, Post Malone, Ariene Grande, some big Country Act.... etc.

I just dont think you can get all these acts under one roof like they could in 1994 and 1999.  

Thank Live Nation for that then.

cp3iverson

I would like to commend ACL for landing GNR and The Cure for this year.  

That is tempting.  

RatherStarved

100 Pacer said:

https://youtu.be/U4803un1nag

Well, there’s always Waynestock.  

PSUS2H

cp3iverson said:

I would like to commend ACL for landing GNR and The Cure for this year.  

That is tempting.  

Damn, I went last year for Metallica.  It was cool, but fkn overwhelming, especially after being at super chill Ohana Fest a few weeks before. 

Lerxst1992

tempo_n_groove said:

cp3iverson said:

Anyone go to this??  We had PPV so we watched it all weekend for three days straight.  Amazing festival

Woodstock 94 —-  Peter Gabriel, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, NIN, Green Day, Blind Melon, Metallica, LiVE, Porno for Pyros, Cypress Hill, Melissa Etheridge, Candlebox, Kings X, James, The Band, Sheryl Crow, Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Rollins Band, Crosby Stills & Nash, The Cranberries, Joe Cocker, Bob Dylan, Santana, Jimmy Cliff, Arrested Development, about twenty more bands....

All of those bands mentioned above were at their peak when they did this.  CSN, Cocker, Dylan, Santana and Cliff are the only retros of that list.

Something equivalent for that to happen this day and age would need Drake, Migos, Cardi B, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, Meek Mill, Ariana Grande, A boogie, J Cole, Maroon 5, Billie Ellish and some country acts to make it huge...

So pretty much what everyone listens to today and not from 25 years ago.

When you have the younger generation turn their backs on guitar rock that inspired people for fifty years before you, you are left with festivals that cant sell tickets, festivals that get canceled and scary potential lineups like that one above

evenflow82

That line up above is dreadful, such is the times we live in though. My opinion too, obviously. 

igotid88

Back on. 

Zod

Sort of?  It's not cancelled, but it completely lacks funding.... seems like kind of of a train wreck?

darwinstheory

Waynestock had better organization than this shitshow. Maybe Aerosmith will roll up last second in a limo. 

cp3iverson

darwinstheory said:

Waynestock had better organization than this shitshow. Maybe Aerosmith will roll up last second in a limo. 

RatherStarved

One band and one band only can save this festival...

mrk2

Hopefully Lang has a camera crew following him around. Fyrefest 2 in the making.

bootlegger10

Why would anyone buy tickets to this?  The festival market is saturated.  No reason to take the risk.

on2legs

I’m only interested in this if Pearl Jam shows up.  Wouldn’t bother for any other band. 

Get_Right

Oppenheimer stepped in to provide financing.  Guessing there are a bunch of hippie millionaires that want this to happen. Personally, I am not interested in attending.