Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
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Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So according to the OP’s subsequent posts, the repube farm owner should be jailed and his business shuttered, right? Further, I don’t recall the OP starting a thread bemoaning illegal immigration or expressing concern for the victim until the victim was found dead and allegedly killed by someone here illegally. Why is that? I asked and didn’t get an answer. It makes me wonder though how the OP feels about Mollie’s “I hate white people” tweet and which side he falls on in the context of her tweet and the reaction it elicited on alt-right websites like The Daily Stormer? I won’t link it because I won’t help promote such complete garbage but feel free to google it. And I really would like the OP to explain what his motivation was, since he waited until she was found dead, and explain it. Otherwise, the OP should stop complaining about, “being misunderstood.” I expect a 3-5 word response, which proves the OP “won” or a stupid meme.
I thought there was uncertainty as to whether he was illegal. Not that this should matter to the Tibbets family. Not that anyone in these arguments really cares about them, anyway.
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I thought there was uncertainty as to whether he was illegal. Not that this should matter to the Tibbets family. Not that anyone in these arguments really cares about them, anyway.
Obviously, those close to the family would care hugely, those who know them more causally would probably have some strong feelings and their community in general would feel closer to the situation but, yeah, outside that it's just the makings of another true crime story. And people really eat that stuff up. We can't keep all those mass market true crimes in books at my wife's store in stock. Ann Rule especially.
Now, true or not, add to one of those stories the word "alien", modifying that work with the highly flammable adjective "illegal", and you have spontaneous combustion. It's an instant seller before the first chapter is done. And for those who get agitated by even the mere suggestion of "illegal aliens going on a killing spree", it becomes a catalyst and excuse for even more hate. Suddenly, using the credit card to donate to The Wall becomes an impulse buy. Add to that, you know the hard core outliers want to start planning a confrontation.
We are at the peak of social drama. The masses are erupting in either tears and clenched fists.
Most strange of all: for most of us it's all just words and images on an electronic device. I've known only known a few murdered people. The most "dramatic" was a death by house being set on fire. It made the 6 o'clock news splash. But knowing the person, all of the sudden the news is irrelevant. It gives one some perspective, that's for darned sure.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I do not know the accused background ... but honestly what makes a person want to kill, especially for absolutely no reason. This seems like a trait that primarily affects humans ...
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I do not know the accused background ... but honestly what makes a person want to kill, especially for absolutely no reason. This seems like a trait that primarily affects humans ...
Seems I've read that some primates besides humans are occasionally violent for no reason like some humans are. Outside of primates though, I can't think of any.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
Isn't the actual issue that people (men mainly) murder.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
And call me when one of these national abduction/missing/murder stories doesnt involve a white girl. Ever seen one involving a black girl, or a guy for that matter?
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Has he actually admitted to fearing white genocide (I honestly don't know)?
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Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,305
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Has he actually admitted to fearing white genocide (I honestly don't know)?
Come on man. Go back and read Unsung’s post history before commenting on any more of his threads.
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.
I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.
I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
Why?
Because:
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.
I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?
This flew over your head? Really?
No I just dislike your argument. Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about.
So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? That's effed.
Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.
I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
What actual discussion could be had on this topic?? Seriously. There are already threads for every possible angle to this OP, aside from the thread that would be titled 'Stoking the fire of xenophobia for conservative votes'.
I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever
I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever
I don't doubt yours was a cool dude, but I've been violently attacked by 3 times as many German Shepherds as humans.
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]
National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.
while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever
I don't doubt yours was a cool dude, but I've been violently attacked by 3 times as many German Shepherds as humans.
You meet a German Shepard who attack you in the morning, you've met a German Shepard who attacked you.
You meet German Shepards who attack you all day...
:P
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]
National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.
while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
There’s a thing called the wire. And it’s not the HBO show set in Baltimore. It’s a news aggregate service that transmits a story to every newsroom in America, whether radio, tv or newsprint. If a story makes the wire, there’s a good chance most of America hears about it. Maybe not the day it happens but within the week. The Sunday paper is full of “filler.”
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That's effed.
White mass murderer = troubled
And call me when one of these national abduction/missing/murder stories doesnt involve a white girl. Ever seen one involving a black girl, or a guy for that matter?
Or do you need to combine it with "immigrant" for it to be "an animal" for some people?
Context is everything.
I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
Because:
There are already threads for every possible angle to this OP, aside from the thread that would be titled 'Stoking the fire of xenophobia for conservative votes'.
I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever
You meet German Shepards who attack you all day...
:P
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