US Christian Missionary endanger the lives of inhabitants on isolated Indian island

Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.  I do think that it was an idiotic move to go there against warnings, but the people throwing other missionaries bad people are off base.  Missionaries as a whole do a lot more good than bad in regards to helping the poor and starving in many places around the world.  Check out the Christian Relief Fund.  

Could it be that this kind of idiocy is something removed from the organisation you posted?

tbergs

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Ledbetterman10

What's with this thread's title? 

Spiritual_Chaos

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Because he's falling back into the right-winged "I'm angry at progress" corner instinctively.

PJPOWER

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Why make the statement that he just did?  Why does everything have to come down to the left or the right?

Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Why make the statement that he just did?  Why does everything have to come down to the left or the right?

Because people were comparing the RIGHTS frenzy over the caravan to this situation?

PJPOWER

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Because he's falling back into the right-winged "I'm angry at progress" corner instinctively.

Yeah, that’s it.  Hyuk hyuk hyuk

Gern Blansten

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Why make the statement that he just did?  Why does everything have to come down to the left or the right?

Because the right has a real problem with hypocrisy.

Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Because he's falling back into the right-winged "I'm angry at progress" corner instinctively.

Yeah, that’s it.  Hyuk hyuk hyuk

Yep.

Gern Blansten

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

PJPOWER

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Why make the statement that he just did?  Why does everything have to come down to the left or the right?

Because the right has a real problem with hypocrisy.

Yawn...pretty sure there are plenty examples of left and right wing hypocrisy in the world today.  Tons on the AMT alone.  

Spiritual_Chaos

Gern Blansten said:

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

An arrow pierced his Bible. 

Someone shooting arrows at me - I BETTER TELL THEM MORE ABOUT HOW BEING GAY IS A SIN AND ABOUT ALL THE DINOSAURS LIVING 4000 YEARS AGO!

PJPOWER

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Because he's falling back into the right-winged "I'm angry at progress" corner instinctively.

Yeah, that’s it.  Hyuk hyuk hyuk

Yep.

Hyuk hyuk hyuk

PJPOWER

Gern Blansten said:

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

Does anyone around here, right or left, disagree with this?  I know some may see him as a martyr, but even the Bible says people should obey the “law of the land”.  He completely disregarded the law and suffered the consequences of doing so, just like the “asylum seekers” that ate a rubber bullet in the process of breaking the law.

HughFreakingDillon

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

tbergs said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The tribe just stood their ground....the right should be proud of that

If that’s the case, then the left should be angry about that.

There's nothing wrong with standing your ground when it's justifiable.  

I agree...

Then why make the statement you just did? Is "the left" angry about a justifiable stand your ground incident I am blanking on here?

Why make the statement that he just did?  Why does everything have to come down to the left or the right?

Because the right has a real problem with hypocrisy.

Yawn...pretty sure there are plenty examples of left and right wing hypocrisy in the world today.  Tons on the AMT alone.  

one from today. Top dems refuse to donate to or fundraise for Gillbrand after they see her as responsible for the ousting of Al Franken:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/26/al-franken-kirsten-gillibrand-2020-1014697

Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

Does anyone around here, right or left, disagree with this?  I know some may see him as a martyr, but even the Bible says people should obey the “law of the land”.  He completely disregarded the law and suffered the consequences of doing so, just like the “asylum seekers” that ate a rubber bullet in the process of breaking the law.

Why do you put asylum seekers in quotation?

PJPOWER

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

Does anyone around here, right or left, disagree with this?  I know some may see him as a martyr, but even the Bible says people should obey the “law of the land”.  He completely disregarded the law and suffered the consequences of doing so, just like the “asylum seekers” that ate a rubber bullet in the process of breaking the law.

Why do you put asylum seekers in quotation?

Just to annoy you mainly...glad you noticed. /s. But seriously, there is another thread for that rabbit hole of a topic.

Bentleyspop

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said: li

The guy went to the island the day before he was killed correct?  He got shot that day as well. 

Dude was an idiot.  He thought god was going to protect him and Darwin took over.

An arrow pierced his Bible. 

Someone shooting arrows at me - I BETTER TELL THEM MORE ABOUT HOW BEING GAY IS A SIN AND ABOUT ALL THE DINOSAURS LIVING 4000 YEARS AGO!

You forgot .... abortion bad death penalty good

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

my2hands said:

This is a perfect example of "shit white people do"... dude paddled up with a bible & cross lol

Lol, you managed to be a bigot and make a racist statement. I’m glad we get to read everyone’s real thoughts on immigration. 

In what way do you think responses to this story reflect posters’ opinions on immigration, given that it is about a completely different issue? 

It’s not different in the least. Someone was attempting to go to a land. They weren’t welcome. The people there believed that the alien may have come to take over their way of life or to harm them or put stress on their people. They made sure it didn’t happen. You all (most) believe they were right in what they did.

Are you high? 

No, sorry I don’t partake. Maybe I should so I can block out the hypocrisy I see from all of us. I have to pass on it though. 

There is no hypocrisy on display here in this thread. Your analogy was poorly constructed.

