Mollie Tibbetts
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I disagree we'd still have a thread. where are all the other threads of all people killed in america? why is it more important than every other murder that happens every minute in america? just because it was an illegal immigrant? so because one illegal immigrant kills a citizen, THAT'S the reason you need immigration reform? immigration reform in the US was needed long before this happened, and for many other reasons other than "bad hombres".cincybearcat said:
This is still an important story. Regardless of the motives. Just like other threads where others here have obvious motives to forward their agenda. I’m just getting sick and tired of people always playing for their team here....HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
This is a terrible tragedy that highlight the issue we have in America with guys thinking they can do creepy stuff and it’s ok and with immigration (in this case). Doesn’t mean all illegal immigrants are bad BUT it certainly highlights that some are and we need immigration reform fast. True reform.
and I feel awful for this girl’s parents, can’t even imagine.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread. It would have been started by one if the idiots attacking the OP and the OP would be brushing off the murder and wishing that the girl had been packing heat. You are all way to predictable anymore.
what team am I playing for exactly?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Again, not related whatsoever to this thread...thanks for your attempt at derailing though...Maybe start a new thread if the Maryland crab markets are important to you.Halifax2TheMax said:
The reality is that the jobless living in mom's basement in Maryland aren't filling the jobs. why? Because they don't pay enough to get out of the basement? Why? Because consumers will stop buying crab meat if you raise labor rates. So, keep living in your fantasy world where every able bodied American who should work will. I thought you Rs were for "free markets," letting the market decide? Did I say Illegal workers? What kind of restrictions on migrant labor and business, as it relates to migrant labor/immigration do you support?PJPOWER said:
Or maybe the jobless that live a little closer, like in Maryland, could get out of the basement and fill the jobs? Regardless, hiring illegal immigrants is not the answer. I have no issue with migrants with visas and do not necessarily support crazy strict regulations on migrant labors...So this was a pretty bad example on your part.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, with migrant labor. Team Trump Treason tightened the rules and made the process more difficult for migrant labors from south of the border to come and work legally. As such, they have a labor shortage. So, instead of the jobs being filled by Americans, who don't want to do the work for the wages provided, because consumers won't pay the price for crab meat if you jacked labor rates, lets close down and put more people out of work (isn't that the argument against a "living wage," that consumers won't pay and businesses will fail and unemployment will go up?). Send your friends' kids to Maryland, if they want to leave the basement that is.PJPOWER said:
Does the Maryland crab industry operate primarily with illegal employees? Once again, I’m sure there are some jobless people that would love the opportunity. If they cannot fill the spots with legal citizens, then they should not be in business.Halifax2TheMax said:PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
The Maryland crab industry is looking. Send them north.PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
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it actually wasn't halifax who brought up illegal immigration and americans who don't want to work.PJPOWER said:
Again, not related whatsoever to this thread...thanks for your attempt at derailing though...Maybe start a new thread if the Maryland crab markets are important to you.Halifax2TheMax said:
The reality is that the jobless living in mom's basement in Maryland aren't filling the jobs. why? Because they don't pay enough to get out of the basement? Why? Because consumers will stop buying crab meat if you raise labor rates. So, keep living in your fantasy world where every able bodied American who should work will. I thought you Rs were for "free markets," letting the market decide? Did I say Illegal workers? What kind of restrictions on migrant labor and business, as it relates to migrant labor/immigration do you support?PJPOWER said:
Or maybe the jobless that live a little closer, like in Maryland, could get out of the basement and fill the jobs? Regardless, hiring illegal immigrants is not the answer. I have no issue with migrants with visas and do not necessarily support crazy strict regulations on migrant labors...So this was a pretty bad example on your part.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, with migrant labor. Team Trump Treason tightened the rules and made the process more difficult for migrant labors from south of the border to come and work legally. As such, they have a labor shortage. So, instead of the jobs being filled by Americans, who don't want to do the work for the wages provided, because consumers won't pay the price for crab meat if you jacked labor rates, lets close down and put more people out of work (isn't that the argument against a "living wage," that consumers won't pay and businesses will fail and unemployment will go up?). Send your friends' kids to Maryland, if they want to leave the basement that is.PJPOWER said:
Does the Maryland crab industry operate primarily with illegal employees? Once again, I’m sure there are some jobless people that would love the opportunity. If they cannot fill the spots with legal citizens, then they should not be in business.Halifax2TheMax said:PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
The Maryland crab industry is looking. Send them north.PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
good old trump:"You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico. And you saw what happened to that incredible beautiful young woman. Should have never happened. Illegally in our country," he said."We've had a huge impact but the laws are so bad, the immigration laws are such a disgrace. We're getting it changed but we have to get more Republicans."By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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It's an important story. The man entered the US illegally, killing a US citizen. Why wouldn't that be a story? He is not the first illegal to murder...what's wrong with people wanting immigration reform?
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Exactly how this issue shouldn't be played out, but Trump controls the narrative along with his sideshow of cronies so we have a carnival show where people are led to believe there is only one way and one side. Yes, we have immigration problems, but goddamn it this isn't the way it should be addressed or handled. I fucking hate that piece of crap. He is destroying this country.HughFreakingDillon said:good old trump:"You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in very sadly from Mexico. And you saw what happened to that incredible beautiful young woman. Should have never happened. Illegally in our country," he said."We've had a huge impact but the laws are so bad, the immigration laws are such a disgrace. We're getting it changed but we have to get more Republicans."It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Its relevant in that a repube farmer hired the guy? Why? And its a fact that migrant and "illegals" have a lower crime rate than native born. But you know, lets focus on the "illegals." All that growth in Texas wouldn't be possible without "illegals." Who would build the houses and landscape the properties, cook the food and clean the kitchens? And maybe a native born, legal, white guy working on that repube's farm would have committed the crime? In which case, I doubt we'd have a thread about it.PJPOWER said:
Again, not related whatsoever to this thread...thanks for your attempt at derailing though...Maybe start a new thread if the Maryland crab markets are important to you.Halifax2TheMax said:
The reality is that the jobless living in mom's basement in Maryland aren't filling the jobs. why? Because they don't pay enough to get out of the basement? Why? Because consumers will stop buying crab meat if you raise labor rates. So, keep living in your fantasy world where every able bodied American who should work will. I thought you Rs were for "free markets," letting the market decide? Did I say Illegal workers? What kind of restrictions on migrant labor and business, as it relates to migrant labor/immigration do you support?PJPOWER said:
Or maybe the jobless that live a little closer, like in Maryland, could get out of the basement and fill the jobs? Regardless, hiring illegal immigrants is not the answer. I have no issue with migrants with visas and do not necessarily support crazy strict regulations on migrant labors...So this was a pretty bad example on your part.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, with migrant labor. Team Trump Treason tightened the rules and made the process more difficult for migrant labors from south of the border to come and work legally. As such, they have a labor shortage. So, instead of the jobs being filled by Americans, who don't want to do the work for the wages provided, because consumers won't pay the price for crab meat if you jacked labor rates, lets close down and put more people out of work (isn't that the argument against a "living wage," that consumers won't pay and businesses will fail and unemployment will go up?). Send your friends' kids to Maryland, if they want to leave the basement that is.PJPOWER said:
Does the Maryland crab industry operate primarily with illegal employees? Once again, I’m sure there are some jobless people that would love the opportunity. If they cannot fill the spots with legal citizens, then they should not be in business.Halifax2TheMax said:PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
The Maryland crab industry is looking. Send them north.PJPOWER said:
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Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
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now that I think about it, it's possible cincy is saying "white illegal immigrant". but to me it doesn't matter. I still think highlighting these ultra rare instances don't do any service.my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
Citizenship status doesn't have any impact on whether someone will commit murder or notBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Well, I knew who she was before there was a suspect. I'm in Minnesota, so maybe it was regional? Either way, though, I agree that the entire discussion would be different in terms of who was talking about it, how much talking there'd be, and how political it would have gotten.my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
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Agreed. I'm also in MN and one of the first things my co-worker mentioned to me yesterday was that they'd found her body and killer. No mention of his status as an illegal immigrant. This could end up getting politicized to the same extent that Jacob Wetterling was and how that started the whole predatory offender registry, but in this case it doesn't sound like the parents are pushing for anything and just want to grieve their loss. Politicians need to politic though.OnWis97 said:
Well, I knew who she was before there was a suspect. I'm in Minnesota, so maybe it was regional? Either way, though, I agree that the entire discussion would be different in terms of who was talking about it, how much talking there'd be, and how political it would have gotten.my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
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This girl missing has been a national story for some time.HughFreakingDillon said:
I disagree we'd still have a thread. where are all the other threads of all people killed in america? why is it more important than every other murder that happens every minute in america? just because it was an illegal immigrant? so because one illegal immigrant kills a citizen, THAT'S the reason you need immigration reform? immigration reform in the US was needed long before this happened, and for many other reasons other than "bad hombres".cincybearcat said:
This is still an important story. Regardless of the motives. Just like other threads where others here have obvious motives to forward their agenda. I’m just getting sick and tired of people always playing for their team here....HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
This is a terrible tragedy that highlight the issue we have in America with guys thinking they can do creepy stuff and it’s ok and with immigration (in this case). Doesn’t mean all illegal immigrants are bad BUT it certainly highlights that some are and we need immigration reform fast. True reform.
and I feel awful for this girl’s parents, can’t even imagine.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread. It would have been started by one if the idiots attacking the OP and the OP would be brushing off the murder and wishing that the girl had been packing heat. You are all way to predictable anymore.