This idiot wasn’t even looking to immigrate so the scenarios can’t even be compared for one. And if he was... well then the two situations still aren’t comparable. At all.

Oh, they are. Just like saying the Indians should have kept the Europeans out of North America. 

No.

You're being silly now.

For the record (and without a doubt), if the Indians had known what was ahead for them... they should have met the European invasion with as much force as they could muster. Saying this is not suggesting I am apologizing for my existence- I'm not.

Is that why we’re sending troops to the border? For what might be???? 

I am assuming so. You’re worried that a caravan of broken Honduran people fleeing the violence of their home country is the first step in the decimation of the US people.

No?

You all seem to be the ones against immigration. I was just pointing out hypocrisy. 

No you are not pointing out hypocrisy -- you show your own problems with connecting dots and thinking out analogys.

No, I can connect the dots that some people refuse to acknowledge. Read what’s written. 

the caravan is not an invasion. 
most here are not against legal immigration or claiming asylum
the christian was SEEN by the inhabitants of the island as an invasion, and was dealt with accordingly. and whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, his intent is irrelevant to whether he was actually an invader or not. he most likely did not intend to infect them with bacteria we are immune to. but that's what he very likely could have done. 
they didn't know he was christian. they don't fucking know what a christian even is. I would have the same non-feelings towards the guy had he been an ahtiest going there to peddle his Scientific ways. 

So you say the caravan is not an invasion but this guy was...I’m just trying to understand how these are different.  Not being a smart ass, but what makes it different for someone to go to that island vs enter another country illegally? 

Is it really just about protecting an ancient tribe? Cause I guess that’s the only difference I see and why it should be handled differently. They don’t have the means to handle the situation any different then they do without risking their lives and their entire way of life. Countries, like the US, do. Otherwise it is the exact same situation, but the way it should be handled can be different. Is that correct?

america has all the information (see: common sense) to know the caravan is not an invasion. the tribe do not. THAT is the difference. 

I'm not sure how one can say "it is the exact same situation except for all of the determining factors". because that's what you are saying here. 

No I don’t think I’m saying that at all. A person entering another persons land. Is the same situation. All the other things are why the reactions are different.

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

LongestRoad said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

LongestRoad said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

my2hands said:

This is a perfect example of "shit white people do"... dude paddled up with a bible & cross lol

Lol, you managed to be a bigot and make a racist statement. I’m glad we get to read everyone’s real thoughts on immigration. 

In what way do you think responses to this story reflect posters’ opinions on immigration, given that it is about a completely different issue? 

It’s not different in the least. Someone was attempting to go to a land. They weren’t welcome. The people there believed that the alien may have come to take over their way of life or to harm them or put stress on their people. They made sure it didn’t happen. You all (most) believe they were right in what they did.

Are you high? 

No, sorry I don’t partake. Maybe I should so I can block out the hypocrisy I see from all of us. I have to pass on it though. 

There is no hypocrisy on display here in this thread. Your analogy was poorly constructed.

This idiot wasn’t even looking to immigrate so the scenarios can’t even be compared for one. And if he was... well then the two situations still aren’t comparable. At all.

Oh, they are. Just like saying the Indians should have kept the Europeans out of North America. 

No.

You're being silly now.

For the record (and without a doubt), if the Indians had known what was ahead for them... they should have met the European invasion with as much force as they could muster. Saying this is not suggesting I am apologizing for my existence- I'm not.

Is that why we’re sending troops to the border? For what might be???? 

I am assuming so. You’re worried that a caravan of broken Honduran people fleeing the violence of their home country is the first step in the decimation of the US people.

No?

You all seem to be the ones against immigration. I was just pointing out hypocrisy. 

No you are not pointing out hypocrisy -- you show your own problems with connecting dots and thinking out analogys.

No, I can connect the dots that some people refuse to acknowledge. Read what’s written. 

the caravan is not an invasion. 
most here are not against legal immigration or claiming asylum
the christian was SEEN by the inhabitants of the island as an invasion, and was dealt with accordingly. and whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, his intent is irrelevant to whether he was actually an invader or not. he most likely did not intend to infect them with bacteria we are immune to. but that's what he very likely could have done. 
they didn't know he was christian. they don't fucking know what a christian even is. I would have the same non-feelings towards the guy had he been an ahtiest going there to peddle his Scientific ways. 

So you say the caravan is not an invasion but this guy was...I’m just trying to understand how these are different.  Not being a smart ass, but what makes it different for someone to go to that island vs enter another country illegally? 

Is it really just about protecting an ancient tribe? Cause I guess that’s the only difference I see and why it should be handled differently. They don’t have the means to handle the situation any different then they do without risking their lives and their entire way of life. Countries, like the US, do. Otherwise it is the exact same situation, but the way it should be handled can be different. Is that correct?

america has all the information (see: common sense) to know the caravan is not an invasion. the tribe do not. THAT is the difference. 

I'm not sure how one can say "it is the exact same situation except for all of the determining factors". because that's what you are saying here. 

No I don’t think I’m saying that at all. A person entering another persons land. Is the same situation. All the other things are why the reactions are different.

Okey, well then me taking the train from Gothenburg and down to Copenhagen is the same situation.