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Now where the fuck did I say citizenship status has an impact on whether someone will commit murder?my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
Citizenship status doesn't have any impact on whether someone will commit murder or nothippiemom = goodness0 -
So - rape happens everyday, why did people highlight the Stanford rapist?my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
Citizenship status doesn't have any impact on whether someone will commit murder or not
its a story that hit the news long before she was found dead and long before we knew it was an illegal immigrant that killed her.hippiemom = goodness0 -
You’re missing the point:Halifax2TheMax said:
Its relevant in that a repube farmer hired the guy? Why? And its a fact that migrant and "illegals" have a lower crime rate than native born. But you know, lets focus on the "illegals." All that growth in Texas wouldn't be possible without "illegals." Who would build the houses and landscape the properties, cook the food and clean the kitchens? And maybe a native born, legal, white guy working on that repube's farm would have committed the crime? In which case, I doubt we'd have a thread about it.PJPOWER said:
Again, not related whatsoever to this thread...thanks for your attempt at derailing though...Maybe start a new thread if the Maryland crab markets are important to you.Halifax2TheMax said:
The reality is that the jobless living in mom's basement in Maryland aren't filling the jobs. why? Because they don't pay enough to get out of the basement? Why? Because consumers will stop buying crab meat if you raise labor rates. So, keep living in your fantasy world where every able bodied American who should work will. I thought you Rs were for "free markets," letting the market decide? Did I say Illegal workers? What kind of restrictions on migrant labor and business, as it relates to migrant labor/immigration do you support?PJPOWER said:
Or maybe the jobless that live a little closer, like in Maryland, could get out of the basement and fill the jobs? Regardless, hiring illegal immigrants is not the answer. I have no issue with migrants with visas and do not necessarily support crazy strict regulations on migrant labors...So this was a pretty bad example on your part.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, with migrant labor. Team Trump Treason tightened the rules and made the process more difficult for migrant labors from south of the border to come and work legally. As such, they have a labor shortage. So, instead of the jobs being filled by Americans, who don't want to do the work for the wages provided, because consumers won't pay the price for crab meat if you jacked labor rates, lets close down and put more people out of work (isn't that the argument against a "living wage," that consumers won't pay and businesses will fail and unemployment will go up?). Send your friends' kids to Maryland, if they want to leave the basement that is.PJPOWER said:
Does the Maryland crab industry operate primarily with illegal employees? Once again, I’m sure there are some jobless people that would love the opportunity. If they cannot fill the spots with legal citizens, then they should not be in business.Halifax2TheMax said:PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
The Maryland crab industry is looking. Send them north.PJPOWER said:
I’ve known plenty of high school and college students looking for suplimental income that would love these jobs that you speak of. Those that do not want to live with their parents, that is.unsung said:”Americans don’t want to do those jobs.”
“These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups. It simply identifies thousands of crimes that should not have occurred and thousands of victims that should not have been victimized because the perpetrator should not be here.”https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
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fair enough. it wasn't on my radar until the suspect was caught.cincybearcat said:
This girl missing has been a national story for some time.HughFreakingDillon said:
I disagree we'd still have a thread. where are all the other threads of all people killed in america? why is it more important than every other murder that happens every minute in america? just because it was an illegal immigrant? so because one illegal immigrant kills a citizen, THAT'S the reason you need immigration reform? immigration reform in the US was needed long before this happened, and for many other reasons other than "bad hombres".cincybearcat said:
This is still an important story. Regardless of the motives. Just like other threads where others here have obvious motives to forward their agenda. I’m just getting sick and tired of people always playing for their team here....HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
This is a terrible tragedy that highlight the issue we have in America with guys thinking they can do creepy stuff and it’s ok and with immigration (in this case). Doesn’t mean all illegal immigrants are bad BUT it certainly highlights that some are and we need immigration reform fast. True reform.
and I feel awful for this girl’s parents, can’t even imagine.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread. It would have been started by one if the idiots attacking the OP and the OP would be brushing off the murder and wishing that the girl had been packing heat. You are all way to predictable anymore.
what team am I playing for exactly?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
See nust about every news story linked in the gun thread. Happens to lots of people each day.... still people post them (and they should).my2hands said:
Lolcincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:
the reality here is that as soon as I saw the thread title, I didn't even have to look at who the OP was. I would have bet my fucking house on it.cincybearcat said:Awesome. Girl loses her life, someone posts about it and some of you only want to attack the poster. Sheesh, y’all are fucked up.
Had this been a white white guy that shot her, we’d still have a thread.
Zero shot. Nilch. Nada. Zip.
This literally happens every day in a country of 300 million, show me the threads backing up your theory. Nobody on here would know Mollie is if it wasnt an undocumented immigrant
Citizenship status doesn't have any impact on whether someone will commit murder or not
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Meltdown99 said:It's an important story. The man entered the US illegally, killing a US citizen. Why wouldn't that be a story? He is not the first illegal to murder...what's wrong with people wanting immigration reform?While this may seem rude, the story of this woman being killed is not an important story atleast not a national story. I can see it being a local story. Fox news made it a national story.also, there is nothing wrong with people wanting true immigration reform, the problem is what some people including this president means when they say they want Immigration reform.0
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white house is using this as political fuel. Released a video just now."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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ofcourse they are, just like fox is. makes you wonder if the victim wasn't white would this even be a story.Spiritual_Chaos said:white house is using this as political fuel. Released a video just now.
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